Naruto's RSM

[00Rinne]

SM already comes with senjutsu so that's not the problem.. The pigment is what needs to be payed attention to.. Naruto in BSM is your second pic..

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Naruto was in some kind of base RSM when he kicked Madara's TSB..

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There's no pigment here!

These are the same as the base RSM but with Kurama's cloak activated...

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Naruto's Hokage cloak being manipulated by his transformation.. (It's still his base RSM with only his bijuu)

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There's no pigment!..

The form that we all know to be THE RSM is 7 TSB & 2 staff with all bijuu Kekkei is this form!...

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Naruto appears to have two different RSM's an one is base RSM no pigment no kyuubi cloak activated
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The other is all bijuu with TSB & staffs with kyuubi cloak activated...

It seems this way to from what i can tell..

 

[Zawerni]

I agree with most parts,but in the databook entry when kishi showed rsm with the cloak,he didn't state anything like the cloak is gotten from all bijuu or kurama or something.

How was naruto flying in the last,if that wasn't rsm.

If naruto still has all his rsm abilities no matter which cloak he's using,then why haven't we seen his gudoudama?,why haven't we seen him flying?

It's still complicated but it all will be revealed soon

No idea. Naruto had pigmentation around his eyes, so it wasn't RSM. Animators either messed that up or don't understand how low gravity works.

He hasn't yet needed his gudoudama for anything.

Naruto has lost RSBM, which is different to RSM.

RSM = Rikudou Sage Mode - i.e. Rikudou chakra mixed with natural energy.
RSBM = Rikudou Senjutsu Bijuu Mode - The sort of counter part to the Juubi Jin and their Coffin Seal. This uses a distinct and highly powerful form of senjutsu that comes with unique traits - the Gudoudamas, the universal comprehension etc.


Kishimoto made it very clear by showing Naruto's back, when Madara noted Naruto's power. The same kind of visually descriptive shot he used with Sasuke, by showing the Rinnegan when Madara noted it.

No such thing as RSBM or whatever. :lol That's your fanfic term.

Naruto has not lost anything. You think Naruto has RSM, but has lost the ability to combine his RSM with his chakra cloak or Bijuu mode? What a ridiculous statement XD

 

[God Of NarutoBase]

Both becoming the Juubi jin and just getting its chakra should give you six paths senjutsu since six paths senjutsu comes from the combination of all bijuu chakra to begin with, which is precisely what the juubi chakra is and how Obito got that chakra from madara = by stealing it without becoming the Juubi jin.

Nope,the chakra of the juubi is still the same thing as six paths chakra. You can't get six paths senjutsu just from the juubi chakra. It can only be gotten by becoming the juubi jin.

The issue here is that you ae confusing six paths chakra with six paths sage mode. You can use six paths sage chakra yet not be in Rikudo sage mode, the Juubi jin is not considered to be a RSM user in the databook even though he should logically have far more chakra than Naruto, so its not about quantity.

I'm not confusing anything,don't even know where all this came from. It not that hard,there isn't anything like six paths sage chakra. There's only six paths chakra. I already know the jj aren't using rsm. They can use six paths senjutsu without being in sage mode unlike naruto because they're the juubi jins.

Also, we don't know if combing toad senjutsu has anything to do with six paths sage mode, all we know is that Obito stole pieces of the chakra from Ichibi and Hachibi to give to Naruto because he "knew which bijuu chakra he lacked" presumably to awaken six paths senjutsu.

we do. First of all naruto got rsm from hagoromo chakra and not the bijuu. This was stated in the 4th databook and in another official document/image it was said that naruto got rsm,when the six paths yang chakra hagoromo gave him combined with his toad senjutsu and gave him rsm,just like how sasuke dojutsu combined with the six paths yin chakra hagoromo gave him and became a rinnegan.

 

[Alastor]

Nope,the chakra of the juubi is still the same thing as six paths chakra. You can't get six paths senjutsu just from the juubi chakra. It can only be gotten by becoming the juubi jin.

Madara outright says that Obito stole the sage chakra though lol

I'm not confusing anything,don't even know where all this came from. It not that hard,there isn't anything like six paths sage chakra. There's only six paths chakra. I already know the jj aren't using rsm. They can use six paths senjutsu without being in sage mode unlike naruto because they're the juubi jins.

Of course you are confused. Six paths sage chakra = Six paths senjutsu = Juubi chakra = combined bijuu chakra.
Six paths chakra (not senjutsu) is Ashura's chakra + Indra's chakra = Rinnegan chakra.

we do. First of all naruto got rsm from hagoromo chakra and not the bijuu. This was stated in the 4th databook and in another official document/image it was said that naruto got rsm,when the six paths yang chakra hagoromo gave him combined with his toad senjutsu and gave him rsm,just like how sasuke dojutsu combined with the six paths yin chakra hagoromo gave him and became a rinnegan.

I know that Naruto got RSM from Hagoromo... Like I said you keep confusing six paths senjutsu with RSM because what I said is that Naruto got Six paths senjutsu from the combined bijuu chakra. We have no idea What Hagoromo did later to turn that into a unique mode like rsm. Amsp there in no scan that says anything about toad sage mode having anything to do with RSM, I've read the databook multiple times.

