Im Still Robin
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And yet you're eating at the very crumbs of my ass in this thread my fellow vegito fan
[Discussion] Vegito and Gogeta
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Wrong section, gogeta is the only arrogant fool as seen in GT. And just as powerful? Stop dreaming.
Fanfic section pls, the old kaioshin himself said that the potara fusions is greater. It is the proper way to do fusion. Vegito even retained all his power when he was transformed into a candy, proving absolute superiority.
Disappointing as a i thought, you are nothing but a disgrace.
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves sure they have talent but can they simultaneously govern a multitude of realities then we'll discuss Zeno and his apprentice
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Why are all of you youngins mentioning the time limit that has no relevance in this who is stronger. Not who'd win in a fight, obviously it goes to vegito in both questions, but vegito is a more complete fusion, as mentioned by old Kai. Gogeta needs them to be equal power vegito doesn't there's your answer.
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The strength difference between Potara and Fusion dance was never quantified, and impossible to judge beyond a single satement (which could have been talking about the time limit).
However, as Fusion dance has only ever won a single fight (Janemba) before de-fusing, the time limit is very important.
I wasnt being literal. Either of them can safely beat whoever goku and vegeta where fighting, that is their purpose.
They are fundamentally the same strength, specifically being "far too strong for anyone to ever beat".
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If Kibito and Shin were both about 1000x Base Freiza (equaling a power level of 530,000,000) which is stronger than many Android Saga characters and far stronger than Goten and Trunks, why wasn't Kibitoshin strong enough to kill Buu? Wouldn't they be stronger than Gotenks and stronger than Base Vegito (but weaker than Super Vegito)? Just some food for thought...
Anyway, back to the topic. Vegito and Gogeta's power level can only be compared by the method of fusion. That being said, the only thing we have to go off of is that Old Kai said that Potara was "better" (if translated correctly). This of course refers to the lack of time limit with the Potara fusion, but *could* also refer to power. If it does (unlikely case), then Vegito is more powerful. If it doesn't (likely case), then Vegito = Gogeta in terms of power but Vegito > Gogeta due to being able to last more than 30 minutes. We can't compare them by the enemies they've fought because they curbstomped both enemies they fought with no effort.
Finally, we can't compare their techniques. I don't see why if one has a certain technique, then the other does not... Vegito can likely use Stardust Breaker (or Soul Punisher, whatever you wanna call it) and Gogeta can probably use all of what Vegito has shown.
TL;DR Gogeta = Vegito in power. Vegito > Gogeta overall because of the time limit.
And yet another fool who thinks that the time limit is relevant, i already said before why Vegito is undeniably superior and yet you deny it. Dont you dare define the power of Vegito with these ridiculous power levels, it's unrealistic since these powerlevels are not real.
And Gogeta's techniques are fanfic like his existence itself, Vegito's arsenal is only his since he is a entierly new being. With gogeta that is not the case. I repeat for the last time that this discussion is utterly pointless and inappropriate since basically this is comparing Vegito to someone who does not exist.
Vegito is the stronger of the two. But to me the way it comes off is Vegeta seems to have more control of the Vegito transformation with the earrings while Goku seems to have more control in the fusion dance transformation..
I hope it's Goku's transformation instead of Vegeta's for the simple fact that there's no coming back from that fusion once it's done.. The earrings should be towards the very end of the series because they both still have wives an children an on the other hand you still have Beerus an Whis an all of their time line foes...
All in all the earrings would mean no more Goku/Vegeta an what does that do for the series..
I hope it's Goku's transformation instead of Vegeta's for the simple fact that there's no coming back from that fusion once it's done.. The earrings should be towards the very end of the series because they both still have wives an children an on the other hand you still have Beerus an Whis an all of their time line foes...
All in all the earrings would mean no more Goku/Vegeta an what does that do for the series..
You must think twice before spouting such disgusting madness again, Vegito is one entirely new being. Vegeta has nothing to do with him besides that he is one of the two keys that are necessary to awaken him.
Dont ever make me repeat myself, i hope you learned something.
I meant the way they fought against buu while in Vegito state.. After they're inside buu they were arguing about not taking him out while they had the chance.. I believe it was Goku who said he wanted to end it an Vegeta who wanted to test more of the fusions power... It's been awhile since i've watched it but i remember a convo between them on the matter..
& Vegeto has more of a Vegeta look to him While Gogeta looks more to that of Goku... I could be wrong but like I said, It's the feel it gave off to me..
Gotenks looks & acts more like Goten then Trunks if they were to use the earrings I'm sure trunk's look an style would take over like his father's did/do..
They way "THEY" fought against Buu??, are you not able to properly read? This is last time i hear this insult, re-read my post and dont make it happen again.
