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Who will surpass Sasuke and Naruto (if Kishi decides to make a character or characters do so)?

Naruto would be the easiest to surpass, I mean his powers come from the beasts
(**** anyone that disagrees ***** you know it's true)

It's already kind of foreshadowed to be dead "seemingly" so Kishi might have already started the process.

Without the beasts sure he has the title child of prophecy and sage mode under his belt, but without the beasts I believe there will be more impossible bs added to sage mode to make him as strong as his BM/BSM

Sasuke would be the hardest because of rinnegan, you can't simply take rinnegan like you can take the beasts.
(Also I fully believe sasuke is stronger than adult naruto it's already been stated)

He has the ability to master everything plus his susanoo and regular eye abilities but the rinnegan abilities are hard to deal with
(anyone who disagrees madara, kaguya, obito, and nagato says hi)

It's possible, but the enemy would have to be stronger than both them plus kaguya combined.

So who?

Orochimaru (always a window for him)
Kawahi - first candidate
Bolt (too cliche but that's shounen for you and doesn't necessary have to be an enemy)
Mitsuki (My personal favorite... this man has sage mode and naruto's cloak shit stuff)

 

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The enemy wont need to be stronger than Kaguya and SasuNaru combine. Kaguya still far above Momo+Sasu+Naru combine together.

The enemy can be as strong as non JJ Hagoromo is enugh to go toe to toe with SasuNaru. Thus who want to surpass Sasuke or Naruto should obtain power 50% lower than Hagoromo.
 

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It was said to be Bolt already.
 

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Kawaki will surpass (and kill) Naruto. Sasuke will save the world.
 

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Himawari is already on the path.
 

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It was said to be Bolt already.

But Kishi already made Bolt trash.

Look at this shit

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Not only am I not a fan of his design, but he has no stripes as to why we as a fanbase should accept him as a superior up an coming character.

IDC about the movie and he wasn't even in the gaiden to earn stripes then, I'm sorry, no.

If they were to build up the story like it did naruto, sasuke, and sakura from being crappy annoying son through the exams, friends, jutsu, learning, etc etc up to the kawaki part then yes.

I have no attachments to Bolt and if you do then you're accepting bad writing and character development.
Mitsuki is only my favorite because he has a drive... he was created and has a purpose. Bolt is a spoiled nobody who has a super strong dad... playing the konohmaru role.
 

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And I think no one can surpass either of them without huge power up. The only known super boost is Hagoromo. I doubt the tatoo is as strong as real unrestricted Six Path power up. Destroying a city doesnt mean Kawaki is level with Naruto or Sasuke bcus we already saw Pain can level Konoha easily without huge power up and Tailed Beast regularly do so.

Power hold by current NaruSasu surpassed that. Their level are country if not continent. Kawaki just City level.
 

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But Kishi already made Bolt trash.

Look at this shit

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Really? He looks good to me.

I remember you saying this garbage before and people were calling you out. Mitsuki in Sage Mode looks just as foolish and yet... :lo;

Not only am I not a fan of his design, but he has no stripes as to why we as a fanbase should accept him as a superior up an coming character.
Kind of ironic that a fan of Mitsuki is having trouble figuring out these question when in the movie Mitsuki is the one who praises him the most.

I-R-O-N-Y.



IDC about the movie and he wasn't even in the gaiden to earn stripes then, I'm sorry, no.
I don't really care about your opinion though. I'm sorry if you feel a certain way about it, but facts are facts.

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You're just setting yourself up for failure.

I have no attachments to Bolt and if you do then you're accepting bad writing and character development.
Mitsuki is only my favorite because he has a drive... he was created and has a purpose. Bolt is a spoiled nobody who has a super strong dad... playing the konohmaru role.
Yeah I mean no wonder you don't. You probably have no understanding of his character in the first place, but I'm pretty happy about that because the less twists the better.

Boruto is my favorite because he has a drive that has nothing to do with searching for his sun, aka Boruto. Boruto does what he wants, when he wants.

