CE Sasuke v CE Naruto

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Was it because he wanted to merk Naruto?

What are your thoughts as to what would have happened had the exam not been interuppted?
 

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What stage of the chuunin exams is this?

If we're talking Chuunin finals, then Naruto wins after Kurama's chakra starts to leak out.
 

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Naruto would defeat Sasuke here. At VoTE 2-Tomoe Sasuke even w/ the Curse Mark IIRC was getting his ass blitzed and slapped around by KN0 Naruto. While KN0 Naruto at the exams is weaker than he was at the final fight, Sasuke himself is also weaker due to the fact he won't be using Curse Mark here and the fact that Sasuke got a buff from those pills. So Naruto may not be able to destroy him as bad as he did back then, but Sasuke won't be doing well himself either.

Naruto doesn't have Rasengan but Sasuke can only use Chidori twice. If Naruto keeps spamming clones he can avoid getting hit by Chidori pretty easily. Sasuke isn't going to take out an army of KN0 clones nor will he survive a Kurama chakra powered Naruto 2K Barrage. (wouldn't even survive the regular)



Then we have the fact that Sasuke flat out saw Naruto as his superior after the events of the Sand Invasion, which is the same time frame as the exam.
 

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Naruto would defeat Sasuke here. At VoTE 2-Tomoe Sasuke even w/ the Curse Mark IIRC was getting his ass blitzed and slapped around by KN0 Naruto. While KN0 Naruto at the exams is weaker than he was at the final fight, Sasuke himself is also weaker due to the fact he won't be using Curse Mark here and the fact that Sasuke got a buff from those pills. So Naruto may not be able to destroy him as bad as he did back then, but Sasuke won't be doing well himself either.

Naruto doesn't have Rasengan but Sasuke can only use Chidori twice. If Naruto keeps spamming clones he can avoid getting hit by Chidori pretty easily. Sasuke isn't going to take out an army of KN0 clones nor will he survive a Kurama chakra powered Naruto 2K Barrage. (wouldn't even survive the regular)



Then we have the fact that Sasuke flat out saw Naruto as his superior after the events of the Sand Invasion, which is the same time frame as the exam.
There is a clear difference between Naruto taking a few drops of chakra form the Kyuubi and Kyuubi's influence during KN0. If you can't see that then you're a fool.

Sasuke low-mid diff.
 

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There is a clear difference between Naruto taking a few drops of chakra form the Kyuubi and Kyuubi's influence during KN0. If you can't see that then you're a fool.

Sasuke low-mid diff.

You are probably top 3 edgiest posters on this entire site. There is no difference in power, only in emotional state. Any difference in power is shit you made up. It's the same exact chakra, you just have no way of actually proving that Naruto being under Kurama's influence means that he is using more chakra than he would be without it.

"A few drops"

:lol Pull more stuff out of your ass why don't you?

Sasuke doesn't low-mid diff shit. Sasuke gets his ass whooped. Funny how Sasuke himself knows his place but his fans will continue to deny the truth. :lol Hilarious.
 

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You are probably top 3 edgiest posters on this entire site. There is no difference in power, only in emotional state. Any difference in power is shit you made up. It's the same exact chakra, you just have no way of actually proving that Naruto being under Kurama's influence means that he is using more chakra than he would be without it.

"A few drops"

:lol Pull more stuff out of your ass why don't you?

Sasuke doesn't low-mid diff shit. Sasuke gets his ass whooped. Funny how Sasuke himself knows his place but his fans will continue to deny the truth. :lol Hilarious.

Sasuke said that b/c of Naruto's summoning SMH.

Also lol if you think Sasuke is going to stand still while Naruto bargains w/ Kurama for a few drops of chakra
 

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Sasuke said that b/c of Naruto's summoning SMH.








:lol You were saying?

Based on Naruto and Sasuke's hospital fight Naruto would obliterate Sasuke if he tapped into Kurama's power like he did against Gaara. Lmao. If Gaara hadn't gone full Shukaku he would've been beaten by Naruto right then and there yet you think Sasuke low-mid diffs him.

Also lol if you think Sasuke is going to stand still while Naruto bargains w/ Kurama for a few drops of chakra

Lmao. What a trash argument, but that is expected from you. Naruto dumps on your boy.
 
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Naruto would defeat Sasuke here. At VoTE 2-Tomoe Sasuke even w/ the Curse Mark IIRC was getting his ass blitzed and slapped around by KN0 Naruto.

