Just how strong is Zamasu?

[Deadmed]

Zamasu was getting beaten by SS2 Goku right? Doesn't that put him below Buu?

 

[SusanooGodEgde]

At that point in time yes but now he has goku and vegeta in SSB fighting for their lives.

 

[Guntah]

SS3 Goku was wrecked by Beerus only for post God-ki Goku to keep up with 70% Beerus with normal Super Saiyan.

Clearly, power levels have changes since Goku's fight with Buu

 

[Amazeballs]

At that point in time yes but now he has goku and vegeta in SSB fighting for their lives.

It's pretty inconsistent, with the regular Zamasu being able to wear out fighters on SSB Goku's level just because he's "immortal" despite having a power-level lower than SS2. You'd think that Goku wouldn't have to exert any energy to fight someone like that, but the show is trying to maintain the "power-level hype" that fans love while also allowing other characters to feel relevant in battles. Same reason why we're seeing techniques like the Mafuba return, as well as other weird powers such as dimension-splitting / time-stopping / etc, as well as characters like Bulma being central to the plot. DBS is trying to break the cycle where, by the end of DBZ, almost no one was relevant unless they were one of the main Super Saiyans.

 

[00Rinne]

I honestly believe SS2 Trunks could handle Zamasu if not for Immortality. Trunks outclassed him in every clash they've had..

He's just a Kio-shin an they're not very strong, it's just they're like royalty so there's a high respect lvl for them..

 

[InfiniteMugen]

I honestly believe SS2 Trunks could handle Zamasu if not for Immortality. Trunks outclassed him in every clash they've had..

He's just a Kio-shin an they're not very strong, it's just they're like royalty so there's a high respect lvl for them..

This, immortal zamasu seems weaker than black, the only thing that kept him alive was immortality. Zamasu before they fused was probably weaker(straight power level wise) than all 3 of them, black in ssj rose form seemed to be the only one they where really worried about imo

 

[patrickscott]

If Janemba and Buu fused. Zamasu's power level is about that. Whatever it would be.

 

[Jiren]

Zamasu is weaker than ssj2 teen gohan imo. but now he's OP and I totally called them fusing.

 

[Jokule67]

Its because Goku recieved training. His Forms are higher.

Also Saiyans power are relative and mostly subject to their emotions. Thats why Trunks is so strong right now. They put HIGE emphasis on Saiyans increasing their battle strength through emotion.

Also, DBS is more realistic now. Its no longer achieve a new form and you're unbeatable. If your power level is high enough you can stand somewhat of a chance but in the end its pointless because Trunks lost anyway until he achieved true power that rivaled Goku Blacks.

From the start Trunks was always stronger than Zamasu.

 

[BlacLord™]

SS3 Goku was wrecked by Beerus only for post God-ki Goku to keep up with 70% Beerus with normal Super Saiyan.

Clearly, power levels have changes since Goku's fight with Buu

Exactly.

The SSJ2 Goku that fought Zamasu was actually SBG SSJ2, because his body absorbed and uses god ki now. Not to mention all the training Goku's done.

Besides, was Zamasu even serious against Goku in that clash? I can't remember.

 

[EZQ]

Saiyan beyond god was totally retconned people. Toriyama or Toei do not longer pretend to make Base goku or Vegeta close to SSGod level. Goku's ss2 = Trunk's ss2, and trunks is not a saiyan beyond god.

 

[Tyris]

Lord Gohan is stronger. he just needs to get his eeight back up.

Super is trash.

 

[Deadmed]

SS3 Goku was wrecked by Beerus only for post God-ki Goku to keep up with 70% Beerus with normal Super Saiyan.

Clearly, power levels have changes since Goku's fight with Buu

Who said Goku used God Ki against Zamasu though? Maybe he used normal SS? I say this because SS2 Future Trunks with no God Ki kept up with SS3 Goku so I don't think he used God Ki there either. There's no way SS2 Trunks is on the level of a Super Saiyan God before his recent power up.

 

[Son Wukong]

Stronger than Beerus most likely.