 

[lndra]

Gotta love at SenseiSama saying "No back design = NO RSM" When both the Manga and Data-Book specifically state that Naruto who utilizes Rikudou Senjutsu has the "+" design on his eyes with no pigmentation.

There's nowhere in the Manga, nor Data-Book that classifies Naruto with the design on his back as the gateway towards Rikudou Sage Modo. Take that garbage out of there.

Naruto utilizing RSM in base - What he used against JJ Madara with the Lava FRS
Naruto utilizing RSM /w Bijuu's chakra - The form he uses against JJ Madara with Rinnegan Sasuke + Kaguya/VOTE 2 Sasuke
Naruto utilizing RSM /w Kyuubi's chakra - Naruto Gaiden + Boruto Movie/Manga

 

[NextGenNinja]

No SM pigmentation and no glowing skin means that's RSM or a type of it. I'd argue the form in the last also had rikudou chakra but meh.

 

[Nick01]

What Naruto used against Momo was RBSM(RSM + BM), only using Kurama, which is why he took on that appearance. His strongest form is RSM w/ the chakra of ALL nine bijuus, which results in the appearance he had against JJ Madara. To enter that mode, all he has to do is call on the bijuu's, but then the villain would get rekt too easily. Should've made him more powerful imo.

 

[chaos control]

No tomoe on the back = no RSM

Six Path Senjutsu is Juubi chakra and requires the chakra of all bijuu not just Kurama. What Naruto used in the movie was BSM.

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Every time you debate about RSM, you always mention the tomoe on the back, but what about the cloak-less RSM that Naruto donned when he kicked Madara's truth seeking ball and then used lava style rasenshuriken? That was officially stated to be RSM in the databook.

If a cloak-less mode (with no tomoe) is considered RSM, then why couldn't a chakara mode be considered as such?

Anyway, to be honest, I have my own personal theory about adult Naruto's mode(s). I will put it in a separate post.

 

[Shroud]

The second picture looks like BSM and the one from the Boruto movie looks like KCM. It's easy to tell which is which by looking at the color of his skin.

Wowww racist af you judging skill by the color of a mans skin smh

 

[chaos control]

My personal theory on the matter is:

After the main original manga ended, Kishi stopped caring about the specifics of his protagonist's powers, and then just decided to plop some random inconsistent golden modes on Naruto!

It really wasn't a good decision in my opinion to change the designs of Naruto's modes. I know he changed the designs because Naruto aged and changed in appearance, but all changing the design has done is make everything regarding Naruto's power confusing for us readers.

 

[BlacLord™]

No such thing as RSBM or whatever. :lol That's your fanfic term.

Naruto has not lost anything. You think Naruto has RSM, but has lost the ability to combine his RSM with his chakra cloak or Bijuu mode? What a ridiculous statement XD

No such thing as "BSM" or "KCM" really exists; they're all fan-made abbreviations.

Naruto has lost RSBM, and I did not say Naruto has lost RSM - he hasn't. You don't seem to grasp that "Rikudou Sage Mode" is different from "Rikudou Senjutsu Bijuu Mode".

With having the chakra of the nine Biju and Rikudou chakra, Naruto was able to access a form akin to that of the Juubi's Jinchuriki with Coffin Seal in place. This is called Rikudou Senjutsu, and was referred to in the

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along with its distinct visual pattern that Kishi highlights in that scan, as well on occasions in the databook:

"says that when an individual manifests (literally "blossoms" 開花) Six Paths Senjutsu, black orbs comprising the power of all five elements and yin-yang appear

"It's a sealing jutsu that can be used by individuals who awaken Six Paths Senjutsu."

In short, it is the power responsible for the markings on one's back, and the Gudoudamas amongst other things. There are multiple ways to obtain it, but the one in question is the form Naruto dons when facing Madara. Whatever you want to call it, that is the one that involves Rikudou Senjutsu - it is the one with the Gudoudamas, enlightenment and markings. Everyone who has Rikudou Senjutsu - a power of its own - has the markings.

What Naruto has in Gaiden/Boruto is Rikudou Bijuu Sage Mode (RBSM). It has Rikudou chakra, but not Rikudou Senjutsu. RSM is

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- it has no pigmentation but lacks the Rikudou Senjutsu markings, hence why there's no Gudoudamas or universal comprehension in this form. The same lack of pigmentation extends into his Gaiden and Boruto forms,

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, which means he's still employing the use of Rikudou chakra, but not Rikudou Senjutsu. The difference in his RSM form from

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to what we see in Boruto is the combination of it plus Bijuu Mode - hence Rikudou Bijuu Sage Mode.

 

[Zawerni]

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That's a lot of fanfiction you got there. :lol

There is no such thing as "Rikudou Senjutsu Bijuu Mode"

Naruto's mode is Rikudou Sage Mode. Whether he is in base or with any of his chakra cloaks, with or without the magatama and gudoudama, it is Rikudou Sage Mode.