When? lol Sasuke described his 3 tomoe as being under the influence of his curse mark

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you try to say he got stronger from them pills but Naruto is much stronger here to as CE2 Naruto speed is still well below Rock lee's level. Sasuke danced around basically VOTE naruto clones for a while on that roof before he got kicked in the air and this is after 2 months in a coma Naruto's normal clones would get dragged with katon speed and taijutsu like canon. KN0 army since when could CE2 naruto do that? Naruto uses KN0 and rushes Sasuke he gets shanked with CM Sasuke chidori.


edit - At that time base Gaara would have defeated Naruto who just matched well against his shukaku form Naruto was no where near fast enough to outspeed auto sand and was not strong enough to punch through so Gaara would have won if he was in base vs him being over confident in that v1 form
 
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When? lol Sasuke described his 3 tomoe as being under the influence of his curse mark

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you try to say he got stronger from them pills but Naruto is much stronger here to as CE2 Naruto speed is still well below Rock lee's level. Sasuke danced around basically VOTE naruto clones for a while on that roof before he got kicked in the air and this is after 2 months in a coma Naruto's normal clones would get dragged with katon speed and taijutsu like canon. KN0 army since when could CE2 naruto do that? Naruto uses KN0 and rushes Sasuke he gets shanked with CM Sasuke chidori.


edit - At that time base Gaara would have defeated Naruto who just matched well against his shukaku form Naruto was no where near fast enough to outspeed auto sand and was not strong enough to punch through so Gaara would have won if he was in base vs him being over confident in that v1 form

And here we go.............
 

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The Viz Manga only states that Sasuke inferred it was the Cursed Seal's effects due to it synchronizing with his body as it did earlier:

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The Viz Manga only states that Sasuke inferred it was the Cursed Seal's effects due to it synchronizing with his body as it did earlier:

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When? lol Sasuke described his 3 tomoe as being under the influence of his curse mark

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you try to say he got stronger from them pills but Naruto is much stronger here to as CE2 Naruto speed is still well below Rock lee's level. Sasuke danced around basically VOTE naruto clones for a while on that roof before he got kicked in the air and this is after 2 months in a coma Naruto's normal clones would get dragged with katon speed and taijutsu like canon. KN0 army since when could CE2 naruto do that? Naruto uses KN0 and rushes Sasuke he gets shanked with CM Sasuke chidori.


edit - At that time base Gaara would have defeated Naruto who just matched well against his shukaku form Naruto was no where near fast enough to outspeed auto sand and was not strong enough to punch through so Gaara would have won if he was in base vs him being over confident in that v1 form

Ok, then I stand corrected. Doesn't change the overall point though considering CE Sasuke can't effectively use the Curse Mark. I already stated that Naruto is stronger at VoTE than he was at the Chunnin Exams, and the same goes for Sasuke. So while Sasuke won't get wrecked as hard as he did, he's not going to defeat Naruto let alone low-mid diff.

Sasuke didn't dance around anything. He fought with Taijutsu until they managed to kick him up in the air, then he countered with Katon. If Naruto had used Kurama's power (which also makes his clones stronger obviously) and summoned 2K clones like he did against Gaara he would've gotten raped right then and there. That Katon wouldn't have saved him.

-Naruto makes 2K clones and beats the living hell out of Sasuke.

OR

-Naruto calls on Kurama's chakra like he did against Neji and beats the living hell out of Sasuke.

@bold: If Base Gaara has the ability to block 2K Barrage then why would his stronger Jinchuuriki form need to enter Full Bijuu Mode just to counter it? Not being able to outspeed the sand doesn't matter as that is only if you want to land a direct hit on Gaara. If you can bust through his defense there's no need.
 

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Yeah, fixed it.

Not seeing what changes here. He still thought he was being amped by his CM or atleast at the skill level he was he thought he CM had something to do with it.

Either way Curse mark and KN0 are roughly equal powerups Sasuke is much stronger than Base Naruto thus with CM he'd be stronger than KN0 Naruto.
 

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Not seeing what changes here. He still thought he was being amped by his CM or atleast at the skill level he was he thought he CM had something to do with it.

Either way Curse mark and KN0 are roughly equal powerups Sasuke is much stronger than Base Naruto thus with CM he'd be stronger than KN0 Naruto.

Sasuke questioned if his body was adapting to the effects of the Cursed Seal much like what had happened earlier with Sasuke later questioning how much accessible power he possessed if the seal was released. It's not including the Cursed Seal's actual power at all, only how his body adapts and responds to its power and the similar usage of words points in that direction.

I'm actually baffled why you're proposing that Sasuke was referencing the power obtained through releasing the seal when the actual effects of it through changes in appearance is quite obvious.
 

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Ok, then I stand corrected. Doesn't change the overall point though considering CE Sasuke can't effectively use the Curse Mark. I already stated that Naruto is stronger at VoTE than he was at the Chunnin Exams, and the same goes for Sasuke. So while Sasuke won't get wrecked as hard as he did, he's not going to defeat Naruto let alone low-mid diff.

Sasuke won't get wrecked period so you don't have a point.

Sasuke didn't dance around anything. He fought with Taijutsu until they managed to kick him up in the air, then he countered with Katon. If Naruto had used Kurama's power (which also makes his clones stronger obviously) and summoned 2K clones like he did against Gaara he would've gotten raped right then and there. That Katon wouldn't have saved him.

