Naruto Plot Holes: Anyone wanna give these a shot?

[fiercerunner]

Saw this and thought it was pretty irrefutable. Prove 'em wrong!!!

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[Styles]

Nah that Minato SM was foreshadowed when Naruto mastered his SM. That's not a plot hole.

#4 not even a plot hole at that time Sasuke was gonna be his new vessel at that time(before Sasuke was late) the sound 4 don't even know what and which mask to get since it was a wall full of them.

#3 not an plot hole either. Better chakra control. Getting use to his MS. Naruto/Kurama replenished his chakra like 2 times. And food pills.

#2 the dude just said how Obito survived that rock lol he kamui'd his body. But like Sasuke Obito supposedly didn't know of his MS until Kakashi "killed" rin.

#1 neither of them are plot holes and Sakura couldn't use her seal vs pain because she was still storing chakra in that spot.

 

[Im Still Robin]

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[Monxstaa]

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[Umari Senju]

The only one I could kind of counter is the Kamui one. Hashi cells I suppose negate the whole going blind thing. And Kakashi really only started spamming Kamui after Kurama took over Naruto's body for that brief moment and slipped him a kyuubi chakra roofie.

But that's all I got lol.

 

[ChicagoJhawk]

My biggest gripes with plot holes comes from edo tensei. There is so much inconsistency caused by that one jutsu

 

[Dizzldot]

My biggest gripes with plot holes comes from edo tensei. There is so much inconsistency caused by that one jutsu

Facts

 

[Zawerni]

Minato having Sage Mode isn't a plot hole.

Fukasaku has met Minato. He's most likely been to Myoboku at least once, especially when Jiraiya believed him to be the Child of Prophecy Gamamaru talked about. Him being a "Perfect Sage" just means he's able to handle Nature Energy without going through any obvious toad transformations. Minato says himself he's not good at gathering the NE, because you have to remain still to do so. Minato's fighting style is the opposite of sitting still.

Orochimaru not retrieving the mask early isn't a plot hole.

How would the Sound 4 know which mask to take?

Kakashi had his chakra refilled several times by Kurama.

Kakashi already used his Kamui on himself to warp out of Kamui a couple times. Madara doing it isn't a plot hole.

Obito not using his Mangekyo to use Kamui was to keep his identity "secret". If we saw the Mangekyo from behind the mask, it would instantly give away who he was. (Even though it may have already been obvious). After the mask broke, he used Mangekyo every time.

His eyes not bleeding is due to less strain on the eyes. It means Kamui is not as taxing on the eye as something like Amaterasu.

Him not going blind could be because of Hashirama's cells, or because of the lack of severe strain on his eyes. We don't know if Obito's vision is still perfect or if his eyes are blurred but not completely blind yet.

It's an anime. In real life, yes Obito would die. In an anime, characters can take severe amounts of damage and still walk away from it. No it wasn't Kamui, though. That would require Obito to have his Mangekyo, which he didn't at that time.

Again, it's an anime. People pull powerups from their ass all the time. Nothing new. Kurama's chakra reserves are massive. No surprise, he's the strongest Tailed Beast (a living chakra battery). Also chakra will naturally replenish itself. It's not like people have a chakra limit and then no more chakra forever once you use it. Naruto and Sasuke defeating Obito was a combination of using Senjutsu, the only attacks that worked on him, and Naruto taking the Bijuu chakra from him. Several times in the series people magically know how to use their new powers right after getting them, specifically Uchiha and their eyehax. Nothing new there either.

Kakashi's perfect Susano'o is pure asspull. Indra and his reincarnates never whipped out a Perfect Susano'o first try.

 

[Umari Senju]

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Minato having Sage Mode isn't a plot hole.

Fukasaku has met Minato. He's most likely been to Myoboku at least once, especially when Jiraiya believed him to be the Child of Prophecy Gamamaru talked about. Him being a "Perfect Sage" just means he's able to handle Nature Energy without going through any obvious toad transformations. Minato says himself he's not good at gathering the NE, because you have to remain still to do so. Minato's fighting style is the opposite of sitting still.

Orochimaru not retrieving the mask early isn't a plot hole.

How would the Sound 4 know which mask to take?

Kakashi had his chakra refilled several times by Kurama.

Kakashi already used his Kamui on himself to warp out of Kamui a couple times. Madara doing it isn't a plot hole.

Obito not using his Mangekyo to use Kamui was to keep his identity "secret". If we saw the Mangekyo from behind the mask, it would instantly give away who he was. (Even though it may have already been obvious). After the mask broke, he used Mangekyo every time.

His eyes not bleeding is due to less strain on the eyes. It means Kamui is not as taxing on the eye as something like Amaterasu.

Him not going blind could be because of Hashirama's cells, or because of the lack of severe strain on his eyes. We don't know if Obito's vision is still perfect or if his eyes are blurred but not completely blind yet.

