DRSM Madara or Rinnegan Sasuke

[Dizzldot]

I feel like it is widely believe by sasuke fans that Rinnegan sasuke at VOTE2>DRSM Madara

Can anyone give valid reasons to this WITHOUT bringing up JJ madara since that was a 2v1
From my point of view Madara takes it because of the follow
1. Limbo all using susanoo
2. Wood style
3. All rinnegan techs (I don't believe sasuke's rinnegan being from the sage makes it more powerful when the sage said Madara made his chakra by mixing indra and asura therefore awakening it while sasuke only got the yin half)
4. Sage mode enhancements to all powers
5. Hashi healing factor
6. PS seemed to be much larger
7. Can summon meteors
8. Chakra reserves are definitely larger than sasuke's at this point

 

[JStar King]

So, you want us to explain why VOTE 2 Sasuke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DRSM Madara.......even though he was mostly focused on Sasuke in chapter 674, because it was Sasuke who gave him the most trouble. Sasuke chopped him in half and made him run. He made Madara so desperate that Madara was forced to take Obito's eye from Kakashi

:|

I mean, damn. Is your hate for Sasuke so strong that you want to refuse everything and nerf the hell out of him like in you Raikage vs MS Sasuke thread? If it's VOTE 2 Sasuke with the Bijuu Perfect Susanoo, then Madara would've got destroyed with ease.

 

[KidGamer65]

If you think that Sasuke got half of Hagoromo's chakra added to his reserves then he stomps. If you don't then Madara is stronger.

and Limbo using Susanoo is based on little to nothing.

 

[Dizzldot]

So, you want us to explain why VOTE 2 Sasuke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DRSM Madara.......even though he was mostly focused on Sasuke in chapter 674, because it was Sasuke who gave him the most trouble. Sasuke chopped him in half and made him run. He made Madara so desperate that Madara was forced to take Obito's eye from Kakashi

:|

I mean, damn. Is your hate for Sasuke so strong that you want to refuse everything and nerf the hell out of him like in you Raikage vs MS Sasuke thread? If it's VOTE 2 Sasuke with the Bijuu Perfect Susanoo, then Madara would've got destroyed with ease.

@Bold Madara could probably do that as well but yes he would win if he had that and madara didnt just noticed your whole statement is bold, thats pertaining to bijuu susanoo

I literally don't hate sasuke at all wtf if you're gunna act like a butthurt salty fap because I made a VS thread that is still going hot where I put a second scenario where he had his susanoo then get out. I didnt nerf him more than any restriction in any other vs thread does don't be butthurt because the overwhelming majority said he loses jeez answer the damn question or leave
BTW ill just laugh at that made madara desperate part
Seriously though chill with the tapping like I took away 1 jutsu from MS sauske in the versus thread when people have taken away way mores and you're pissy cause it means he loses without one power, so you're conceding that his surviving was an asspull power up?

 

[Dizzldot]

If you think that Sasuke got half of Hagoromo's chakra added to his reserves then he stomps. If you don't then Madara is stronger.

and Limbo using Susanoo is based on little to nothing.

Thanks for a real response, and @Bold I thought limbo was able to use every power the main body can use?
Also, getting half his chakra wouldn't really matter because Madara has both halves right? maybe not the full thing but in quality it wouldn't matter along with amdara already showing his reserves were massive from his VOTE battle with hashi

 

[Mishima]

1. Limbo all using susanoo

Manga scan? And please don't bring Storm 4.

2. Wood style

Is dealt with by Enton.

3. All rinnegan techs (I don't believe sasuke's rinnegan being from the sage makes it more powerful when the sage said Madara made his chakra by mixing indra and asura therefore awakening it while sasuke only got the yin half)

JJ Madara was canonically unable to react to Sasuke's Ameno. JJ Madara sensing>>DRSM sensing

5. Hashi healing factor

Doesn't save him from being chopped in half.

6. PS seemed to be much larger

2016 and people are still spewing this nonsense :lol. The manga already showed Sasuke's PS to superior. On top of that, Sasuke received 50% of Hagoromo's chakra, putting his PS above Madara's.

7. Can summon meteors

Have been dealt with as seen in canon.

8. Chakra reserves are definitely larger than sasuke's at this point

Based on nothing.

