[Discussion] Yonkou commander bounties

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So we now know 2 of BM's commander's boutnies; 860 mil and 932 mil and we know 1 of Kaidous; 1 bil.

My question is knowing these numbers, are we assuming Jack is the top of Kaidou's commanders? Or are we assuming that Kaidou's commanders are > BM's? I'm curious to see what peoples interpretations on it are.

Do you think the commander Urogue took out was higher or lower than Cracker's 860? Do you think Smoothie's 932 is the highest or is Katakuri's likely going to be higher?

We also know Ace was 550 mil do you think the other commanders are higher?
 
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Jack is defo the weakest Calamity. No way Oda will use the strongest Calamity at the begining and then introduce the weaker ones later on.
Calling it now that the Shogun of Wano is the strongest Calamity.
 

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Bounties are placed and ranked due to damage the individual or group has caused to the navy, other pirates and civilian. Example "Kid" has a larger bounty then Luffy, because his merciless mentality and harsh acts that have left nothing but destruction behind him. In saying so, people need to stop judging individuals and there bounties.

For all we know, Dragon, the most wanted individual in One Piece is a normal man with NO skills or attributes in fighting and yet has the biggest bounty in one piece due to him causing a revolt against the government. (Of course, im not saying Dragon is weak, and of course im not saying he isnt strong. Just giving you the perspective that you all seem to need as everyone keeps judging in the wrong prescriptive)
 

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Jack is defo the weakest Calamity. No way Oda will use the strongest Calamity at the begining and then introduce the weaker ones later on.
Calling it now that the Shogun of Wano is the strongest Calamity.
Shogun's not a Calamity. Kaido is working with him, Wheras the Calamities work for him. Same way that Law isn't one of the Monster Trio.
 

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Jack imo is going to be the weakest. The wouldn't introduce Kaido strongest man just to get beat before we even get an actual Kaido arc that would be extremely anti climatic. Im going on a whip and saying that there will be 2 more stronger than Kaido.
 

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Shogun's not a Calamity. Kaido is working with him, Wheras the Calamities work for him. Same way that Law isn't one of the Monster Trio.
Before he became the Shogun its possible he was a normal Samurai Pirate and was part of Kaido's crew. Also think the Shogun is a Dragon and he has original fruit of what Momonosuke has. Thats why Kinnemon hates Dragons.
 

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The thing is I don't think the calamities or commanders of a yonko are technically > one another

For one bounties don't mean a thing ....

Also the reason I say this because take whitebeards commanders for example while I rank Marco >jozu due to abilitity and versatility
I don't see how Marco would even harm jozu.... I think all the commanders for every yonko (except ace because he was killed off before Haki was developed if he wasn't he would be like sabo) dofflamingo and post mera meta sabo (once he knows how to use his fruit) and the dukes by hype in the same category :| (also kuma with brain/Haki and Ivankov)

Sometimes it may seem like A>B but C might beat A but lose to B for example while I think jack is most likely a Haki beast from what he is shown and the nature of a mammoth I don't c how he would beat the likes of Marco who just instant regins (don't know limit yet)+ flight and dofflamingo who can attack u from anywhere with his awakening and also flight ... (not to mention if the dukes can keep him at bay both Marco and doffy frommwhat they have shown should be able to do the same)

One piece will not and never will be dbz... dbz is strictly a>b>c (not including super didn't finish it yet lol) but yeah toriyama has put out power levels literally ranking everyone in the vers

Oda literally dodges the question of who's stronger zoro vs sanji every time it's asked (ibeleive because they will fight later. On but w.e, also because it's not that cut and dry.. zoro has more damage and physically stronger however we seen what happens when your faster then zoro example being pica and that mink chick.. sanji main fighting style is dodging and his speciality is observation which furthers imply that. So yeah sanji to me until proven otherwise does not have enough damage output to defeat zoro and zoro will def have a hard time physically keeping up with sanji (as shown byvergo who is def fasterthen zoro) etc
Also sorry didn't wanna make this zoro vs sanji
Just giving an example of how one piece is not dbz in the slightest
 

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Before he became the Shogun its possible he was a normal Samurai Pirate and was part of Kaido's crew. Also think the Shogun is a Dragon and he has original fruit of what Momonosuke has. Thats why Kinnemon hates Dragons.
Honestly I think it's how doffy was to kaido not apart of kaido's crew in slightest however business partners both receiving mutual benefits. Kaido getting the artificial Df and doffy getting shit ton of money (in addition to all his other underground dealings he was the top broker of the underworld in the entire one piece vers)
 

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The Sweet Commander strength ranking is Katakuri>Smoothie>Cracker>Snack.

Katakuri is the strongest Sweet Commander, so his bounty should be approximately 1 billion if Jack is the FM of Kaido.
 

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So we now know 2 of BM's commander's boutnies; 860 mil and 932 mil and we know 1 of Kaidous; 1 bil.

