But Obito actually should be able to camp in TSB shield since his sensory powers would easily let him know where sasuke is and sasuke can't amenoo obito if he's hidden behind the TSB he needs to have a clear sight at him at least imo. And yeah sasuke can amenoo out of a barrier to dodge the juubidama's but eventually his eye powers will fade I say obito outlasts and when sasuke overuses his eyes obito slays him since obito wont die from any attack of sasuke's
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Nothing in the Manga implies that. He can switch with anything or switch anything within his range. Obito being hidden from his line of sight doesn't mean that Obito isn't in his range. Not to mention Sasuke was looking straight at Naruto when he warped Kaguya and when he warped Madara so there's no way what you are saying is true.
And his eye powers fading won't be an issue when the only time Sasuke needs to use it is to hit Obito, and as already explained he can't do anything about that. So there is no outlasting. "Won't die from any attack of Sasuke's" is false. If a Chidori w/ the power and size of Naruto's Bijuu Dama rams into Obito he'll be ripped to pieces. He's not immortal either.
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No, he's not merged with it. He has the Juubi in him only.
-Obito absorbs the Juubi.
-Obito released Juubi.
-Juubi evolves to it's final form due to gaining enough power. Shinju.
-Madara then absorbs that Shinju and becomes immortal.
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How can you unrestrict Obito, but not Sasuke. You want him to lose that badly? Even without those powers, Sasuke still tanks him. His other Rinnegan abilities plus Perfect Susanoo would slaughter Obito.
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No senjutsu means that Susano'o gets disintegrated upon contact with Obito's truthseekers and a slash can't penetrate Obito's shield outright even if it did. Perfect Susano'o won't be intact after Ten Tails' Bijudama, so it obviously loses. Pointless thread.
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Thesages why is that everytime you post something about Sasuke I don't like it.
I'm pretty sure Sasuke has senjutsu.
It's why he could damage the JJ body. Remember Tobirama, Naruto and Sasuke noted how the rasengan actually damaged Juubito's body and the jutsu worked. They weren't talking about the tsb. I don't think Sasuke would go to Madara and fight him if he knew Madara could negate any of his techniques, then he would've seeked Juugo to fight Madara or ask Naruto for some sage chakra or inform Naruto he lacks senjutsu.
Sasuke said being blessed with six path powers allowed him to touch the tsb and he mentions the same thing when he made his black chidori (which only turns black when there is senjutsu). I don't think losing the moon seal made him lose his six paths power since Sasuke nor kishi makes any focus on the seal as the reason Sasuke can touch the tsb (which is a result of six paths power).
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Sasuke could sense nature energy at VOTE 2 and do that you need to have control and some prowess over it. For example, Naruto in an imperfect SM already started to sense Nature energy (btw he lifted a huge stone statue later as a sign he was enhanced) and when he mastered it he felt the presence of nature.
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Before you bring that scan of base minato sensing Madara's power, he never said he sensed NE but sage power. Who knows he could mean Madara had some sort of particular chakra that he dubs sage power but whatever he sensed must have been diffirent from NE. The manga has established you need to control NE to sense it, that's why Naruto only could guage the Juubi's power in SM.
The db4 said those who use six path CT have six paths senjutsu aweakened within them.
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Yeah I agree bijuu bomb blows up PS to smithereens.
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The author isn't retarded in that at one moment, he'll draw how Jubi's host is damaged from Ninjutsu as the
Rikudou's power is divided to two ingredient: Rinnegan and Rikudou Senjutsu. Sasuke benefited the Rinnegan and Naruto benefited Rikudou Senjutsu.
You're posting scans with empty comprehension.
Stomp thread, tbh. You can't pin a Jubi's Jinchuriki with someone of EMS Madara's level. Sasuke can't bypass the Onmyouton shield, unless this is Sasuke with the Yin Seal that he can manually draw from, then he can. Biju Dama nukes his Perfect Susanoo and his organs are splashed all over the ground. Cutting the tree only automatically detonates the TBB, so this isn't a counter.
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outright shows and then in another moment will have character say something in contradictory. Context is important. When Tobirama says only Senjutsu can hurt him, he means that Senjutsu is needed to bypass his defense first before hurting him directly, which for the latter, Senjutsu is no longer a necessary component, because we actually saw Jubi's host damaged from normal Ninjutsu. Rikudou's power is divided to two ingredient: Rinnegan and Rikudou Senjutsu. Sasuke benefited the Rinnegan and Naruto benefited Rikudou Senjutsu.
You're posting scans with empty comprehension.
Stomp thread, tbh. You can't pin a Jubi's Jinchuriki with someone of EMS Madara's level. Sasuke can't bypass the Onmyouton shield, unless this is Sasuke with the Yin Seal that he can manually draw from, then he can. Biju Dama nukes his Perfect Susanoo and his organs are splashed all over the ground. Cutting the tree only automatically detonates the TBB, so this isn't a counter.
