[VS] Nagato vs. Gokage

[Zexion~]

No, it absorbed his chakra. Not the actual attack itself. Please stop. You sound ridiculous trying to argue something as dumb as "Chakra absorption absorbs a physical attack".

Well it absorbs the lightning shroud strengthening the attack, could Asura not survive it?

 

[KidGamer65]

Well it absorbs the lightning shroud strengthening the attack, could Asura not survive it?

No, because the force has already been applied. Not to mention the majority of Ay's physical striking power comes from speed and his raw physical ability. Absorbing the shroud doesn't change momentum nor does it nullify physical strength + Onoki's jutsu that can obliterate a Ribcage which has survived things stronger than what can take Asura Path out.

 

[LoZelda101]

full intel? lol you insult the kages.

 

[Joshutsu]

Gokage mid-high diff.

None of his past fights we've seen could lead me to believe otherwise personally not too impressive to think he could take on 5 kage at once..

 

[TRE MERCER]

Katsuyu tanks that for them.

Not when it's focused at all so stop with the BS.

Full scale always being circle jerked over when it has only destroyed buildings and fodder civilians. They have Katsuyu, and double stacked defense from Gaara and Onoki. It's not doing anything here except wasting chakra. Get that rubbish outta here.

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then the kage shit on Nagato.

This time it will be focus there is a big difference. Nagato has no need to do full scale unless Onoki gets on Ei back. If he doesn't do that there's no need to get on his back so failed strategy. Lol Gaara and Oonoki defense barely saved them from some Magatama's that Naruto chakra cloak swatted away yet it's going to help against full scale ST?

No, it absorbed his chakra. Not the actual attack itself. Please stop. You sound ridiculous trying to argue something as dumb as "Chakra absorption absorbs a physical attack".

Absorbing chakra does not mean the force behide the punch just goes away. Killer bee absorbed V2 killer bee chakra yet the force behide the punch still put a hole in him and Samehada.

 

[KidGamer65]

Absorbing chakra does not mean the force behide the punch just goes away. Killer bee absorbed V2 killer bee chakra yet the force behide the punch still put a hole in him and Samehada.

No one said it went away. The attack simply did nothing. Chakra absorption absorbs chakra. Not physical damage.

 

[TRE MERCER]

No one said it went away. The attack simply did nothing. Chakra absorption absorbs chakra. Not physical damage.

Im well aware of this.buddy. Ei fist would get the same treatment as v2 Killer bee. Sucked dry without Nagato receiving any damage.

 

[RedRobin]

Not when it's focused at all so stop with the BS.

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What are you even talking about?

 

[TRE MERCER]

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What are you even talking about?

Were talking about the same thing. Now imagine all that force focused on one target. He used it to completely blow away the village thus it's force was spread equally through a circler motion. If he uses all the force in a straight line like his ST used against Itachi[

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]. Means the Gokage defense is blown down negative difficulty.

 

[Anbu Knights]

This time it will be focus there is a big difference. Nagato has no need to do full scale unless Onoki gets on Ei back. If he doesn't do that there's no need to get on his back so failed strategy. Lol Gaara and Oonoki defense barely saved them from some Magatama's that Naruto chakra cloak swatted away yet it's going to help against full scale ST?

He can't use any focused attacks on lightened Ay, who will be moving to fast for him to track. His only option to stop Ay/Onoki from knocking his head clean off is using an AOE S/T to defend himself since the justu covers all angles. This puts him on a 5 sec duration that the other kage can then take advantage of.

What's stoping Onoki and the yondaime from ending this? Nagato is forced to use preta against jinton, which leaves him vulnerable to a lariat. If he drops the absorption field to defend himself from Ay then he gets dismantled by jinton...if he focuses on absorbing jinton then Ay takes his throat off.

Is Nagato so weak that deva path is his only argument here for winning? He can't kill all five of them at once with it, and the five second duration gets him bodied. He really can only afford to use it defensively. One incorrect use of Deva path gets him melted, punched, chopped, or crushed.

 

[RedRobin]

Were talking about the same thing. Now imagine all that force focused on one target. He used it to completely blow away the village thus it's force was spread equally through a circler motion. If he uses all the force in a straight line like his ST used against Itachi[

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]. Means the Gokage defense is blown down negative difficulty.

That attack cannot be focused on one target it can be focused in one direction as shown in that scan you linked but small Katsuyu clones were already able to withstand CST enough to be pushed away. Bigger clones with the Gokage inside will be able to do that same thing against a focused one.

 

[TRE MERCER]

He can't use any focused attacks on lightened Ay, who will be moving to fast for him to track. His only option to stop Ay/Onoki from knocking his head clean off is using an AOE S/T to defend himself since the justu covers all angles. This puts him on a 5 sec duration that the other kage can then take advantage of.

If there hit by his Full scale there dead. All he needs is Animal path and Preta to handle Gaara and Mei,Tsunade while he's on his cool down so that won't matter.