My question is knowing these numbers, are we assuming Jack is the top of Kaidou's commanders? Or are we assuming that Kaidou's commanders are > BM's? I'm curious to see what peoples interpretations on it are.

Do you think the commander Urogue took out was higher or lower than Cracker's 860? Do you think Smoothie's 932 is the highest or is Katakuri's likely going to be higher?

We also know Ace was 550 mil do you think the other commanders are higher?
I don't think Kaido's commanders are better than Big Mom's, I just think Jack was destructive. He got his nickname for a reason, and it's probably because he constantly pillaged villages and murdered civilians. I do think that there's going to be higher bounties than Cracker's, I don't think he was the strongest to be honest
 
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Never would have though you'd make a thread regarding a bounty system equaling to ones strength... smh.

But on topic, I hope Snack doesn't have a higher bounty than biscuit, the Urouge wank would sky rocket and I've already had enough of that... I'm wondering why Smoothie's is so high to be honest, I can see her possibly have taking out someone big and important with her DF and the WG then decided she was a huge threat, because although it's a cool power, I don't see it being wholly that useful in a battle, but I'm sure Goda will show me up on that one!

Same with Jack, A huge ass mammoth is pretty damn cool and is surely to be destructive, which we've seen he is, but in a 1 v 1 I just don't see him being a challenge for characters of the likes / around Doffy tier and above. I think his bounty is so high because of the nature of his fruit and the nature of his personality of just destroying shit. I personally think Kaido will have a Calamity lower in bounty and higher in bounty than Jack, but they both are going to pose a higher threat in combat ability.

As for Big Mom's, I do think Katakuri will have a higher bounty and be the strongest, however, I think Biscuit was the second strongest Sweet Commander.
 

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Never would have though you'd make a thread regarding a bounty system equaling to ones strength... smh.

But on topic, I hope Snack doesn't have a higher bounty than biscuit, the Urouge wank would sky rocket and I've already had enough of that... I'm wondering why Smoothie's is so high to be honest, I can see her possibly have taking out someone big and important with her DF and the WG then decided she was a huge threat, because although it's a cool power, I don't see it being wholly that useful in a battle, but I'm sure Goda will show me up on that one!

Same with Jack, A huge ass mammoth is pretty damn cool and is surely to be destructive, which we've seen he is, but in a 1 v 1 I just don't see him being a challenge for characters of the likes / around Doffy tier and above. I think his bounty is so high because of the nature of his fruit and the nature of his personality of just destroying shit. I personally think Kaido will have a Calamity lower in bounty and higher in bounty than Jack, but they both are going to pose a higher threat in combat ability.

As for Big Mom's, I do think Katakuri will have a higher bounty and be the strongest, however, I think Biscuit was the second strongest Sweet Commander.
It was more to get an idea if people believed Jack would be the lowest or highest calamity when the highest BM commander we know is right around 1 bil too. If her highest is right around 1 bil then it would make sense for Jack to be either the highest or 2nd highest calamity but most act as if he's the lowest.
 

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The thing is I don't think the calamities or commanders of a yonko are technically > one another

For one bounties don't mean a thing ....

Also the reason I say this because take whitebeards commanders for example while I rank Marco >jozu due to abilitity and versatility
I don't see how Marco would even harm jozu.... I think all the commanders for every yonko (except ace because he was killed off before Haki was developed if he wasn't he would be like sabo) dofflamingo and post mera meta sabo (once he knows how to use his fruit) and the dukes by hype in the same category :| (also kuma with brain/Haki and Ivankov)

Sometimes it may seem like A>B but C might beat A but lose to B for example while I think jack is most likely a Haki beast from what he is shown and the nature of a mammoth I don't c how he would beat the likes of Marco who just instant regins (don't know limit yet)+ flight and dofflamingo who can attack u from anywhere with his awakening and also flight ... (not to mention if the dukes can keep him at bay both Marco and doffy frommwhat they have shown should be able to do the same)

One piece will not and never will be dbz... dbz is strictly a>b>c (not including super didn't finish it yet lol) but yeah toriyama has put out power levels literally ranking everyone in the vers

Oda literally dodges the question of who's stronger zoro vs sanji every time it's asked (ibeleive because they will fight later. On but w.e, also because it's not that cut and dry.. zoro has more damage and physically stronger however we seen what happens when your faster then zoro example being pica and that mink chick.. sanji main fighting style is dodging and his speciality is observation which furthers imply that. So yeah sanji to me until proven otherwise does not have enough damage output to defeat zoro and zoro will def have a hard time physically keeping up with sanji (as shown byvergo who is def fasterthen zoro) etc
Also sorry didn't wanna make this zoro vs sanji
Just giving an example of how one piece is not dbz in the slightest
Let it go dawg, Doflamingo is a relic of the past.
 
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