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Gai punches were far more impressive.

How are they "far more impressive" than breaking the Gracious Deity Gates which not even the Juubi could overcome and which are durable enough to tank a Juubi bomb with no damage ?
 

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How are they "far more impressive" than breaking the Gracious Deity Gates which not even the Juubi could overcome and which are durable enough to tank a Juubi bomb with no damage ?

His punches are so powerful that they move air with incredible force + he broke a gudoudama with just physical force. Gai is waaayyy more impressive.
 

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I'll be waiting :sigar:

Wait is over.



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ANd this are the same,you need some glasses dude.
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Next you'll tell me these two are different modes.
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Its called a redesign, mate. Its not that rare.

Lmao,so you think naruto spun because he wanted to defend against a chidori not by blocking but by having it hit his stomach :lmao:. Soooo,you call naruto "defending", when a chidori hit him cause he was not fast enough to evade it different from when a sword which he didn't notice, pierced him in the stomach.
lol,so all in all, you're saying the level of naruto's durability is determined by whether he can see an attack or not. Wow,that makes so much sense :lmao:

It does. Once Toneri threw a moon cutting sword at him and he took it in the face. The second time, when he focused the same attack, Naruto was able to break through it with a single arm. Thus, preparation allows for better tanking.
 

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His punches are so powerful that they move air with incredible force + he broke a gudoudama with just physical force. Gai is waaayyy more impressive.

Moving the air means nothing, that's speed and even 6th gate does it. And breaking a Gudodama does not put him above Juubi level firepower since even Sasuke's suansoo arrows and a casual attack from Juubi madara were breaking them. For you to argue that Guy is more powerful than Juubito in the physical department means that you believe that Guy hits harder than a Juubi bomb, do you really think that's the case ?
 

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No, it was BSM under the influence of Hagoromo's chakra instead of just Naruto's. Six Path Senjutsu can't be used without the chakra of the 9 bijuu, Kishi has made that clear.

where did he make that clear?...cause last time I checked that was not true in the slightest
 

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where did he make that clear?...cause last time I checked that was not true in the slightest

Six Path Senjutsu is Juubi chakra, if Naruto doesn't have the same features as JuubiJin he's not using RSM

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Moving the air means nothing, that's speed and even 6th gate does it. And breaking a Gudodama does not put him above Juubi level firepower since even Sasuke's suansoo arrows and a casual attack from Juubi madara were breaking them. For you to argue that Guy is more powerful than Juubito in the physical department means that you believe that Guy hits harder than a Juubi bomb, do you really think that's the case ?

seems you need to read the manga again. Show me in the manga where a gudodama has been damaged by anything that's not senjutsu or rikudou enhanced. You know gudoudama tanked 4 juubi bombs,that's how durable it is, and yet guy broke it with just physical force,so you have no argument here,goodbye.
 

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seems you need to read the manga again. Show me in the manga where a gudodama has been damaged by anything that's not senjutsu or rikudou enhanced. You know gudoudama tanked 4 juubi bombs,that's how durable it is, and yet guy broke it with just physical force,so you have no argument here,goodbye.

You are the one who needs to read the manga, the only reason Gudodama cannot be damaged by something that does not have sage chakra is because the Gudodama would erase that thing, not block it through durability. The reason why Guy was able to break it through strength is because he punched Madara against it and madara has sage chakra so he can interact with it without being erased.
The one who does not have an argument here is you because what you are saying has nothing to do with durability.
 

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You are the one who needs to read the manga, the only reason Gudodama cannot be damaged by something that does not have sage chakra is because the Gudodama would erase that thing, not block it through durability. The reason why Guy was able to break it through strength is because he punched Madara against it and madara has sage chakra so he can interact with it without being erased.
The one who does not have an argument here is you because what you are saying has nothing to do with durability.

i'm done with you. it's clear you don't know mangaphacts and btw i've been referring to when gai broke madara gudodama staff into two with night moth.
 

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i'm done with you. it's clear you don't know mangaphacts and btw i've been referring to when gai broke madara gudodama staff into two with night moth.

That makes your argument even more nonsensical then because Guy did not break the staff. Its shape was distorted because the space itself was being distorted by Guy's attack, much like how the trees were distorted the first time Kakashi used Kamui, yet they did not break.
Also, feel free to bail out whenever you want, we both know who is wrong here.
 

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Six Path Senjutsu is Juubi chakra, if Naruto doesn't have the same features as JuubiJin he's not using RSM

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not what kishimoto wrote about the jutsu
 

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That makes your argument even more nonsensical then because Guy did not break the staff. Its shape was distorted because the space itself was being distorted by Guy's attack, much like how the trees were distorted the first time Kakashi used Kamui, yet they did not break.
Also, feel free to bail out whenever you want, we both know who is wrong here.

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Valid point, I never noticed the staff broke before. Still doesn't change anything to the original points = Distorted space, has nothing to do with strength + Gudodamas have been destroyed by weaker attacks.
 

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Valid point, I never noticed the staff broke before. Still doesn't change anything to the original points = Distorted space, has nothing to do with strength + Gudodamas have been destroyed by weaker attacks.

It actually does. Sure guy speed was distorting space but it wasn't the speed that broke the staff,it was the force from his leg kick. Gudodama have been destroyed by far weaker attacks,i agree. But the thing is gudoudama's are virtually indestructible to anything that doesn't have natural energy. An example is it tanking 4 juubi beast bombs. Gai breaking it with just pure physical force is just pure crazy.
 

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It actually does. Sure guy speed was distorting space but it wasn't the speed that broke the staff,it was the force from his leg kick. Gudodama have been destroyed by far weaker attacks,i agree. But the thing is gudoudama's are virtually indestructible to anything that doesn't have natural energy. An example is it tanking 4 juubi beast bombs. Gai breaking it with just pure physical force is just pure crazy.

Guy could not have broken it with physical strength because Guy cannot even touch the Gudodama which would erase him. I don't think this is very hard to understand, anything that touches Gudodama without the proper chakra gets erased, which is why Madara was so surprised when Naruto kicked one, it has nothing to do with durability :
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The reason they blocked the Bijuu bombs was due to this effect, not because they are durable enough to tank them.
 

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Guy could not have broken it with physical strength because Guy cannot even touch the Gudodama which would erase him. I don't think this is very hard to understand, anything that touches Gudodama without the proper chakra gets erased, which is why Madara was so surprised when Naruto kicked one, it has nothing to do with durability :
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The reason they blocked the Bijuu bombs was due to this effect, not because they are durable enough to tank them.

He did actually. It was explained by edo hiruzen. The tsb can be manipulated to be in solid form for defence or in a matter form which is similar to ohnoki jintou.

The tsb melting the ice and cutting the kunai is it's jintou effect. THE TSB TANKED THE JUUBI BOMBS IN IT'S SOLID FORM AS IT BEING IN THE OTHER FORM MAKES NO SENSE. IT'S THAT SIMPLE,ONLY NATURAL ENERGY CAN DAMAGE IT IN SOLID FORM.
 
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