You keep saying Six Paths Senjutsu, as if it makes any difference. Six Paths Senjutsu is senjutsu using Six Paths Sage Chakra. Six Paths Sage Chakra is Six Paths chakra mixed with nature energy. When Naruto is in RSM, his attacks utilize Six Paths Sage Chakra. You can't claim Naruto has RSM but lost Six Paths Senjutsu XD

What Naruto used against Madara, Kaguya, and VOTE2 Sasuke is RSM. What Naruto has in Gaiden and Boruto is RSM. Keep your nonsense fanfic terms to yourself. :lol

Naruto has not lost anything.

 

[God Of NarutoBase]

My personal theory on the matter is:

After the main original manga ended, Kishi stopped caring about the specifics of his protagonist's powers, and then just decided to plop some random inconsistent golden modes on Naruto!

It really wasn't a good decision in my opinion to change the designs of Naruto's modes. I know he changed the designs because Naruto aged and changed in appearance, but all changing the design has done is make everything regarding Naruto's power confusing for us readers.

Here's the thing i've been saying all along. Kishi didn't actually change or introduce any design we've not seen before. The cloaks adult naruto has been using since gaiden is the good bijuu mode cloak teen naruto used in the war. The thing that made all this confusing is that each of naruto modes comes with his own cloak design.
Naruto's rsm cloak when introduced came with's own new design different from that of bsm in that the color was yellow while that of bsm was orange. Naruto skin glowed in bsm while it didn't in rsm. Naruto's eyes were yellow in rsm,while it was orange in bsm. Naruto had the six paths senjutsu symbols on his cloak in rsm while there wasn't any in bsm. There weren't any pigment on naruto eyes in rsm,while there were in bsm.

With that,the rsm and bijuu modes were very clearly distinguished,but kishi f<cked that all up,when he showed naruto in bsm mode with the most important distinction of rsm mode,which is the abscence of pigments on the eye. Thereb,bringing about a lot of confusion.

He could have at least given naruto the gudoudama or six path senjutsu markings to clarify things but noooo he didn't.

We're all supposed to believe that the form naruto uses now is rsm and not bsm,but ask anybody here to name one thing that teen rsm naruto had or did that this adult naruto has shown??? Absolutely nothing,no flight,no tsb,no universal comprehension,no super sensing,no bijuu or any kkg,no super durability,just nothing. The only thing they can tell you is that there's no pigment,so it's automatically rsm :lol: . WELL I BLAME KISHI FOR THIS.

 

[Ansatsuken]

The full RSM is the first picture. Other are not.

 

[adeshina365]

The lack of pigmentation (around his eyes) in the latest designs suggests RSM.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Naruto has lost RSBM, which is different to RSM.

RSM = Rikudou Sage Mode - i.e. Rikudou chakra mixed with natural energy.
RSBM = Rikudou Senjutsu Bijuu Mode - The sort of counter part to the Juubi Jin and their Coffin Seal. This uses a distinct and highly powerful form of senjutsu that comes with unique traits - the Gudoudamas, the universal comprehension etc.


Kishimoto made it very clear by showing Naruto's back, when Madara noted Naruto's power. The same kind of visually descriptive shot he used with Sasuke, by showing the Rinnegan when Madara noted it.

naruto hasn't lost jack shit

 

[adeshina365]

I believe previous posters are correct when they say that the configuration follows as below:

- RSM = Naruto's new Senjutsu mode. It is a permanent fixture in his arsenal. This is what we saw when Naruto saved Gai from Madara.

- RSM + BM = The mode Naruto is currently using in Boruto. This is RSM layered with BM from Kurama

- RSM + BM + Chakra from other Bijuu = The mode Naruto used when he fought Madara, Kaguya and Sasuke. Naruto can't access this mode because he needs more chakra from the Bijuu to do it.

Naruto has compensated for the loss of the 8 Bijuu chakras with the acquisition of 100% Kurama.

 

[Zawerni]

Naruto has compensated for the loss of the 8 Bijuu chakras with the acquisition of 100% Kurama.

Naruto has not lost the other Bijuu chakra.

Hagoromo's own words were that Naruto is the meeting place of the Bijuu, and they are able to communicate with him or each other at any time because he has all their chakra.

 

[adeshina365]

Naruto has not lost the other Bijuu chakra.

Hagoromo's own words were that Naruto is the meeting place of the Bijuu, and they are able to communicate with him or each other at any time because he has all their chakra.

I don't deny that he can get it back, but in VOTE2 Naruto was said to have very little of the Bijuu chakra...and ran dry by the end of VOTE2.

It looks like Naruto can't used TSB w/o Bijuu chakras.

 

[Zawerni]

I don't deny that he can get it back, but in VOTE2 Naruto was said to have very little of the Bijuu chakra...and ran dry by the end of VOTE2.

It looks like Naruto can't used TSB w/o Bijuu chakras.

TSB don't even require Bijuu chakra to use. They only need the 5 basic elements and Yin-Yang Release.