How strong is Orochimaru really?

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He only lost to Itachi easily because of his Sharingan which was a major advantage. Dragon Sage Mode Kabuto is stronger than Itachi though and was able to do major damage to him. But he lost because Sasuke was helping Itachi.

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Orochimaru>Itachi
Orochiimaru>Jiraiya
DSM Kabuto>Orochimaru
Any version of Madara>Orochimaru
Pain>Orochimaru
Orochimaru>Kakashi
Orochimaru>Hebi Sasuke
 

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I think he was stronger than Jirayai and Tsunade. Slug > Toad > Snake according Japanese mythology.
Then how is he stronger than Tsunade, Orochimaru has never thought that he could beat Tsunade. Even when she was cut in half, he said he's never imaging seeing her in this bad condition, what can Orochimaru do to Tsuande? nothing.
 

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How strong was he? When he was in Akatsuki we know that he was weaker than Itachi, most definitely Pain as well. But what about Sasori, Hidan and the others? Discuss
it's not about how weak orochimaru was, it's about how strong itachi really is :lol

tsunade said if orochimaru joined the good side earlier, he and jiraiya could've taken down pain.
 

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He only lost to Itachi easily because of his Sharingan which was a major advantage. Dragon Sage Mode Kabuto is stronger than Itachi though and was able to do major damage to him. But he lost because Sasuke was helping Itachi.

So...

Orochimaru>Itachi
Orochiimaru>Jiraiya
DSM Kabuto>Orochimaru
Any version of Madara>Orochimaru
Pain>Orochimaru
Orochimaru>Kakashi
Orochimaru>Hebi Sasuke
great list bro :lmao:
 

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He only lost to Itachi easily because of his Sharingan which was a major advantage. Dragon Sage Mode Kabuto is stronger than Itachi though and was able to do major damage to him. But he lost because Sasuke was helping Itachi.

So...

Orochimaru>Itachi
Orochiimaru>Jiraiya
DSM Kabuto>Orochimaru
Any version of Madara>Orochimaru
Pain>Orochimaru
Orochimaru>Kakashi
Orochimaru>Hebi Sasuke
Lmao didn't know totsuka was a sharingan jutsu :lol
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Also, I like how you ignore sasuke/itachi holding back on kabuto and his cave advantage.
 

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Lmao didn't know totsuka was a sharingan jutsu :lol
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Also, I like how you ignore sasuke/itachi holding back on kabuto and his cave advantage.
Totsuka actually has to hit it's target to work bruh. It's not a 360 degree omnipotent attack. And Orochimaru is a sereptitious, cunning individual. There is no way he's going to get hit by a physical attack unless he's weakened or he lets you. Ex. His fight against 4 Tails

And they might've held back but they still would've lost without genjutsu ;)
 
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