At the end of the Movie Bolt said he wanted to follow in the same paths as his Master, Sasuke. I guess Mitsuki will continue to be his cheerleader like in the Movie.
 
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Boruto kawakii and top members of okutsuki will surpass them
 

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Nah, Sasuke would in fact be the easier of the two to kill. His power stems from Itachi's eyes and Hago's gift to him. (The rinnegan). Without it, what's left? Yeah, a blind Sasuke.

For Naruto to die, they'd have to come up with something even more ridiculous than what happened with Madara and BZ coupled with major asspulls.

So far Naruto hasn't used his strongest form on anyone since Vote 2, even then he only fought to match not to kill.

And no, Sasuke hasn't been stated to be stronger. I mean the guy admitted inferiority twice, don't you think it's time to accept this fact. If anything he can probably tango with RBSM Naruto, but that's it.

Also where did you get the idea that he can master everything? He can't master or learn KKG.

In any case, there already is someone stronger, The Sunflower Goddess Himawari.
 

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Really? He looks good to me.

I remember you saying this garbage before and people were calling you out. Mitsuki in Sage Mode looks just as foolish and yet... :lo;


Kind of ironic that a fan of Mitsuki is having trouble figuring out these question when in the movie Mitsuki is the one who praises him the most.

I-R-O-N-Y.




I don't really care about your opinion though. I'm sorry if you feel a certain way about it, but facts are facts.

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You're just setting yourself up for failure.


Yeah I mean no wonder you don't. You probably have no understanding of his character in the first place, but I'm pretty happy about that because the less twists the better.

Boruto is my favorite because he has a drive that has nothing to do with searching for his sun, aka Boruto. Boruto does what he wants, when he wants.

At the end of the Movie Bolt said he wanted to follow in the same paths as his Master, Sasuke. I guess Mitsuki will continue to be his cheerleader like in the Movie.

No one calls me out without it getting answered boi and I admit the horn is retarded but being made and born by orochimaru isn't a stretch.

Bolt looks retarded. He's looks like a pretend ninja.

Never said I was a fan of him don't put words in my mouth.

Never said you did, I clearly said Idc about the movie indra... word play doesn't work try again sir :sdo:

No understanding of his character XD he's the most cliche bro.. did you just try and pull that ... on me :lmao:

Is he really a cheerleader if Bolt is suppose to be sasuke ish and mitsuki acknowledges him like orochimaru did sasuke :sdo:
Idc if he is or not, he's just a candidate with better qualities than Bolt.

And he's not tough or hard.. he's a softy who wants to be just like Naruto... and I don't understand his character lmao.
 

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No one calls me out without it getting answered boi and I admit the horn is retarded but being made and born by orochimaru isn't a stretch.

Bolt looks retarded. He's looks like a pretend ninja.

Never said I was a fan of him don't put words in my mouth.
I don't remember the thread but there wasn't a response back, I'm pretty sure lol.

I honestly don't know man. He looks like he was trained by Sauce-man, Idk how that rubs off 'pretend' ninja. But I personally thinks he looks pretty serious to me.

Tho the artist is brand new so you we gotta work with it for now.



Never said you did, I clearly said Idc about the movie indra... word play doesn't work try again sir :sdo:
Bruh how you gonna talk smack about his character but not care about the place where his development lies in? Like I get if you dont like it or what-ever. But you cant ignore the one thing he has a focus in.

That's like me ignoring the Mitsuki 1 shot entirely because 'idc'

No understanding of his character XD he's the most cliche bro.. did you just try and pull that ... on me :lmao:
Are you serious mate?

Did you really just call Boruto the most 'cliche'?

Name one main character who:

> Is a Genius/Prodigy, but does not train.
> Is lazy, to the point where the character would cheat instead of working hard/using one's own abilities.
> Whose goals is to support someone else instead of making a name for themselves.

