Top 5 characters in Dojutsu power™

[Zawerni]

I find it interesting people are claiming Sasuke's Rinnegan is stronger than Hagoromo's when we have no idea what Hagoromo's eyes were capable of.

The only thing we know about it is it's Kekkei Mora, which is a higher classification than Sasuke's Kekkei Genkai Rinnegan.

 

[Ziltoid]

Frankly, I think that Sasuke barely did enough to show that his abilities with his dojutsu make him any more impressive than the likes of Obito, Itachi, or Pein/Nagato. Sasuke himself is far stronger, naturally, but what did Sasuke do with his dojutsu that is so much better than the others? The only real thing that would put him ahead of the others was how he subdued, merged, and used eight-and-a-half bijuu. Sadly, this happened in a stage of the manga where megazoids were standard, so... well, relatively speaking I still find what Obito, Itachi, or Nagato did more impressive.

 

[God Of NarutoBase]

I don't know how you're quantifying Hagoromo's Rinnegan's power. His Rinnegan usage is dependent on the amount of chakra he can expend in his techniques. He wouldn't be able to do everything he could as a Ten-Tails host, and his Rinnegan by itself isn't any more powerful than Sasuke's or Madara's. Basing Sasuke's skill with the Rinnegan on his one fight with Naruto is pretty retarded considering how much he has aged and that you're only assuming Hagoromo's skill with the eye despite him having absolutely no (maybe one) feats with it. Yes though, combining the chakra had to do with the Rinnegan since it's not normally possible to do so. Also consider that he has an eye technique that Hagoromo does not: the Sharingan, which is why I considered him to be higher on the list.

So can you pls tell me what he did with his rinnegan against shin and momoshiki and kinshiki? Hagoromo is the only one who mastered the rinnegan. without the juubi he was already as strong as a juubi jin,and he created the six paths sun and moon seals.
The only useful thing sasuke sharingan is susanoo and genjutsu. Having those two aren't enough to makes his eyes stronger than hags.

 

[Guitar Hero]

Hamura is featless.

 

[Holy God]

So can you pls tell me what he did with his rinnegan against shin and momoshiki and kinshiki? Hagoromo is the only one who mastered the rinnegan. without the juubi he was already as strong as a juubi jin,and he created the six paths sun and moon seals.
The only useful thing sasuke sharingan is susanoo and genjutsu. Having those two aren't enough to makes his eyes stronger than hags.

Sasuke didn't use any of the Six Paths Techniques, so unless you think he somehow lost them, you can't judge his performance. What are you basing Hagoromo's mastery off of? Simply because he was the first doesn't mean he has feats. Creating the seals have nothing to do with his Rinnegan as far as we know. Literally nothing implies Hagoromo's Rinnegan is for some mysterious reason stronger than either Sasuke's or Madara's. You'll have to provide some sort of proof for that.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Sasuke didn't use any of the Six Paths Techniques, so unless you think he somehow lost them, you can't judge his performance. What are you basing Hagoromo's mastery off of? Simply because he was the first doesn't mean he has feats. Creating the seals have nothing to do with his Rinnegan as far as we know. Literally nothing implies Hagoromo's Rinnegan is for some mysterious reason stronger than either Sasuke's or Madara's. You'll have to provide some sort of proof for that.

absence of evidence is not evidence of absence

 

[Holy God]

absence of evidence is not evidence of absence

A statement made without evidence is not evidence of the statement.

 

[Ansatsuken]

A statement made without evidence is not evidence of the statement.

I search for the meaning of your post and found nothing, so....

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

A statement made without evidence is not evidence of the statement.

that made no damn sense whatsoever

 

[Holy God]

that made no damn sense whatsoever

I find it a bit idiotic that you don't understand the perfect opposite of your quote.

"A statement made without evidence" = A statement with no evidence. (ex. "Hagoromo is a master of the Rinnegan.")

"is not evidence of the statement." = That statement is not evident (proof) of itself, thus there is no reason to believe it is true.

 

[PhantomSage]

Taking into account only Dojutsu :

1. Juudara (Mugen Tsukuyomi, Limbo, Rinnegan)
2. Sasuke (Ameno, BPS)
3. DMS Kakashi (Long range Kamui, PS)
4. Itachi (Tsukuyomi, Susanoo)
5.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

I find it a bit idiotic that you don't understand the perfect opposite of your quote.

"A statement made without evidence" = A statement with no evidence. (ex. "Hagoromo is a master of the Rinnegan.")

"is not evidence of the statement." = That statement is not evident (proof) of itself, thus there is no reason to believe it is true.

except that was stated in the databook under hagoromo's profile...AND it was stated in the manga by kishimoto

 

[Holy God]

except that was stated in the databook under hagoromo's profile...AND it was stated in the manga by kishimoto

That reply is not adequate to what I was arguing. Towards God Of NarutoBase, he himself was basing Hagoromo's skill and his Rinnegan's power (the actual topic of discussion) on nothing. I would be interested in your proof though. I don't remember where it was stated Hagoromo mastered the Rinnegan in the manga (though I'm sure it does), but Hagoromo's profile in the Databook says no such thing.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

That reply is not adequate to what I was arguing. Towards God Of NarutoBase, he himself was basing Hagoromo's skill and his Rinnegan's power (the actual topic of discussion) on nothing. I would be interested in your proof though. I don't remember where it was stated Hagoromo mastered the Rinnegan in the manga (though I'm sure it does), but Hagoromo's profile in the Databook says no such thing.

could have sworn it said so in the databook...but I know for damn sure that kishimoto wrote that hagoromo was the only person to completely master the rinnegan (which makes sense since the dojutsu originated with him)