Rinnegan Sasuke vs Founders

[Ambivalence]

S3 is almost the same as the previous two. Madara adds little to Hashirama's offense on his own, since Kurama would be instantly CT'd or Rinnegan genjutsu'd.

Either Kurama is used against them and they get raped, or Sasuke just locks it up in the sky and the founders lose all the same.

He wins all 3 scenarios.

S1&2 can be won by sasuke

:lol

 

[KidGamer65]

Back to this? Sasuke wins. No counter for Chibaku tensei or genjutsu.

Lol so you still believe Madara and Hashirama wins?

They have a significant chance of victory considering the only arguments I've seen are Chibaku Tensei and Genjutsu, and the former is probably a terrible argument unless you people mean "Genjutsu+Chibaku Tensei", because what was shown in the Manga is that Sasuke was able to lock them in CT w/o a core after creating a link between him and them. (Genjutsu)

And Genjutsu can easily be prevented.

The only thing that lets him win for sure is Ameno and if it can be used w/ PS or not. If it can then he simply teleports to them directly and kills them with PS Chidori. If not then his only chance would be to blitz w/ Ameno before the constructs come out, but because they start in them SS and PS Kurama would obliterate him as there is no way he's going against both constructs together and coming out anything but a pile of dust.

 

[KCN]

They have a significant chance of victory considering the only arguments I've seen are Chibaku Tensei and Genjutsu, and the former is probably a terrible argument unless you people mean "Genjutsu+Chibaku Tensei", because what was shown in the Manga is that Sasuke was able to lock them in CT w/o a core after creating a link between him and them. (Genjutsu)

And Genjutsu can easily be prevented.

The only thing that lets him win for sure is Ameno and if it can be used w/ PS or not. If it can then he simply teleports to them directly and kills them with PS Chidori. If not then his only chance would be to blitz w/ Ameno before the constructs come out, but because they start in them SS and PS Kurama would obliterate him as there is no way he's going against both constructs together and coming out anything but a pile of dust.

The databook doesn't mention anything about Genjutsu being needed to establish a coreless CT. It's listed as a completely separate technique.

 

[KidGamer65]

The databook doesn't mention anything about Genjutsu being needed to establish a coreless CT. It's listed as a completely separate technique.

That's because Genjutsu itself isn't necessary. The link Genjutsu created between him and the Bijuu is what was necessary. At the very least there is nothing suggesting he can just clap his hands and make anyone into a core when the only time he did it he had a link to his target.

Not to mention CT is only described as two versions in the Databook. The one that Nagato and Madara used and then Six Paths CT. Sasuke isn't listed as a user in the DB and that's probably because it only covers up to Chapter 691. Sasuke used CT for the first time in Chapter 692.

 

[TRE MERCER]

They have a significant chance of victory considering the only arguments I've seen are Chibaku Tensei and Genjutsu, and the former is probably a terrible argument unless you people mean "Genjutsu+Chibaku Tensei", because what was shown in the Manga is that Sasuke was able to lock them in CT w/o a core after creating a link between him and them. (Genjutsu)

And Genjutsu can easily be prevented.

The only thing that lets him win for sure is Ameno and if it can be used w/ PS or not. If it can then he simply teleports to them directly and kills them with PS Chidori. If not then his only chance would be to blitz w/ Ameno before the constructs come out, but because they start in them SS and PS Kurama would obliterate him as there is no way he's going against both constructs together and coming out anything but a pile of dust.

Not going to debate this again since we already went pages upon pages doing so in the past i just want to know do you think they can beat RSM Naruto?

Sasuke Indra arrow should be enough to take Hashirama since it is his strongest tech.(He should be able to use it without the Bijuu chakra.)

 

[KidGamer65]

Not going to debate this again since we already went pages upon pages doing so in the past i just want to know do you think they can beat RSM Naruto?

You'd have to put quite a few restrictions on Naruto for him to lose to these two. :lol So no, he beats them both comfortably.