Most cliche Shounen Protagonists are hard workers, Boruto despised hard work. Most protagonists aim to have this amazing goal (being the strongest, searching for something, being strong enough to protece veryone, etc.) -- All Boruto wants is to make his own path, not alike to his Grandfather/Father, and he wants to protec/support Sarada when she becomes Hokage.

I'm just touching a spec of it bro. Kishimoto made Boruto the Anti-Main Character in terms of traits.

Is he really a cheerleader if Bolt is suppose to be sasuke ish and mitsuki acknowledges him like orochimaru did sasuke :sdo:
Idc if he is or not, he's just a candidate with better qualities than Bolt.
The way I have seen it thus far, I enjoy Mitsuki by the way too, but right now Mitsuki searches for a purpose. He found that in Konohagakure, although Kishimoto hints his 'purpose' @ being Boruto's team mate/close friend/his "moon". But Boruto on he other-hand wasn't searching for a relationship like that.

It's kind of one sided, Mitsuki is following his own path, but he finds it in his close friends. They could take it too far, like how Naruto was thinking about Sasuke on his bedside, but it's hard to say.

Well, I would say you're right for now. Boruto's qualities were all over the place, but his goal at the end was something he would achieve later on.

You have to admit that post-Movie Boruto (the flash forward) was pretty calm in the face of the Village destroyed, and the fact that Kawaki said that he took down his father.

Even in the monologue older Boruto called his old self a 'brat' too. He's grown up, basically. A lot more than Naruto coming back from training with Jiraiya and still doing sexy-jutsu XD

And he's not tough or hard.. he's a softy who wants to be just like Naruto... and I don't understand his character lmao.
Message me then. If you're saying Boruto wants to be just like Naruto then you didn't grasp his character arc.

Ask me questions too. You'd be surprised how interesting his character is outside of his angst conflict with daddyruto.

At least I think so.
 
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And OP had the nerve to tell me he wasn't a Sasuke fan.
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Sorry but Naruto with RSM > Sasuke with Rinnegan by portrayal.
 

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I don't remember the thread but there wasn't a response back, I'm pretty sure lol.

I honestly don't know man. He looks like he was trained by Sauce-man, Idk how that rubs off 'pretend' ninja. But I personally thinks he looks pretty serious to me.

Tho the artist is brand new so you we gotta work with it for now.




Bruh how you gonna talk smack about his character but not care about the place where his development lies in? Like I get if you dont like it or what-ever. But you cant ignore the one thing he has a focus in.

That's like me ignoring the Mitsuki 1 shot entirely because 'idc'


Are you serious mate?

Did you really just call Boruto the most 'cliche'?

Name one main character who:

> Is a Genius/Prodigy, but does not train.
> Is lazy, to the point where the character would cheat instead of working hard/using one's own abilities.
> Whose goals is to support someone else instead of making a name for themselves.

Most cliche Shounen Protagonists are hard workers, Boruto despised hard work. Most protagonists aim to have this amazing goal (being the strongest, searching for something, being strong enough to protece veryone, etc.) -- All Boruto wants is to make his own path, not alike to his Grandfather/Father, and he wants to protec/support Sarada when she becomes Hokage.

I'm just touching a spec of it bro. Kishimoto made Boruto the Anti-Main Character in terms of traits.


The way I have seen it thus far, I enjoy Mitsuki by the way too, but right now Mitsuki searches for a purpose. He found that in Konohagakure, although Kishimoto hints his 'purpose' @ being Boruto's team mate/close friend/his "moon". But Boruto on he other-hand wasn't searching for a relationship like that.

It's kind of one sided, Mitsuki is following his own path, but he finds it in his close friends. They could take it too far, like how Naruto was thinking about Sasuke on his bedside, but it's hard to say.

Well, I would say you're right for now. Boruto's qualities were all over the place, but his goal at the end was something he would achieve later on.

You have to admit that post-Movie Boruto (the flash forward) was pretty calm in the face of the Village destroyed, and the fact that Kawaki said that he took down his father.

