Who is the strongest opponent Hidan can beat?

[Booker]

Assume it is a fair match-up with no restrictions.

Hidan and his opponent start at 25 meters.

Location is Gaara v Kimmimaro.

Who is the absolute strongest opponent Hidan can beat?

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INB4 Asuma

 

[BLAZE]

rock Lee eh

 

[ToshiZO]

With no intel? I can think of Kisame off the top of my head.

Otherwise: Gai (don't want to argue Hirudora so lets make it 6 gates).

 

[The Messiah]

With no intel? I can think of Kisame off the top of my head.

Otherwise: Gai (don't want to argue Hirudora so lets make it 6 gates).

So you think Kisame without Intel loses to Hidan ?

 

[ToshiZO]

So you think Kisame without Intel loses to Hidan ?

Yeah.

We know Kisame always loves to start his fights in CQC, pretty much every fight. That spells his death against Hidan.

Asuma someone who couldn't touch Hidan with Shikamaru's help.

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Was trading blows with Kisame in CQC and managed to draw blood.

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Pretty much guaranteed Hidan draws blood, he can even use a tactic where he takes an attack for a surprise (not that its needed he should be able to outright draw blood in CQC considering Asuma could).

When he gets Kisame's blood its GG from there, Kisame has no idea about the ritual doesn't even know what to look for, and he is on the ground dead before he even realizes it.

 

[The Messiah]

Yeah.

We know Kisame always loves to start his fights in CQC, pretty much every fight. That spells his death against Hidan.

Asuma someone who couldn't touch Hidan with Shikamaru's help.

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Was trading blows with Kisame in CQC and managed to draw blood.

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Pretty much guaranteed Hidan draws blood, he can even use a tactic where he takes an attack for a surprise (not that its needed he should be able to outright draw blood in CQC considering Asuma could).

When he gets Kisame's blood its GG from there, Kisame has no idea about the ritual doesn't even know what to look for, and he is on the ground dead before he even realizes it.

Damn. Hidan is an extremely dangerous mofo without intel on his abilities.

 

[BLAZE]

so part 1 kisame =part 2 kisame.wew lad

didn't he dodge bee's pencil from point blank

 

[ToshiZO]

so part 1 kisame =part 2 kisame.wew lad

didn't he dodge bee's pencil from point blank

I fail to realize how Kisame a 30 year old man well in his prime got any "faster" or better in CQC in 2 years.

But even assuming he did, I already said all Hidan would have to do is surprise him, by tanking a blow to land a blow. Not that hard.

 

[BLAZE]

I fail to realize how Kisame a 30 year old man well in his prime got any "faster" or better in CQC in 2 years.

Part 1 base kakashi=Part 2 base kakashi

how can a 30 y.o ninja get faster.wew lad

 

[ToshiZO]

Part 1 base kakashi=Part 2 base kakashi

how can a 30 y.o ninja get faster.wew lad

Is he? I don't know we hardly see base Kakashi fight serious so...yea.

Glad you couldn't add anything to the actual relevant point anyways which is Hidan draws blood. Btw I thought you had me on the ignore list eh? You gonna have this thread deleted as well?

 

[BLAZE]

Is he? I don't know we hardly see base Kakashi fight serious so...yea.

right :lol despite he got one up in DB from Zabuza arc;despite the fact he was keeping up with Akatsuki and jins in part 2 while needing hounds to land hit on Zabuza in part 1

Glad you couldn't add anything to the actual relevant point anyways which is Hidan draws blood.

hidan gets trashed as simple as that
he is becoming dinner for kisame's sharks

Btw I thought you had me on the ignore list eh? You gonna have this thread deleted as well?

U think and believe way too many bullshits not my problem
I m not a mod
Edit:about ignore list yeah sadly got you out since I was reading OP thread and it was frustrating to read it that way

 

[ToshiZO]

hidan gets trashed as simple as that
he is becoming dinner for kisame's sharks

This is supposed to be a counter? Lmao....not bothering with you.

Edit:about ignore list yeah sadly got you out since I was reading OP thread and it was frustrating to read it that way

Please do me a favour and put me back on it.

