[Discussion] Questions for theists

[Our Lord Sasuke]

1. We all know right now, thanks to the efforts of scientists, that the our universe has a beginning and also it has a end. The universe it's also finite, because space and time are connected, anyway.. the questions is..
If the God is really omnipotent and have a infinite power, that mean the universe is insignificant and irrelevant, because God doesn't have a beginning, he is infinite, this is a nonsens that God created something for a short period of time.

2. What God he was doing before to create the universe?

3. Why he choose just Earth as the „chosen people” and his kingdoom, and left there a huge universe?

 

[Sagebee]

I'm confused on what your point is about GOD creating the universe finite, in business there's the concept built in obsolescence which means you purposefully create something to end. In business that's done to force the consumer to buy new products

 

[Kanino]

I'm really confuse about what I'm reading here, Le speaky el ingles cabron ?

 

[Mori Jin]

1. Ask him when you die if you meet.

2. He didn't choose it he made it then created humans. There might be other living beings across the universe, what/where they are is not for you to know.

 

[Deadlift]

Please clarify question 1 because I don't know if I understood it

2) God transcends time, so He doesn't have to wait.

3) there may well be life on other planets. Anyway, to use this as an argument you would need to justify why God wouldn't have created such a big universe if we were its only inhabitants.

By the way, all you are doing is presenting an argument from personal incredulity, which is rather dishonest

 

[Alien X]

No one in this planet has confirmed that this universe is a finite space-time. Your threads are just......pointless

 

[Umari Senju]

No one in this planet has confirmed that this universe is a finite space-time. Your threads are just......pointless

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Isn't space constantly expanding at an infinite rate? I'm no astrophysicist but I heard something about this on Nova I believe

 

[Alien X]

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Isn't space constantly expanding at an infinite rate? I'm not astrophysicist but I heard something about this on Nova I believe

The symbol infinite is actually a headache for astrophysics, especially regarding them because in physics you cannot deal with uncertainty.

 

[Marin]

1. We all know right now, thanks to the efforts of scientists, that the our universe has a beginning and also it has a end. The universe it's also finite, because space and time are connected, anyway.. the questions is..
If the God is really omnipotent and have a infinite power, that mean the universe is insignificant and irrelevant, because God doesn't have a beginning, he is infinite, this is a nonsens that God created something for a short period of time.

2. What God he was doing before to create the universe?

3. Why he choose just Earth as the „chosen people” and his kingdoom, and left there a huge universe?

1) I honestly don't see what you're asking here? Why do you think it is nonsense for God to create something that only last for a finite time? I don't think God is obligated to make all creation eternal.

2) This only makes sense if you consider God being in time, but since time is inseparable from space as every cosmologist (including your dear Krauss) thinks, it is a part of the universe. God created the universe so it follows logically that God created time as well. As such God exists beyond our universe in a state of affairs unaffected by both space and time which is utterly inconcievable by us.

3) Why do you think he "chose"? God might as well have flipped a coin and let the universe run its course, inevitably having one planet suitable for life. This planet just so happened to be earth. Also, this world is nowhere near His kingdom (and by this I believe you're reffering to the Abrahamic God as seen in Judaism, Christianity and Islam). I believe God's kingdom to be on a realm beyond this universe - one that is atemporal and spaceless. A transcendent kingdom so to speak.

Do you mind if I ask why you made this thread? Just curious since you said before that you're not interested in this discussion. ^^

 

[Made in Heaven]

1.
If the God is really omnipotent and have a infinite power, that mean the universe is insignificant and irrelevant, because God doesn't have a beginning, he is infinite, this is a nonsens that God created something for a short period of time.

How is it nonsense to create a finite creation when God is eternal? I don't get how these two aspects would be considered nonsense?

2. What God he was doing before to create the universe?

This question only exists because you're applying "Time" to God. God is above all of his creations, including time. If he was under the laws of time, he would be inferior to his own creation, which doesn't make sense at all.

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3. Why he choose just Earth as the „chosen people” and his kingdoom, and left there a huge universe?

I'm certain not a single religion denies the existence of aliens. In fact, Islam somewhat hints at when God says that he "has preferred humanity over most of creations", meaning there would be other creations superior to us. But given that we will almost certainly never run into aliens, it's irrelevant imo.

 

[chopstickchakra]

The symbol infinite is actually a headache for astrophysics, especially regarding them because in physics you cannot deal with uncertainty.

Isn't theoretical physics uncertainties?

 

[Alien X]

Isn't theoretical physics uncertainties?

i meant that astrophysics are trying to figure out the complexity of nature in ways that doesnt give them a immense headache, though that is rather meaningless since the universe is more than just imagination.

 

[Frois]

Seems like you were just throwing chum in the water with this thread in hopes of getting an extremist to argue with.

 

[Queen of Bananas]

oh man, God knows *sighs conspicuously*

 

[Azuline]

Why is the universe suddenly irrelevant?

 

[Punk Hazard]

I'm confused on what your point is about GOD creating the universe finite, in business there's the concept built in obsolescence which means you purposefully create something to end. In business that's done to force the consumer to buy new products

So you think God is selling products to...something?

 

[Mensa]

1. We all know right now, thanks to the efforts of scientists, that the our universe has a beginning and also it has a end. The universe it's also finite, because space and time are connected

A spacetime continuum, yes, but that itself and scientists have not come to a conclusion that the universe is finite. For now all that they can work with is called the observable universe.

anyway.. the questions is..
If the God is really omnipotent and have a infinite power, that mean the universe is insignificant and irrelevant

Not really. If you believe in God then you should know that he doesn't do things especially create a universe without a reason.

Because God doesn't have a beginning, he is infinite, this is a nonsens that God created something for a short period of time.

How can you believe in God and at the same time call his creation nonsense? And how would you know that this universe is for a short period of time? Science doesn't say so, so where did you get that from?

2. What God he was doing before to create the universe?

That is knowledge that belongs only to him.

3. Why he choose just Earth as the „chosen people” and his kingdoom, and left there a huge universe?

Yet again, that is knowledge that belongs only to him.

 

[Osmon]

1. We all know right now, thanks to the efforts of scientists, that the our universe has a beginning and also it has a end. The universe it's also finite, because space and time are connected, anyway.. the questions is..
If the God is really omnipotent and have a infinite power, that mean the universe is insignificant and irrelevant, because God doesn't have a beginning, he is infinite, this is a nonsens that God created something for a short period of time.

2. What God he was doing before to create the universe?

3. Why he choose just Earth as the „chosen people” and his kingdoom, and left there a huge universe?

so wait, you asking all this in an anime forum? wew homie you dummmmmb

 

[Punk Hazard]

so wait, you asking all this in an anime forum? wew homie you dummmmmb

Right cuz anime forum users aren't real people with knowledge in things outside of ani-man getcho dumbass outta here

 

[The Work]

Maybe God's mind and actions are something far too complex a human mind can comprehend.