Those Juubidama would still hit sasuke due to their blast radius. and even an indirect hit one shots
And teleporting them to obito won't work when they're 4 of them. And he can negate any damage they deal on his shield
Agreed
Issue mainly lies on Juubidama
Sasuke might not be able to counter all 4.
If he swaps with one, then the other 3 can still land and hit him due to their vast AOE. Especially if obito shoots them downwards to ensure they don't just travel away
PS-Chidori might not bust the TSB shield either, when BSM TBB/Susnaoo arrow only cracked a shield from one.
So you would need atleast something on the level of 9 TBB to one shot it. Even then it's iffy when one of the TBB couldn't accomplish that
PS-Chidori may not pack that much power
If PS-Chdori can bust the shield and finish obito before the bombs are prepped then he wins
Otherwise he may lose
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Lmao. I said Sasuke warps to Obito and kills him before they even become a factor or if Obito balls up in the Gudo Dama Sasuke warps him out and then pierces him, not that he warps them to Obito or warps Obito. Meaning whether or not they can tank Chidori doesn't become relevant.
And a BSM TBB and Susanoo Arrow together are far far below Naruto's RSM BD, half of that explosion is stronger than BM Naruto's Flash BD or at least on the same level. PS Chidori is that power but focused. So if it doesn't rip through in one go it will do some heavy damage.
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This has nothing to do with me hating the character if that's what you're implying. If people constantly put Konohamaru against Kaguya or anyone that's far above his level, would I be biased for saying that Konohamaru dies every time?
Enton clearly left Obito's body smoking with the need to regenerate. Just from that alone, you should be able to deduce that Tobirama's statement wasn't about simply piercing the skin.
One can simply say that Ten Tails' jinchuriki can regenerate the damage easier from ninjutsu than senjutsu, hence the discrepancy between Enton and Sage Naruto's Rasengan despite Obito needing to regenerate in both cases.
Obito had to shield himself from his own non-senjutsu Bijudama otherwise he would've been reduced to ash, so he isn't immune to regular chakra, only his truthseekers are.
If Obito's body was left smoking from enton, normal Chidori would run right through him or any Ten Tails' jinchuriki.
If Sasuke's Chidori turns black with senjutsu, then how are you claiming that his blue Chidori possesses this chakra?
Do you realize how little sense that makes? Why would the author do that if apparently all of his Chidori were Sage powered?
Touching truthseekers is something that anyone can do if the user doesn't want to actively erase something, hence why Tobirama was able to grab it.
Sensing natural energy isn't something that requires any Sage chakra to do.
I'm referring to Fukasaku's statement which states that sensing the flow of natural energy is independent of taking it in, hence anyone in their base forms can do it if they are trained in the art of Sage power.
Adapting to the curse seal and interaction with Hagoromo's Six Paths seal power gives Sasuke all of the "training" necessary.
There isn't anything implying that he has senjutsu, especially when we can literally see the chakra he is using. We can visually see that he isn't using senjutsu.
In the case of Naruto needing Sage mode to sense Ten Tails, it's natural energy isn't flowing around the environment. It's limited to it's own body.
Sasuke did possess Six Paths Senjutsu in the seal that Hagoromo gave him. It's called the Six Paths Power of Shadow.
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Ok, but I fail to see how sasuke can warp Juubito out, if he's camped in TSB shield
Never said that the bold are on the same level
Only that it's unlikely for PS-Chidori to bust a shield of all 9 when a shied from just one tanked BSM TBB and a susanoo arrow only with some cracks
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Sasuke can warp anything in his range. Obito is in his range regardless of a dome being wrapped around him.
And I never stated you did. That was clearly just me making an observation to support the point that Gudo Dama is going to take heavy damage or get a hole in it from a piercing attack several levels above it. Not to mention it didn't tank it with cracks, it got a hole in it.
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You guys are overrating Obitos TSB. Narutos lava Rasenshruiken cut through Shinju, a stronger TSB, and a stronger JJ all in one go. Sasuke's PS slash is easily stronger than that attack, so Obito has to use the full shield to not get cleaved at the least, but even then PS slash does significant damage since it can destroy 1/9th in one attack.
PS chidori plows right through the shield
PS chidori plows right through the shield
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What are you talking about?
1. Shinju is pointless to mention unless it obtained durability feats surpassing that of the Gudo Dama.
2. Cutting through Madara is pointless to mention unless Madara became more durable than the Gudo Dama, especially since it didn't even cut through him. It left a gash in his stomach.
3. And lmao it obviously didn't cut through any Gudo Dama as Madara had no Gudo Dama at the time.
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What are you talking about?
Madara summons a TSB and morphed it into a staff to block Narutos initial punch. He then blocked Lava rasenshruiken with the same staff and got drug all the across shinju, ending with Madara laying on the grounded bisected along with his his staff and shinju being cut in half as well
Madara and the shinju are just to prove that it's power doesn't stop at destroying a TSB as everything it came in contact with got cut as well not just the TSB