He did but stop acting like CE2 Naruto is = to that Naruto when he's not he's been through the whole Itachi, Kisame, return arc and the whole tsunade learning rasengan bs his skill and chakra control is well above that level. so degrade Naruto to that form and he gets mopped even worse. Except CE2 Naruto has to choices he either goes into KN0 mode and have no clones or use the chakra to make an abundance of clones he never shown he could make KN0 Clones at that point.

Naruto makes 2K clones and beats the living hell out of Sasuke.

At this point in time Sasuke speed was well above Naruto's add his reflexes with 2 tomoe he could simply stay back and use his katon and shuriken jutsu rigged with wire like he did against orochimaru. Or he could blitz past the clones and tear them up like Neji did.

Naruto calls on Kurama's chakra like he did against Neji and beats the living hell out of Sasuke.

That KN0 naruto is not even stronger than any of his red eyed incarnations so no the only thing it got is a speed boost Naruto rushes Sasuke like he did Neji Chidori shanks his ass up.

@bold: If Base Gaara has the ability to block 2K Barrage then why would his stronger Jinchuuriki form need to enter Full Bijuu Mode just to counter it? Not being able to outspeed the sand doesn't matter as that is only if you want to land a direct hit on Gaara. If you can bust through his defense there's no need.

Stop playing that means nothing. Naruto only got the beat on that Gaara because they we're in a forest and he could come from basically a 360 if that would have been base Gaara those clones would have been blocked and swept away . Gaara sand attacks no matter what so even if Naruto manages to hit him he's not going to do much considering Gaara took a beat down from 5 gated lee and got back up like it was nothing Base Gaara would work that Naruto.

He got lucky with the Gaara v1 form.
 

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Sasuke questioned if his body was adapting to the effects of the Cursed Seal much like what had happened earlier with Sasuke later questioning how much accessible power he possessed if the seal was released. It's not including the Cursed Seal's actual power at all, only how his body adapts and responds to its power and the similar usage of words points in that direction.
I'm actually baffled why you're proposing that Sasuke was referencing the power obtained through releasing the seal when the actual effects of it through changes in appearance is quite obvious.

Im not going to lie i don't understand what you're trying to say but like i said boost wise CM = KN0
 

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Sasuke won't get wrecked period so you don't have a point.



He did but stop acting like CE2 Naruto is = to that Naruto when he's not he's been through the whole Itachi, Kisame, return arc and the whole tsunade learning rasengan bs his skill and chakra control is well above that level. so degrade Naruto to that form and he gets mopped even worse. Except CE2 Naruto has to choices he either goes into KN0 mode and have no clones or use the chakra to make an abundance of clones he never shown he could make KN0 Clones at that point.

What are you even talking about? The only training he did then is the training to obtain Rasengan. Chakra control is irrelevant to the point. Skill with chakra is irrelevant. Naruto's physical abilities are not dramatically different from that time to the hospital battle. In terms of CQC w/o Ninjutsu Naruto was overwhelming him with far less than 2000 clones. I don't know how much more faster and stronger you think Naruto got but that boost is nowhere near the boost in fighting power Naruto gets from making that many clones.

Whether or not they are KN0 influenced doesn't matter regardless.


At this point in time Sasuke speed was well above Naruto's add his reflexes with 2 tomoe he could simply stay back and use his katon and shuriken jutsu rigged with wire like he did against orochimaru. Or he could blitz past the clones and tear them up like Neji did.

No, he can't. :lol He was overwhelmed by a much smaller clone army. Him being able to blow past 2000 of them is nonsense. Naruto will have him surrounded so there is no "stay back and use Katon".

Stop playing that means nothing. Naruto only got the beat on that Gaara because they we're in a forest and he could come from basically a 360 if that would have been base Gaara those clones would have been blocked and swept away . Gaara sand attacks no matter what so even if Naruto manages to hit him he's not going to do much considering Gaara took a beat down from 5 gated lee and got back up like it was nothing Base Gaara would work that Naruto.

Based on what? :lol No real evidence in anything you've stated here. Being able to repel Rock Lee doesn't mean he can repel 2000 clones from Naruto. Transformed Gaara>Base Gaara. Transformed Gaara was about to be finished off by 2k Barrage. 5G Lee being unable to take down a weaker Gaara w/ direct hits means nothing besides the fact that 2K Barrage>>Ura Renge minus the finishing blow in power.

-Them being in a forest doesn't change that outcome.
-Transformed Gaara was about to get murked, so there's no way Base Gaara will block them all. :lol

Naruto as he was against Neji w/ no clones would have a hard time winning but if Naruto uses Kurama's chakra to use clones like he did against Gaara Sasuke doesn't win. Ever. :lol

Funny how you guys are still trying to argue this even though Sasuke's reactions to Naruto's techniques during his fight against Gaara tell us who the stronger one is.
 
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