It's an anime. In real life, yes Obito would die. In an anime, characters can take severe amounts of damage and still walk away from it. No it wasn't Kamui, though. That would require Obito to have his Mangekyo, which he didn't at that time.

Again, it's an anime. People pull powerups from their ass all the time. Nothing new. Kurama's chakra reserves are massive. No surprise, he's the strongest Tailed Beast (a living chakra battery). Also chakra will naturally replenish itself. It's not like people have a chakra limit and then no more chakra forever once you use it. Naruto and Sasuke defeating Obito was a combination of using Senjutsu, the only attacks that worked on him, and Naruto taking the Bijuu chakra from him. Several times in the series people magically know how to use their new powers right after getting them, specifically Uchiha and their eyehax. Nothing new there either.

Kakashi's perfect Susano'o is pure asspull. Indra and his reincarnates never whipped out a Perfect Susano'o first try.

Did you guys even listen to the dude in the vid?! He isn't calling Minato having Sage mode the plothole. He said the fact that he didn't use it during the kyuubi attack on the village to save his wife was the plothole. My god people pay attention :kk:

 

[Zawerni]

Did you guys even listen to the dude in the vid?! He isn't calling Minato having Sage mode the plothole. He said the fact that he didn't use it during the kyuubi attack on the village to save his wife was the plothole. My god people pay attention :kk:

"#5 Sage Mode Minato"

"So this is a pretty simple plot hole to explain, simply because Minato either should not be able to use Sage Mode..."

He starts out by saying Minato should not be able to use Sage Mode, then questions why Minato didn't use it during the Nine Tails attack.

I answered both of those by saying Minato using Sage Mode isn't a plot hole, and him not using it during the Nine Tails attack is because he wasn't good at using it.

My god people pay attention. :kk:

 

[Styles]

Did you guys even listen to the dude in the vid?! He isn't calling Minato having Sage mode the plothole. He said the fact that he didn't use it during the kyuubi attack on the village to save his wife was the plothole. My god people pay attention :kk:

And what would that SM do exactly? Nothing his best bet was FTG which he used and barely won because he was a second faster.

 

[SenseiSama]

There's no such thing as plot holes in this manga, things are either asspulls or backed by evidence

 

[SixPathsMike101]

Nah that Minato SM was foreshadowed when Naruto mastered his SM. That's not a plot hole.

#4 not even a plot hole at that time Sasuke was gonna be his new vessel at that time(before Sasuke was late) the sound 4 don't even know what and which mask to get since it was a wall full of them.

#3 not an plot hole either. Better chakra control. Getting use to his MS. Naruto/Kurama replenished his chakra like 2 times. And food pills.

#2 the dude just said how Obito survived that rock lol he kamui'd his body. But like Sasuke Obito supposedly didn't know of his MS until Kakashi "killed" rin.

#1 neither of them are plot holes and Sakura couldn't use her seal vs pain because she was still storing chakra in that spot.

Sound stuff but i gotta see manga facts on #2

 

[SixPathsMike101]

Minato not using sage mode isn't a plot hole, he said he doesn;t like sage mode because he isn't proficient with it

 

[Avani]

Did you guys even listen to the dude in the vid?! He isn't calling Minato having Sage mode the plothole. He said the fact that he didn't use it during the kyuubi attack on the village to save his wife was the plothole. My god people pay attention :kk:

First off - Not using a specific tech at a specific time is not called " plothole". It's all "maybe it would have been turned out better" speculation and nothing more.

He didn't use because either he hadn't mastered it yet, or it didn't suit him, or because he didn't think he needed it", or he simply had a personal fighting style developed and didn't rely on the SM because it requires you to sit still for a time and he wasn't a jinchuriki like Naruto at the time. Toad SM is not that good unless you have someone storing chakra for you or you can have a time out to store enough of it or could draw upon a bijju or you prefect it like Naruto.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Did you guys even listen to the dude in the vid?! He isn't calling Minato having Sage mode the plothole. He said the fact that he didn't use it during the kyuubi attack on the village to save his wife was the plothole. My god people pay attention :kk:

Minato said his SM sucks and he takes too long for it. To combat Obito he needed speed so that's why he didn't use SM

 

[SenseiSama]

Did you guys even listen to the dude in the vid?! He isn't calling Minato having Sage mode the plothole. He said the fact that he didn't use it during the kyuubi attack on the village to save his wife was the plothole. My god people pay attention :kk:

And this is where the guy missed the point, Minato not using SM isn't a plothole because him having SM was an asspull to begin with :lol

 

[Styles]

Sound stuff but i gotta see manga facts on #2

When Madara said Obito's body fazed threw the rock. It was kamui that's kinda the only ability that allows that. Though his arm and stuff was missing a bit. But he still kumui'd into Madara's hideout.

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