 

[Ansatsuken]

That DRSM Madara

 

[Zawerni]

So, you want us to explain why VOTE 2 Sasuke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DRSM Madara.......even though he was mostly focused on Sasuke in chapter 674, because it was Sasuke who gave him the most trouble. Sasuke chopped him in half and made him run. He made Madara so desperate that Madara was forced to take Obito's eye from Kakashi

Madara was already planning to take back his Rinnegan before Rikudo Naruto and Sasuke showed up. Claiming Sasuke made Madara "desperate" for his other eye is ridiculous.

Also Sasuke faps love to bring up the bisection. Please tell me what that accomplished. :lol

Sasuke did not inconvenience Madara in any way at all. Madara still got the Sharingan. He still entered Kamui. He floated in front of Obito like nothing was wrong. And he emerged from Kamui with both Rinnegan and his body fully regenerated and in tact. Sasuke's attack was worthless.

Stop using that as any form of argument against Madara. :lol

I'm not hating on Sasuke, either. But let's not overplay his actions here.

 

[Dizzldot]

Manga scan? And please don't bring Storm 4.

Is dealt with by Enton.


JJ Madara was canonically unable to react to Sasuke's Ameno. JJ Madara sensing>>DRSM sensing


Doesn't save him from being chopped in half.


2016 and people are still spewing this nonsense :lol. The manga already showed Sasuke's PS to superior. On top of that, Sasuke received 50% of Hagoromo's chakra, putting his PS above Madara's.


Have been dealt with as seen in canon.


Based on nothing.

answered the bold in above reply, The 50% hagoromo chakra making his PS superior when Madara has both indra and ashura chakra isn't factual at all thats an assumption, Enton can't burn wood that bast tbh it burns very slow,Agreed with chopping in half and sensing

 

[JStar King]

Haters are always thirsty to bash and downplay Sasuke. This dude actually tried to give Madara's Limbo clones PS

 

[KidGamer65]

Thanks for a real response, and @Bold I thought limbo was able to use every power the main body can use?
Also, getting half his chakra wouldn't really matter because Madara has both halves right? maybe not the full thing but in quality it wouldn't matter along with amdara already showing his reserves were massive from his VOTE battle with hashi

Nah. It's only ever been shown to use Taijutsu. If Limbo could use every jutsu the original could then Sasuke would definitely lose against Madara.

Madara merged Indra and Asura's chakras to get Hagoromo's chakra to obtain Rinnegan. Sasuke got his from the source and the buff in his abilities is greater than what Madara showed when he was alive. The quality might be the same, but the one who obtains more will get a bigger boost kind of like how a drop of red food coloring won't do as much to the water as pouring an entire container full of the stuff inside the water.

And there's no way he'd have more chakra. Half of Hagoromo's chakra is superior to what he got from awakening Rinnegan and I don't think the gap between Madara w/ Hashirama's cells and Sasuke pre Hagoromo is large enough to change that.

 

[Styles]

Sasuke will win against any Madara unless it's double Rinnegan JJ Madara with Shinju because of immortality.

 

[Dizzldot]

Haters are always thirsty to bash and downplay Sasuke. This dude actually tried to give Madara's Limbo clones PS

IF you're going to be salty go get a life if sasuke means that much to you this is a character comparison jeez

 

[Dizzldot]

Nah. It's only ever been shown to use Taijutsu. If Limbo could use every jutsu the original could then Sasuke would definitely lose against Madara.

Madara merged Indra and Asura's chakras to get Hagoromo's chakra to obtain Rinnegan. Sasuke got his from the source and the buff in his abilities is greater than what Madara showed when he was alive. The quality might be the same, but the one who obtains more will get a bigger boost kind of like how a drop of red food coloring won't do as much to the water as pouring an entire container full of the stuff inside the water.

And there's no way he'd have more chakra. Half of Hagoromo's chakra is superior to what he got from awakening Rinnegan and I don't think the gap between Madara w/ Hashirama's cells and Sasuke pre Hagoromo is large enough to change that.

Not trying to call you out but didnt you just argue in a vs thread that Limbo can use all powers madara can? Even without susanoo that would be a pain to deal with.
I partially agree with the rest But I HONESTLY do not see how sasuke would be superior in anyway except I guess chakra quantity if he did get an entire half of hago's chakra

 

[JStar King]

Sasuke will win against any Madara unless it's double Rinnegan JJ Madara with Shinju because of immortality.

