The US and Japan: the Two Fiction Giants

[Guardian of the Rain]

It's so weird to me that the US and Japan alone entertain the world.

I can't even imagine what it'd be like if I were born in another country, growing up mostly watching TV shows and movies from another country.

Yeah, England should be proud of the likes of Doctor Who, James Bond, Sherlock Holmes, Harry Potter, and the Lord of the Rings/the Hobbit. There's also BBC, but I can say for certain its shows aren't that popular in America.

But even those don't measure up to America's Disney, Marvel, DC, Hollywood, Microsoft/Xbox, etc. And Japan's anime and manga, Nintendo, Sony/PlayStation, Final Fantasy, etc.

China has blessed the world with some awesome martial arts flicks, but that's really it.

India has Bollywood. But the world definitely isn't crazy for it.

Why don't other big, first-world countries feel the need to compete against the US and Japan in fiction and entertainment?

Is it just because they're not as globalist as the US and Japan are?

 

[Ansatsuken]

You underestimate Hallyu or K-entertainment unintentionally.

And I think Japan is still far from to being tout as Global Entertainment powerhouse.

Only small percentage of world population follow Anime/Manga.

K-pop have more global followers than any Japanese music out there.

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

You underestimate Hallyu or K-entertainment unintentionally.

I don't mean to imply that other countries don't have their own fiction and entertainment. I'm just saying that they don't bother appealing to other countries.

I don't know what those things are, but they obviously don't have a big global audience like America's and Japan's fiction do. I know what K-pop is, and I think it's niche and could never be in mainstream pop culture in the US.

Not to sound too much like a douche, but I feel embarrassed for non-Americans and non-Japanese people because most of the fictional characters they're so fond of most likely didn't originate in their own country. American superheroes and Japanese anime/manga characters, for example.

 

[Lord Itachi Solos]

Italian food, german cars

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

Italian food, german cars

...wut? I'm only talking about fiction and entertainment.
If we're talking about food, then as patriotic as I am for America, I must say that Mexican, Italian, and Chinese food have American beaten badly lol
A burrito, pizza, or orange chicken over a burger or hot dog any day

 

[Joon]

Becuase US/Japen entertainment is obnoxious and degenerate that other countries will rather watch us than go down the same-- I mean we are ranked lowest in every thing.

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

Becuase US/Japen entertainment is obnoxious and degenerate that other countries will rather watch us than go down the same-- I mean we are ranked lowest in every thing.

The self-hatred in you is strong...
What's obnoxious and degenerate about Star Wars, Marvel, DC, The Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, Disney, Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, Star Trek, Game of Thrones, the Simpsons, and so on?

And those are just American. Japanese creations the world loves are Pokémon, Dragon Ball, Final Fantasy, Naruto, One Piece, Nintendo, Sony, Yu-Gi-Oh, Digimon

And yeah, the US sure is ranked low in "everything"...like...
The Olympics
Successful companies
Military might
Music industry
Cultural influence
Religious freedom and tolerance
Etc

 

[Joon]

The self-hatred in you is strong...
What's obnoxious and degenerate about Star Wars, Marvel, DC, The Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, Disney, Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, Star Trek, Game of Thrones, the Simpsons, and so on?

And those are just American. Japanese creations the world loves are Pokémon, Dragon Ball, Final Fantasy, Naruto, One Piece, Nintendo, Sony, Yu-Gi-Oh, Digimon

And yeah, the US sure is ranked low in "everything"...like...
The Olympics
Successful companies
Military might
Music industry
Cultural influence
Religious freedom and tolerance
Etc

I love my people, I hate my government.

You can't deny their is some truth about what I'm saying. Our entertainment is a tool to dumbdown Americans and distract them for what is important. I mean they want to cut education for god sakes.

 

[A Person]

It probably has to do with money and big entertainment corporations. Other countries did not create those opportunities for them to happen.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

It's so weird to me that the US and Japan alone entertain the world.

I can't even imagine what it'd be like if I were born in another country, growing up mostly watching TV shows and movies from another country.

Yeah, England should be proud of the likes of Doctor Who, James Bond, Sherlock Holmes, Harry Potter, and the Lord of the Rings/the Hobbit. There's also BBC, but I can say for certain its shows aren't that popular in America.

But even those don't measure up to America's Disney, Marvel, DC, Hollywood, Microsoft/Xbox, etc. And Japan's anime and manga, Nintendo, Sony/PlayStation, Final Fantasy, etc.

China has blessed the world with some awesome martial arts flicks, but that's really it.

India has Bollywood. But the world definitely isn't crazy for it.

Why don't other big, first-world countries feel the need to compete against the US and Japan in fiction and entertainment?

Is it just because they're not as globalist as the US and Japan are?

You wouldnt have to worry about that because we too are also watching US and Japan piece of work

 

[Queen of Bananas]

yes. they are giant.

I can be a slight air head sometimes

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

I love my people, I hate my government.

You can't deny their is some truth about what I'm saying. Our entertainment is a tool to dumbdown Americans and distract them for what is important. I mean they want to cut education for god sakes.

Hmmm. I honestly don't know enough about the actions and intentions of our government to have an opinion on the matter.
If it's just our government you hate, then fine.

It probably has to do with money and big entertainment corporations. Other countries did not create those opportunities for them to happen.

Yeah, probably. Everything's about money.
I just feel like every big country should contribute inspiring fictional stories and characters to the world.

 

[chopstickchakra]

You underestimate Hallyu or K-entertainment unintentionally.

And I think Japan is still far from to being tout as Global Entertainment powerhouse.

Only small percentage of world population follow Anime/Manga.

K-pop have more global followers than any Japanese music out there.

You think Japanese entertainment is limited to anime & manga? Kung fu movies, ninja legends, gaming systems,

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Yeah, most people in Europe can't even escape learning English because of the entertainment the U.S exports.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Yeah, most people in Europe can't even escape learning English because of the entertainment the U.S exports.

You say that like it's a bad thing though. I'd love to have had a show to watch as a child that taught and encouraged me to learn another language.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

You say that like it's a bad thing though. I'd love to have had a show to watch as a child that taught and encouraged me to learn another language.

True but I'm just using it as proof of how powerful an influence the U.S has on other countries in regards to entertainment.

 

[shelke]

You mean quality fiction or just the regular uninspiring trash on TV? If it's the former, then no. If it's the latter, then yes.

 

[Ansatsuken]

You think Japanese entertainment is limited to anime & manga? Kung fu movies, ninja legends, gaming systems,

I'm not limiting anything there, if that what it sounds like it should be OP himself. Read his thread and he limit Japan to anime and manga.

My points are accordance to OP's thread points.

When he pointed out about Japan entertainment and what makes them a giant in the world, he only pointed to anime/manga. I says it a wrong way to judge Japanese entertainment influence into the world.

I bring Music there for a comparison, meant I know what I'm talking about. As far Asian Music is concern, K-pop is global phenomena if it not that huge in the west part of the world(mainly US/Canada), it huge in Asia and to a lesser extent Europe. From my observation Japanese Music not so.

Do you even enjoying Japanese Drama or Film or have a chance of seeing Japanese drama advertisements airing on Your TV program? It's hard to see such advertisement even in my Asian part of TV program but K-drama/film are abundance and quite renown/popular here.

 

[Tarkatower]

they dont

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

You forgot to mention UK's Downtown Abbey