Naruto's prophecy is a failure

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Hah. Do not make me laugh. Such power would corrupt him in one year. There would be revolution against him because many people would rather die then live under oppression. If there was such easy method for peace we would already had it here. Society evolve everyday and people little by little realize that war is terrible. You cannot force it, it would only made it worse. With grow of technology people will slowly throw away religion and states will stop being important. Because when they realize how ****ing big is universe and how small they are things like war will stop making sense. So Naruto is doing it right. Try to show people that there is better way, that trying for betterment of mankind is everyones job.

As I said Sasuke has the power to stop all revolutions made by people,because they cannot cast him away.If people would rather die than leave in Sasuke's era,then so be it.That's why Sasuke wanted to kill the fodders of the 'will of fire' cause he knew they are far dedicated to talk no jutsu methods and no real promises of peace.

In the end Sasuke can control this system.Sasuke thinks a life controlled by fear is far better than a life with the risk of betrayal of your fellow comrades,which makes sense.If you want to destroy the system,you should die.

In this case,the shinobies are far better people if all of them are in the same boat,even if the boat is sinking.At least they cooperate,and that's what Sasuke truly wants.PEACE
 

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As I said Sasuke has the power to stop all revolutions made by people,because they cannot cast him away.If people would rather die than leave in Sasuke's era,then so be it.That's why Sasuke wanted to kill the fodders of the 'will of fire' cause he knew they are far dedicated to talk no jutsu methods and no real promises of peace.

In the end Sasuke can control this system.Sasuke thinks a life controlled by fear is far better than a life with the risk of betrayal of your fellow comrades,which makes sense.If you want to destroy the system,you should die.

In this case,the shinobies are far better people if all of them are in the same boat,even if the boat is sinking.At least they cooperate,and that's what Sasuke truly wants.PEACE

Lol, You make Sasuke sound like god. He will make mistakes and it will be paid in blood. And if he will kill so many people society will collapse and Sasuke can be king of ashes.
Society based on fear will never work. Communism fall because of that.
 

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Naruto is still hokage and kawaki destroying everything isn't the last page of the manga
The story isn't over yet
 

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He embraced Will of Fire and basically showed everyone that you should lie your way to the seat, make tons of promises. And extreme fascism is so cool, the dark side of totalitarianism is awesome, mindless slaughter is totally okay as long as the government does it, otherwise, it's evil yo! Killing children and civilians is the way into the future as long as the rest can be saved, the people you hire for terrorism are evil, the ones offering them funds are just innocent victims of the military systems and if these Nations' waged wars leave orphans behind? Then **** them! The Nations should send in more ninjas to destabilize their governments. And if they fight back? Shit, man, that's so evil, messed up and so ... so evil! They should be obliterated, their ideologies extinguished so that this form of governmental setup can thrive!

If anyone is victimized by the system, they should never seek justice. In fact, those ****ers should be weeded out, slaughtered and dealt with. Oh yeah, and, there is no need to fix the Hyuga issue, reduce Shinobi numbers, introduce better laws to safeguard everyone's rights and there is abolutely no need to aid poor villages like Rain who were rent asunder for Konoha's ambitions. That is the kind of Hokage Naruto is.

Honestly it isn't really fair to blame naruto on this one. it's kishi's fault. the fact he more or less made naruto not change anything at all but didn't think without any long term logic that future of kages might once represent what created villains in the first place is personally a slap to nagato's, sasuke's, neji's, hinata's and in some ways gaara's face. but then again it's to be expected from kishi. What he should had done was keep naruto's ideals the same but factor in sasuke's realism as well. by removing the kages from empowerment not keep shit the same.

OP: good. that joke prophecy hurt the manga than helped.
 
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Lol, You make Sasuke sound like god. He will make mistakes and it will be paid in blood. And if he will kill so many people society will collapse and Sasuke can be king of ashes.
Society based on fear will never work. Communism fall because of that.

Actually Kurama said that Sasuke with the rinnegan and the bijuus is equal to Rikudou,so yeah he is a god.If he is a god he can show people the true world in which they need to live and guide them to a peaceful era.

He can do that.There are lots of possibilites:rinnegan,torture,executions etc.People may revolt but they won't persist in it if it ends up killing them.They are not suicidal lol.
 

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Actually Kurama said that Sasuke with the rinnegan and the bijuus is equal to Rikudou,so yeah he is a god.If he is a god he can show people the true world in which they need to live and guide them to a peaceful era.

He can do that.There are lots of possibilites:rinnegan,torture,executions etc.People may revolt but they won't persist in it if it ends up killing them.They are not suicidal lol.

You have weird idea about peace. Also being god is not only about power. Sasuke would fall as he already shown that he can. Look at Warhammer 40k. Imperium of men rule exactly as you said Sasuke should. And its crumbling like ****ing shitty cookie.
 