 

[BLAZE]

thats ur fanfic not mine that kisame engages only in cqc with hidan
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Please do me a favour and put me back on it.

this guy
stop quoting then

 

[Anbu Knights]

Hidan getting blood from Kisame and creating a ritual circle before

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probably isn't likely. Once he shifts the terrain to all water Hidan is harmless, as he cannot form blood rituals on top of water.

Also Guy murders Hidan, especially in the upper gates.

 

[ToshiZO]

Hidan getting blood from Kisame and creating a ritual circle before

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probably isn't likely. Once he shifts the terrain to all water Hidan is harmless, as he cannot form blood rituals on top of water.

Kisame engages in CQC in almost every scenario. Especially in a 1v1 where he doesn't need to deal with multiple characters. Asuma and Killer Bee both drew blood before Kisame changed the terrain to water. Don't see any in character scenario without intel where Hidan doesn't manage to get blood.

As long as Hidan made the ritual circle before hand, which he did in canon, he'll be fine because once the seal is made it becomes permanent. Water cannot wash it away

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. You can see him sliding over it does not leave any blood trails or smear marks.

Also Guy murders Hidan, especially in the upper gates.

Gai has nothing to put Hidan down (for sure up to 6 gates), so Hidan outlasts.

 

[Anbu Knights]

Kisame engages in CQC in almost every scenario. Especially in a 1v1 where he doesn't need to deal with multiple characters. Asuma and Killer Bee both drew blood before Kisame changed the terrain to water. Don't see any in character scenario without intel where Hidan doesn't manage to get blood.

As long as Hidan made the ritual circle before hand, which he did in canon, he'll be fine because once the seal is made it becomes permanent. Water cannot wash it away

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I agree, so long as the intel is none at all.

Manga intel Kisame wipes the floor with him.

 

[Tazzilla88]

Kisame engages in CQC in almost every scenario. Especially in a 1v1 where he doesn't need to deal with multiple characters. Asuma and Killer Bee both drew blood before Kisame changed the terrain to water. Don't see any in character scenario without intel where Hidan doesn't manage to get blood.

As long as Hidan made the ritual circle before hand, which he did in canon, he'll be fine because once the seal is made it becomes permanent. Water cannot wash it away

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. You can see him sliding over it does not leave any blood trails or smear marks.

Not being smudged =/= not being washed away.

 

[ToshiZO]

Not being smudged =/= not being washed away.

Lmfao no, if its fresh blood, it would leave blood trails, or even smears. The circle was 100% unaffected by Hidans smearing his feet all over it despite originally he set it up by doing exactly that, smearing it.


This is what its supposed to do naturally.

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once it is set it is permanent.

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You would have to prove it doesn't become permanent because everything points at that being the case.

I agree, so long as the intel is none at all.

Manga intel Kisame wipes the floor with him.

Ofcourse.

 

[Tazzilla88]

Lmfao no, if its fresh blood, it would leave blood trails, or even smears. The circle was 100% unaffected by Hidans smearing his feet all over it despite originally he set it up by doing exactly that, smearing it.


This is what its supposed to do naturally.

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once it is set it is permanent.

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You would have to prove it doesn't become permanent because everything points at that being the case.




Ofcourse.

are we actually discussing smears? Because next we should discuss the missing footprints in blood.

 

[ToshiZO]

are we actually discussing smears? Because next we should discuss the missing footprints in blood.

Yes we are, because there are clear cut zoomed in manga panels on Hidans ritual circle before he made it and after he made it, and the author clearly and intentionally showed how once it is completed it is not affected by the same thing that created it in the first place.

There is nothing to debate here, this is a fact and its not a little thing in the back, its right there smack dab for everyone to see.


Sound effects for blood smearing.

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Sound effects for foot sliding but blood untouched.

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And you can even see he is exerting tons of pressure while smearing with the explosive effect under his foot, and his footprint starting from inside the circle. So even the pressure he is exerting in the second scan is much more, yet the blood is not moving an inch. It doesn't get any clearer than this.