What if it's Double Rinnegan JJ Madara vs VOTE 2 Sasuke (Bijuu Susanoo). That would be an awesome fight to see.

 

[KidGamer65]

Not trying to call you out but didnt you just argue in a vs thread that Limbo can use all powers madara can? Even without susanoo that would be a pain to deal with.
I partially agree with the rest But I HONESTLY do not see how sasuke would be superior in anyway except I guess chakra quantity if he did get an entire half of hago's chakra

Because OP said they can for his thread. Normally there is nothing to support that being the case, and the fact that they only use Taijutsu is pretty damning for that argument. And without Susanoo they are only threats when Sasuke himself isn't protected by Susanoo. Otherwise


If he did get half of Hagoromo's chakra:

-Superior Susanoo due to superior chakra. Even if they were equal Sasuke has Chidori and Madara only has his blades.
-They both have all the Rinnegan techs, so that cancels out for the most part.
-In CQC Sasuke is far superior due to Ameno. With a simple distraction he can tag RSM Naruto so DRSM Madara won't react properly nor will he tank a Chidori to the heart.

 

[Mishima]

answered the bold in above reply, The 50% hagoromo chakra making his PS superior when Madara has both indra and ashura chakra isn't factual at all thats an assumption, Enton can't burn wood that bast tbh it burns very slow,Agreed with chopping in half and sensing

Literally nothing from the manga implies Limbo can use Susanoo. Madara only mixed a small portion of Ashura's chakra with his own, resulting in the Rinnegan. Whereas, Sasuke received 50% of chakra from Hagoromo himself. Stronger chakra = stronger jutsu, that's the same reason why Sasuke's now able to bust meteors with Chidori while Kakakshi can't with a Lighting Blade. Sand=/=Wood. If Sasuke's Enton was cutting through solid ice, then it shouldn't have a problem cutting through wood :lol

 

[Dizzldot]

Because OP said they can for his thread. Normally there is nothing to support that being the case, and the fact that they only use Taijutsu is pretty damning for that argument. And without Susanoo they are only threats when Sasuke himself isn't protected by Susanoo. Otherwise


If he did get half of Hagoromo's chakra:

-Superior Susanoo due to superior chakra. Even if they were equal Sasuke has Chidori and Madara only has his blades.
-They both have all the Rinnegan techs, so that cancels out for the most part.
-In CQC Sasuke is far superior due to Ameno. With a simple distraction he can tag RSM Naruto so DRSM Madara won't react properly nor will he tank a Chidori to the heart.

@Bold, My problem with arguing like that means that I could say because JJ madara didnt use susanoo at all when it would've been beneficial then he can't use it since he's a JJ which is baseless besides saying he didnt use it after he could use it when he wasn't a JJ.

The superior chakra argument idk because Madara has natural energy buffing it along with Indra+ashura's chakra while also having a copy of hagoromo's in turn from that. But for the sake of the argument Ill give that to sasuke because he did get it directly from hago but I'm not completely convinced one half>the two parts of the whole
I agree with the rinne techs canceling besides ameno and Limbo which I think limbo is the perfect defense because Madara can switch with the limbo so if sasuke ameno chidori's him he may be able to switch wight he limbo and have it absorb the damage instead
In cqc I dont agree entirely, Madara's CQC is top notch, yes sasuke has ameno but that has limited uses while limbo's duration is much longer and recharges quickly

 

[Im Still Robin]

@Bold Madara could probably do that as well but yes he would win if he had that and madara didnt just noticed your whole statement is bold, thats pertaining to bijuu susanoo

I literally don't hate sasuke at all wtf if you're gunna act like a butthurt salty fap because I made a VS thread that is still going hot where I put a second scenario where he had his susanoo then get out. I didnt nerf him more than any restriction in any other vs thread does don't be butthurt because the overwhelming majority said he loses jeez answer the damn question or leave
BTW ill just laugh at that made madara desperate part
Seriously though chill with the tapping like I took away 1 jutsu from MS sauske in the versus thread when people have taken away way mores and you're pissy cause it means he loses without one power, so you're conceding that his surviving was an asspull power up?

Lol all of it is bold.

OT: Why does it matter? Current Sasuke is the strongest to date.

 

[Yang release]

Sasuke takes this because of his six path chakra and his Amaterasu is a counter to wood style he can ameno chidori limbo clones and etc