What's stoping Onoki and the yondaime from ending this? Nagato is forced to use preta against jinton, which leaves him vulnerable to a lariat. If he drops the absorption field to defend himself from Ay then he gets dismantled by jinton...if he focuses on absorbing jinton then Ay takes his throat off.

Or he uses one ST to blow them both away. He can also use his other paths while Preta is active or did your forget that he used Human path,Ashura while also using Preta so a preta and deva combination suffices against this strategy or ST alone.

Is Nagato so weak that deva path is his only argument here for winning? He can't kill all five of them at once with it, and the five second duration gets him bodied. He really can only afford to use it defensively. One incorrect use of Deva path gets him melted, punched, chopped, or crushed.

How does that mean he's so weak? Deva is the strongest path by miles. Won't need to kill all 5 of them at once when all he has to do is get rid of Oonoki and it's pretty much a stomp match after that.

That attack cannot be focused on one target it can be focused in one direction as shown in that scan you linked but small Katsuyu clones were already able to withstand CST enough to be pushed away. Bigger clones with the Gokage inside will be able to do that same thing against a focused one.

Yes it can be focused. The only difference between that and a regular ST is the amount of chakra used to make the force. Lol no they won't Katusya entire body wouldn't even be able to save them from a focus Full scale. Quit overrating Katsuya. She only saved the people she did because they weren't the primary target of CT.

 

[RedRobin]

Yes it can be focused. The only difference between that and a regular ST is the amount of chakra used to make the force. Lol no they won't Katusya entire body wouldn't even be able to save them from a focus Full scale. Quit overrating Katsuya. She only saved the people she did because they weren't the primary target of CT.

Lol already said it can be focused but only in a direction not a target.

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small version of Katsuyu was able to withstand it enough to instead of being ripped apart from the pressure instead was simply pushed back. Bigger segments of Katsuyu will without a doubt save them from the attack.

CST was sent out in equal force in a circular motion, everything was the target and everything got hit equally. All

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werent the primary target yet they were demolished.

 

[Edogawa]

Doesn't surprise the buffoons arguing for the Gokage don't understand the foundation of their techniques. TRE MERCER is correct; Preta Path absorbing the Raiton cloak would lessen Ay's physical force and he wouldn't be hurt by it. How does the Raiton cloak work?

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It all about Newton's theory: The faster the object is, the higher force rate. Ay gets his physical boost from his lightning armor; if Nagato absorbs that lightning (which he can) then Ay's physical energy is lessened to the point he can't deliver lethal force. I mean, his full power Lariat failed to put scratch on Bee, who is less durable than Asura Path, so what's that going to do to Nagato? Lel.

Katsuya? Lel. Black rods immobilize her then Gokage don't have anything to protect them from CST.

 

[MasqueradeNX]

Both could win Extreme Difficulty.

 

[Zexion~]

No, because the force has already been applied. Not to mention the majority of Ay's physical striking power comes from speed and his raw physical ability. Absorbing the shroud doesn't change momentum nor does it nullify physical strength + Onoki's jutsu that can obliterate a Ribcage which has survived things stronger than what can take Asura Path out.

I suppose yeah, since the lightening doesn't make it stronger per-say just increases nerve strength or whatever it does, however if he doesn't start swinging until after he enters the field of Preta than it logically should.

I'm not saying Asura tanks it but tanks the damage enough so that his Naraka path can fix it, honestly the path being in the body is pretty op.

 

[KidGamer65]

Im well aware of this.buddy. Ei fist would get the same treatment as v2 Killer bee. Sucked dry without Nagato receiving any damage.

Except Nagato receiving no damage is based on nothing. He got hit, then he absorbed B's chakra. :lol Preta Path does not and will not ever negate physical damage so let's cut the bullshit.

Not sure why we are discussing this when Nagato won't ever react to Ay+Onoki well enough to use Preta Path. :lol

I suppose yeah, since the lightening doesn't make it stronger per-say just increases nerve strength or whatever it does, however if he doesn't start swinging until after he enters the field of Preta than it logically should.

I'm not saying Asura tanks it but tanks the damage enough so that his Naraka path can fix it, honestly the path being in the body is pretty op.

It ripped through Madara's Susanoo. Asura isn't tanking or letting him survive it. No chance at all.

 

[Unorthodox]

Rocket repulsion boots + Deva path equals flight meaning they're speed blitz is useless animals summons can be used to stall.

Nagato high diff.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Were talking about the same thing. Now imagine all that force focused on one target. He used it to completely blow away the village thus it's force was spread equally through a circler motion. If he uses all the force in a straight line like his ST used against Itachi[

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]. Means the Gokage defense is blown down negative difficulty.

Lol no it won't the slug tanked that easily no diff did u not remember this lol

 

[Nattana]

What's their counter to CST?