 

[TRE MERCER]

S3 is almost the same as the previous two. Madara adds little to Hashirama's offense on his own, since Kurama would be instantly CT'd or Rinnegan genjutsu'd.

Either Kurama is used against them and they get raped, or Sasuke just locks it up in the sky and the founders lose all the same.

He wins all 3 scenarios.



:lol

It's clear that argus thinks Hashirama alone can beat Rinnegan Sasuke i don't know why he just won't say it lmao.

 

[adeshina365]

That's because Genjutsu itself isn't necessary. The link Genjutsu created between him and the Bijuu is what was necessary. At the very least there is nothing suggesting he can just clap his hands and make anyone into a core when the only time he did it he had a link to his target.

Not to mention CT is only described as two versions in the Databook. The one that Nagato and Madara used and then Six Paths CT. Sasuke isn't listed as a user in the DB and that's probably because it only covers up to Chapter 691. Sasuke used CT for the first time in Chapter 692.

Absolute BS. If Sasuke hadn't used genjutsu, the Bijuu would have been free to launch BD.

This is nonsensical fallacious argument.

 

[KidGamer65]

It's clear that argus thinks Hashirama alone can beat Rinnegan Sasuke i don't know why he just won't say it lmao.

Yeah, Hashirama definitely doesn't beat Sasuke on his own regardless of what people think about SS vs. PS.

Sasuke Indra arrow should be enough to take Hashirama since it is his strongest tech.(He should be able to use it without the Bijuu chakra.)

If he can use it without the Bijuu Chakra, but obviously weaker than it normally would be, then yeah, I think it'd be strong enough to overpower and defeat SS in a single shot.

Absolute BS.

That is exactly what was shown in the Manga. If you or anyone else wants to claim he can do that to anyone who isn't under his Genjutsu or linked to him in some other way I suggest you actually prove it instead of complaining, because it seems you complain more than you actually post real arguments. :lol

Absolute BS. If Sasuke hadn't used genjutsu, the Bijuu would have been free to launch BD.

And what is this supposed to prove? Oh wait. Nothing at all. Typical. What's fallacious is saying Sasuke can make anyone and anything his core even though the only thing that was shown is that he can do that to things under his control or rather linked to him in some way shape or form.

Get me those scans proving otherwise and I'll concede...which will be never because they don't exist. :lol

 

[TRE MERCER]

Yeah, Hashirama definitely doesn't beat Sasuke on his own regardless of what people think about SS vs. PS.




If he can use it without the Bijuu Chakra, but obviously weaker than it normally would be, then yeah, I think it'd be strong enough to overpower and defeat SS in a single shot.

He should have it without the Bijuu. Sasuke said Indra arrow was his strongest attack he couldn't possibly have decided that after getting the Bijuu since there was no possible way for Sasuke to know he'd get the Bijuu in the first place.

 

[KidGamer65]

He should have it without the Bijuu. Sasuke said Indra arrow was his strongest attack he couldn't possibly have decided that after getting the Bijuu since there was no possible way for Sasuke to know he'd get the Bijuu in the first place.

That doesn't really prove anything. It's an attack that utilize his own power+power he doesn't have on his own so logically that means it's his strongest technique right then and there.

 

[ARGUS]

It's clear that argus thinks Hashirama alone can beat Rinnegan Sasuke i don't know why he just won't say it lmao.

So me thinking that the firepower of Chojo >> PS slashes
And SS tanking ps slashes equates to Hashirsma > Sasuke?

Hashirama may not beat SAsuke but he definitely beats him if he's backed up by vote madara

 

[Unorthodox]

They have a significant chance of victory considering the only arguments I've seen are Chibaku Tensei and Genjutsu, and the former is probably a terrible argument unless you people mean "Genjutsu+Chibaku Tensei", because what was shown in the Manga is that Sasuke was able to lock them in CT w/o a core after creating a link between him and them. (Genjutsu)

And Genjutsu can easily be prevented.

