Naruto's prophecy is a failure

[LordRaikage]

I don't care for Itachi nor Sasuke at this point. Lord Guts is my new light

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this is what happens when sasuke-fapboys discover the masterpiece called "berserk".

 

[shelke]

...Didn't Sasuke want to rule the entire world with extreme Fascism?

That is more along the lines of culture of fear than pure Fascism.

 

[Оdin]

The image with the village in dust and Kawaki saying "I'll send you to the 7th hokage" speaks for itself

If Naruto failed then Sasuke failed even harder seeing as how the latter admitted that the village would be done for if Naruto died. You can keep reaching, but you're just gonna keep on grabbing the same lackluster shit as before.

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[Kiro man]

Yes, because villages are fighting so many wars between them now, Oh wait! They dont. Its like post war Europe. Everyone is so ****ing tired of wars that people will try hardest for peace. Fact that some outsider like Russia decided that Ukraine is pie and Russia can eat little does not mean that people in Europe are responsible for it. Like people from Shinobi system are not responsible for Kawaki who is from other sect. Ninjas are at peace between themselves.

Lol Kawaki is a ninja who wants to put an end to the ninja world like Madara.He is no exception,just another enemy.

 

[patrickscott]

This is obvious. The only people not accepting this reality are the die hard Naruto faps. They know who they are. I don't have the time to name them.

 

[Booker]

That is more along the lines of culture of fear than pure Fascism.

A culture of fear based on "Step out of line or do anything I dislike and I kill you" is extreme Fascism lol.

 

[VVolfVVarrior]

That is more along the lines of culture of fear than pure Fascism.

That would be shitty. People would be scared and mass hysteria would erupt. Progress would stop and when progress stop decay will came. Hell in the end people would become barbarians again.
Best would be combine Naruto and Sasuke ideas together. Have nice image but be prepared to response with force.

 

[LordRaikage]

If Naruto failed then Sasuke failed even harder seeing as how the latter admitted that the village would be done for if Naruto died. You can keep reaching, but you're just gonna keep on grabbing the same lackluster shit as before.

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damn soloing people .......... left and right

 

[VVolfVVarrior]

Lol Kawaki is a ninja who wants to put an end to the ninja world like Madara.He is no exception,just another enemy.

How can Kawaki be ninja when he wants to end Ninjas ? Kawaki wants to kill himself ?

 

[shelke]

A culture of fear based on "Step out of line or do anything I dislike and I kill you" is extreme Fascism lol.

Actually fascism is concerned with exalting Nation above an individual at its crux. You are only looking at one facet of it. It is nothing more than radical nationalism, whereas Sasuke was eliminating the very concept of Nation.

That would be shitty. People would be scared and mass hysteria would erupt. Progress would stop and when progress stop decay will came. Hell in the end people would become barbarians again.
Best would be combine Naruto and Sasuke ideas together. Have nice image but be prepared to response with force.

In whose opinion? No really.

 

[Kiro man]

How can Kawaki be ninja when he wants to end Ninjas ? Kawaki wants to kill himself ?

Did Madara want to kill himself when he casted IT to end the ninja system?Nothing changes the fact that Kawaki has Madara's goal.

 

[Ricardo]

this is what happens when sasuke-fapboys discover the masterpiece called "berserk".

Please, don't put me on the same level as mainstream anime/manga plebs. I already had berserk in my plan to watch/read list a long time ago but never had the initiative to start the series. It took a lot of influences from a lot of people to start this series.

 

[Booker]

Actually fascism is concerned with exalting Nation above an individual at its crux. You are only looking at one facet of it. It is nothing more than radical nationalism, whereas Sasuke was eliminating the very concept of Nation.



In whose opinion? No really.

Not really, no.

Sasuke becomes the Nation. The individual doesn't matter, because it's what Sasuke thinks that matters. That is Fascism.

 

[Kiro man]

If Naruto failed then Sasuke failed even harder seeing as how the latter admitted that the village would be done for if Naruto died. You can keep reaching, but you're just gonna keep on grabbing the same lackluster shit as before.

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He admitted this after he lost the fight and had to go with Naruto's ideology that EVERYONE ELSE WAS SUPPORTING.Pretty hard to have your way if you lost it at the final moment right?

 

[VVolfVVarrior]

Did Madara want to kill himself when he casted IT to end the ninja system?Nothing changes the fact that Kawaki has Madara's goal.

Madara wanted save everyone. IT was supposed to bring peace. He never said that wants to kill everyone.

 

[Kiro man]

Not really, no.

Sasuke becomes the Nation. The individual doesn't matter, because it's what Sasuke thinks that matters. That is Fascism.

Call it whatever you like,Sasuke's method sounds better than serving false hope to the people like Naruto.

 

[Booker]

Call it whatever you like,Sasuke's method sounds better than serving false hope to the people like Naruto.

Uh, no. Killing people who disagree with you is not the correct answer for peace, because killing people who disagree with you is morally wrong.

 

[shelke]

Not really, no.

Sasuke becomes the Nation. The individual doesn't matter, because it's what Sasuke thinks that matters. That is Fascism.

Uh huh, you mean a system that is built on capitalist elites, is considered an assault on the working class, promotes a lot of exaltation of nationalism is somehow similar to what Sasuke did? I am pretty sure I can get more if I can jog my memory.

@Bold Yeah, no.

 

[Kiro man]

Madara wanted save everyone. IT was supposed to bring peace. He never said that wants to kill everyone.

No not really.The fact that Madara thought keeping people trapped in an infinite genjutsu saves the world makes him alone.He actually put an end to the world with that.And Kawaki probably wants to do the same by killing everyone.

What's the difference?At the end in both scenarios the world has ended.Both of them are villains

 

[Kiro man]

Uh, no. Killing people who disagree with you is not the correct answer for peace, because killing people who disagree with you is morally wrong.

Were Itachi and Danzo morally wrong when they decided to kill the Uchiha clan to save the village?No.It is a painful truth,but this act saved the village.

You do whatever it takes to achieve peace,even if it ends up killing people.