This is Vegito only, dont ever make the same mistake again. Your assumptions are not necessary when we already know the clear facts.
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You keep posting the same things, with no further evidence. What is more, nobody is saying Gogeta is superior. You are just arguing whether Vegito wins in 31 minutes or 5.
With no further evidence? Sounds like someone never learned to read, the time when Goku asked dende to fuse he said it can't be done since his existence is linked to the dragon balls. Thus Clearly indicating that both of them would not exist when it happened.
The potara not only adds the power but multiplies the power of each fuses. You are just pitiful if you deny that Vegito is vastly superior, but then again this is logically pointless since Gogeta never existed.
Dont bother showing up if you have not realized this yet.
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Vegito is obviously stronger. I at first thought he could match Cell in base form but I was horribly wrong. I believe he's capable of blowing up the Universe.
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I think i will show up again.
Unless you have direct confirmation that Potara Fusion produces a stronger character than the Fusion Dance, which you don't, all anyone can say is that Potara has no time limit, and is therefore stronger. Whether characters count as a seperate entity or a mix between the two is irrelevant.
Due to the fact that both Gogeta and Vegito are so ludicrously strong that no matter what they fight, they would win, the only difference that can be measured is that Vegito will not de-fuse two seconds before the finishing blow.
I say theyre equally as strong. Just that Vegito is forever.
No one is questions the canon BS.
Gogeta curb stomped Janemba in the movie while SSJ3 goku was powerless and useless.
So again, theyre both strong af, probably equal just one has a time limit and the other does not.
No one is questions the canon BS.
Gogeta curb stomped Janemba in the movie while SSJ3 goku was powerless and useless.
So again, theyre both strong af, probably equal just one has a time limit and the other does not.
Read below, unless you have realized how stubborn your argument is then dont answer.
Unless you have a direct confirmation?, huh funny seems like you finally realized that the Vegito is obviously superior. If there was a direct confirmation then this discussion would have been meaningless, to say such statement now is a clear sign of confession. You have no more denial on your side, there is no point to this.
But i give you my final hint, since apparently it seems you still can't comprehend what old kai said. He said that the potara is better than the fusion dance, since when has time anything to do with power? Better means as in superior, greater, and it is the proper way to do fusion.
And to complete it even further , the potara was created by the kaioshins themself. The greatest gods in the universe, this means quality of highest level. These irrelevant Metamorans pale in comparison. If the kaioshin so desired to confirm that the potara is better because of it's permanent attribute, then he would have said so.
Now good bye.
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Excuse me? Not sure I have enough illicit substances to follow your line of thinking. I ask for evidence, you claim that this means I have "realised" that there is no evidence, and that therefore you must be right?
What?
I've been pressing you for evidence since the start. You have failed to deliver. You cannot claim this makes you right.
Think about why Gotenks failed to kill Buu. He was about to finish him off, and then the fusion timed out. Oh my, what a terrible problem that cost them the universe. If only there was a kind of fusion, of the same power, but with no time limit? The absence of the 30 minute limit is all it takes to consider the Potara fusion "better", seeing as how the time limit was the only thing between Gotenks and stopping Buu.
And to complete it further, the Fusion Dance was created by the Metamorans themselves. The greatest metamorans in the universe, this means quality of the highest level. These incompetent Kaionshins pale in comparison. If a third party were to give an unbiased view on the two techniques, then maybe it would be comparable.
Now hello.
See? I can structure my sentences like that too! Elder Kai only ever said it was "Better", not Stronger. I note that you manage to skip over that little tidbit when saying that he would have to confirm the time limit. Why must Elder Kai say it is superior for it's permanence, and not for it's power?
And I think it's adorable that you assume your stubbornness is enough of an answer for both of us. Let me slightly rephrase one last thing you said:
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Because sarcasm and contradicting myself is a perfect final statement. In future, don't close every point you make with what basically boils down to "Now F*** Off"
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Exactly , you been pressing me for evidence from the start. YET you deny the facts i deliver infront of you, your failure is the most impressive one i seen in my lifetime. So regarding this: "Think about why gotenks failed to kill buu", is your head empty? Because it apparently is very empty, gotenks was a arrogant kid who refused to destroy buu as quickly as he could. He played to amuse himself and did not realize the importance of his battle.
Like i said, it's you who has not given me a confirmation at all, i repeat that the old kai never suggested that the potara is better because it's permanent attribute. Though, now why must he say it? Oh maybe because it's important information maybe?, time limits in the dragon ball world has no effect on the result of a battle unless you stall time like gotenks did. Elder kai is a wise god who does not focus on such minor things, when he say it's better. Then it is greater and more powerful of a fusion.
Now this discussion has gone far too long, your childish denial is simply an eyesore beyond human standards. Now you truly deserve all those dislikes that were intentionally put as a signature, congratulations.
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