Even in the monologue older Boruto called his old self a 'brat' too. He's grown up, basically. A lot more than Naruto coming back from training with Jiraiya and still doing sexy-jutsu XD


Message me then. If you're saying Boruto wants to be just like Naruto then you didn't grasp his character arc.

Ask me questions too. You'd be surprised how interesting his character is outside of his angst conflict with daddyruto.

At least I think so.
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stopped reading at "naruto would be the easiest to surpass"...lmaooo

which is harder?...pulling out a a pair of eyes or extracting a TAILED BEAST?

also if naruto lost kurama he'd still have six paths senjutsu and kurama chakra mode (which he stole from kurama)
 

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I don't remember the thread but there wasn't a response back, I'm pretty sure lol.

I honestly don't know man. He looks like he was trained by Sauce-man, Idk how that rubs off 'pretend' ninja. But I personally thinks he looks pretty serious to me.

Tho the artist is brand new so you we gotta work with it for now.




Bruh how you gonna talk smack about his character but not care about the place where his development lies in? Like I get if you dont like it or what-ever. But you cant ignore the one thing he has a focus in.

That's like me ignoring the Mitsuki 1 shot entirely because 'idc'


Are you serious mate?

Did you really just call Boruto the most 'cliche'?

Name one main character who:

> Is a Genius/Prodigy, but does not train.
> Is lazy, to the point where the character would cheat instead of working hard/using one's own abilities.
> Whose goals is to support someone else instead of making a name for themselves.

Most cliche Shounen Protagonists are hard workers, Boruto despised hard work. Most protagonists aim to have this amazing goal (being the strongest, searching for something, being strong enough to protece veryone, etc.) -- All Boruto wants is to make his own path, not alike to his Grandfather/Father, and he wants to protec/support Sarada when she becomes Hokage.

I'm just touching a spec of it bro. Kishimoto made Boruto the Anti-Main Character in terms of traits.


The way I have seen it thus far, I enjoy Mitsuki by the way too, but right now Mitsuki searches for a purpose. He found that in Konohagakure, although Kishimoto hints his 'purpose' @ being Boruto's team mate/close friend/his "moon". But Boruto on he other-hand wasn't searching for a relationship like that.

It's kind of one sided, Mitsuki is following his own path, but he finds it in his close friends. They could take it too far, like how Naruto was thinking about Sasuke on his bedside, but it's hard to say.

Well, I would say you're right for now. Boruto's qualities were all over the place, but his goal at the end was something he would achieve later on.

You have to admit that post-Movie Boruto (the flash forward) was pretty calm in the face of the Village destroyed, and the fact that Kawaki said that he took down his father.

Even in the monologue older Boruto called his old self a 'brat' too. He's grown up, basically. A lot more than Naruto coming back from training with Jiraiya and still doing sexy-jutsu XD


Message me then. If you're saying Boruto wants to be just like Naruto then you didn't grasp his character arc.

Ask me questions too. You'd be surprised how interesting his character is outside of his angst conflict with daddyruto.

At least I think so.

Jesus dude usually I'm lazy and could careless but fook it.

Sorry I don't catch every little response ... only can be interested so much these days.

Blah, can't be serious with the go **** it attitude 24/7 .. sasuke had that too and neji but they were still serious to the core.

Just because Idc about his character doesn't mean I ignore him. I still accept what Kishi writes, but to determine weather it's bs or not is totally up to us as the audience right or wrong.

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The rest of that is more informational.

But I will ask questions and such because at the very beginning I was hyped for his character like everybody else. Then I started thinking "yeah people will like him a little bit but not like that." "Bolt has earned zero stripes"

Naruto and Sasuke earned their stripes.

Honestly the one thing I can agree on is that it's still kind of too early to judge, but come on dude it's a shounen so I doubt that he will change.

And Kirito:

He cheated.
Didn't train.
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They're both long time characters who we have grown along side really. Boruto just seems like a brat in comparison.
 
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