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That article about autism being linked to manga readers was right.
 

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You have weird idea about peace. Also being god is not only about power. Sasuke would fall as he already shown that he can. Look at Warhammer 40k. Imperium of men rule exactly as you said Sasuke should. And its crumbling like ****ing shitty cookie.

I didn't come up with that,I just quoted what Sasuke said he'll do after he kills Naruto lol.

I don't know how Sasuke's empire can crumble,if he can control his people via Rinnegan and his other powers.Yea I am saying he can force them to accept the system via manipulation or whatever,as long as it works.

He will do whatever it's necessary to make things work.

And by the way,did you bring up a video game about empires?Lol
 

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Naruto succeeded. Deal with it.

He not only saved the entire SW, he brought the 5 great nations together and united them.


In short Naruto succeeded in all of the things he set forth, he is definitely not a failure.

You bring up Kawaki, but he doesn’t describe/associate himself as a Shinobi/Ninja. Which means he has no affect to Naruto’s way. Same goes for Ootsutsuki’s.

Until I’m proven otherwise, Kawaki remains a fodder with no hope of ever even putting up a decent fight against Naruto. Maybe if he’s in base, but that’s it.

Sasuke’s way was unrealistic and would fall apart fairly quickly. If he had his way, the world would have a dystopian future.

Naruto’s prophecy remains successful. You guys can cry all you want, but it won’t change a thing.

Nice try. :win:
 

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I didn't come up with that,I just quoted what Sasuke said he'll do after he kills Naruto lol.

I don't know how Sasuke's empire can crumble,if he can control his people via Rinnegan and his other powers.Yea I am saying he can force them to accept the system via manipulation or whatever,as long as it works.

He will do whatever it's necessary to make things work.

And by the way,did you bring up a video game about empires?Lol

He can stand on his head but unless people will work with him it will fall. Country is made from people not from one man.

Also Warhammer is table game with such great lore that it makes Naruto manga look like shit.
 

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Naruto succeeded. Deal with it.

He not only saved the entire SW, he brought the 5 great nations together and united them.


In short Naruto succeeded in all of the things he set forth, he is definitely not a failure.

You bring up Kawaki, but he doesn’t describe/associate himself as a Shinobi/Ninja. Which means he has no affect to Naruto’s way. Same goes for Ootsutsuki’s.

Until I’m proven otherwise, Kawaki remains a fodder with no hope of ever even putting up a decent fight against Naruto. Maybe if he’s in base, but that’s it.

Sasuke’s way was unrealistic and would fall apart fairly quickly. If he had his way, the world would have a dystopian future.

Naruto’s prophecy remains successful. You guys can cry all you want, but it won’t change a thing.

Nice try. :win:

Seems like the denial is too strong.You obviously didn't read anything that was discussed here so you can understand why Naruto is a failure in terms of organising a system.

One of the reason is Kawaki,which seems to have negged Naruto after saying"I shall send you to the 7th hokage".So yea Naruto is also a fodder and your argument is invalid.

Ofcourse you would Sasuke's way is unrealistic when he explained all of it in full details that make his ideas realistical.But yea you are narutard and will deny this.Better believe in Naruto that lies to his people that he achieved peace in the world.

Kawaki destrying the village is Naruto's peace version right?Oh well,go on.
 

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He did all that so Kawaki can destroy all he stands for

The prophecy said nothing about "eternal" peace or ending all wars and hatred once and for all. What it DID predict was that Naruto would bring the world together and save it...and he did.

Stop nitpicking. Sasuke's way wouldn't have worked either. Kawaki would have just come for him insfead of Naruto now wouldn't he:bdpf:
 

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He can stand on his head but unless people will work with him it will fall. Country is made from people not from one man.

Also Warhammer is table game with such great lore that it makes Naruto manga look like shit.

What part of controlling the people didn't you get?

He'll manipulate them via genjutsu and make things work.It's like he's making moves in a chess game.

How can a system fall if its people are controlled?
 

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What part of controlling the people didn't you get?

He'll manipulate them via genjutsu and make things work.It's like he's making moves in a chess game.

How can a system fall if its people are controlled?

I see I cannot change fact that you are so submissive that you need to have someone tell you what to do. Really so many people died fighting for freedom and you would throw it away for some ***ot ? After all if it is so great as you said you would be able to live there. In place where there is no free will, no emotion because they are dangerous. Ah wait, that is what machine does. Why the **** would someone wanted such life is beyond me.
 

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When you fap too hard you spray it everywhere and this is the type of nonsense you get. Stop fapping OP :lmao:
 

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What part of controlling the people didn't you get?

He'll manipulate them via genjutsu and make things work.It's like he's making moves in a chess game.

How can a system fall if its people are controlled?


You should watch the Matrix. Sooner or later, natural selection will take its place. Someone will be born immune to his illusions and this "world order" crumbles
 
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