The only thing that lets him win for sure is Ameno and if it can be used w/ PS or not. If it can then he simply teleports to them directly and kills them with PS Chidori. If not then his only chance would be to blitz w/ Ameno before the constructs come out, but because they start in them SS and PS Kurama would obliterate him as there is no way he's going against both constructs together and coming out anything but a pile of dust.

Sasuke already used ameno with ps,

How can the prevent Genjutsu that does not require eye contact.

Sasuke needing to blitz to win is a joke when the latter defenses are slashed apart with a single blade.

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke already used ameno with ps,

How can the prevent Genjutsu that does not require eye contact.

Sasuke needing to blitz to win is a joke when the latter defenses are slashed apart with a single blade.

Genjutsu not needing eye contact is fanfiction. The rest is more nonsense you can't prove. Don't reply to me with this garbage son. :lol

 

[Unorthodox]

Genjutsu not needing eye contact is fanfiction. The rest is more nonsense you can't prove. Don't reply to me with this garbage son. :lol

His ps blade already proved it can chop chunks that is much larger be than the latter. So their constructions are busted. Hagoromo already confirmed his genjutsu ability

 

[KidGamer65]

His ps blade already proved it can chop chunks that is much larger be than the latter. So their constructions are busted. Hagoromo already confirmed his genjutsu ability

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[Warlocks]

rinna sasuke low dif

 

[Mellanoma]

He should have it without the Bijuu. Sasuke said Indra arrow was his strongest attack he couldn't possibly have decided that after getting the Bijuu since there was no possible way for Sasuke to know he'd get the Bijuu in the first place.

That doesn't really prove anything. It's an attack that utilize his own power+power he doesn't have on his own so logically that means it's his strongest technique right then and there.

Funny, I made a thread about Kirin and Indra comparisons and was laughed at since people REALLY believed that Sasuke's Indra Arrow was the same strength with or without Bijuu Chakra which is not true.

EVEN if Indra arrow was sasuke's strongest attack without bijuu chakra it still would be a weaker version than the bijuu chakra version.


Rasengan is the perfect example of this.

Base Rasengan vs Rasengan pumped with more chakra.. Same technique WAY different damage scales

@Genjutsu arguments

People forget Uchiha/Hagaromo/Rinnegan users are linked to the tailed beast so naturally they can control them. This doesn't mean there is an omnigenjutsu that works on everyone it simply means they can control the tailed beast. You can see the progression of this up until Sasuke

 

[UzumakiFate]

S1&2 can be won by sasuke

S3 is a mid diff win for founders

He can't deal with their firepower. His best move PS-Chidori is only on par with a regular RSM TBB and their combined explosion is far below what was created at VotE1. and his PS slashes are nowhere near sufficient to bust their constructs
He can only do PS-Chidori one at a time, and if he attacks one,'the other swarms him with his attacks
Repeated punches from Chojo would obliterate his PS and once PS is down. He gets wrecked

L-O-L :lol

How ****ing moronic is this guy going to get ? :lol

PS Chidori being on par with just TBB is irrelevant, Sasuke doesn't do damage with explosions, so it's ****ing retarded to gauge his power like that you dumb ass :lol
Sasuke uses highly concentrated sword slashes, Madara's regular PS slashes were dusting Hashirama's SS arms, Sasuke's PS swords >>> Madara's PS swords, and then there's the fact that Sasuke's PS is way faster for either construct to keep up with, his PS was fast enough to obliterate a Shinju stump size CT in the same time it took Naruto's Bijuu FRS to detonate, that puts it's speed way above Madara, fool :lol

SS's arms simply gets obliterated in few seconds, and then Hashirama gets cleaved in half, and then Madara's Susano'o gets gutted with a Chidori PS + Ameno combo.

Sasuke wins mid difficulty, this is something an idiot like yourself can't understand :lol

 

[UzumakiFate]

Sasuke dies quite easily in all scenarios due to the huge gap in firepower.

Maybe in your own retarded, ****ed up, delulu world, Hashi's fanboy :lol