Hiashi vs raikage

[unknownvillain1254]

Hiashi vs raikage

30 meter

Hiashi knows about the raikage
Location Forest of death

 

[ToshiZO]

Hiashi gets his eyes stolen from him.

 

[BLAZE]

hiashi stomps darui

 

[Haizaki]

Hiashi gets his eyes stolen from him like the fodder that he is.

A fodder does do this quickly?

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Enough to resume the war

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Kishi's words in the Fanbook:

"Shinobi Rulers are a rank found in the Hidden Clouds. Ranked above jounin, and given the authority to represent their village’s interests."

That's one level before Kage, yet you think he's fodder? Obviously not. You don't send weak Shinobis for these sought of missions especially when it comes to kidnapping. Otherwise, they would have sent lower Jounins or something.

OP: Raikage wins this. Extremely fast.

 

[The Messiah]

hiashi stomps darui

You a smart guy. I bet everybody including myself was thinking about Ay.

 

[UnknownJin]

We dont know anything about Hiashi but Raikage low-diff

 

[Jinrou]

A fodder does do this quickly?

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Enough to resume the war

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Kishi's words in the Fanbook:


That's one level before Kage, yet you think he's fodder? Obviously not. You don't send weak Shinobis for these sought of missions especially when it comes to kidnapping. Otherwise, they would have sent lower Jounins or something.

OP: Raikage wins this. Extremely fast.

Extremely fast? Is that because of insufficient feats?

 

[KidGamer65]

If it's against Ay IV then Ay Shunshins at him and Karate Chops him right in the neck or punches him straight in the face. If it's against Ay III then he Shunshins at him and rips him apart with Nukite.

 

[The Messiah]

If it's against Ay IV then Ay Shunshins at him and Karate Chops him right in the neck or punches him straight in the face. If it's against Ay III then he Shunshins at him and rips him apart with Nukite.

It might be Darui like hell blazer said.

 

[ToshiZO]

A fodder does do this quickly?

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Enough to resume the war

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Kishi's words in the Fanbook:


That's one level before Kage, yet you think he's fodder? Obviously not. You don't send weak Shinobis for these sought of missions especially when it comes to kidnapping. Otherwise, they would have sent lower Jounins or something.

OP: Raikage wins this. Extremely fast.

That ranked above Jounin deal literally means nothing in regards to strength. Could literally just be advisers. Even those old bums in Konoha order the higher ups around.

 

[Haizaki]

That ranked above Jounin deal literally means nothing in regards to strength. Could literally just be advisers. Even those old bums in Konoha order the higher ups around.

They order the people built for the missions around, elders aren't going for missions. Ranked above Jounins and going for missions in another village despite the fact that he had to successfully infiltrate Konoha known to be protected by powerful Shinobi's isn't an easy feat. Let's not put him in the category of "elders", Elder isn't a rank nor is adviser. Jounins can be advisers. Take a look at Shikamaru now--Adviser isn't a Shinobi rank like Special Ruler is, you're obviously wrong here.

Advisers don't go for missions based on the fact that their advisers, especially when you look at the Konoha council full of elders. Killer B was part of the Kumo council

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and so was Darui who at that point was a Jounin. Even so, advisors are considered to be high leveled in some cases...Tobirama was Hashirama's advisor? I recall Shikamaru saying something like this in the fight against Juubito. Something he wanted to become in Naruto's cabinet.

 

[Avenge1]

Raikage too fast he win

 

[ToshiZO]

They order the people built for the missions around, elders aren't going for missions. Ranked above Jounins and going for missions in another village despite the fact that he had to successfully infiltrate Konoha known to be protected by powerful Shinobi's isn't an easy feat. Let's not put him in the category of "elders", Elder isn't a rank nor is adviser. Jounins can be advisers. Take a look at Shikamaru now--Adviser isn't a Shinobi rank like Special Ruler is, you're obviously wrong here.

Advisers don't go for missions based on the fact that their advisers, especially when you look at the Konoha council full of elders. Killer B was part of the Kumo council

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and so was Darui who at that point was a Jounin. Even so, advisors are considered to be high leveled in some cases...Tobirama was Hashirama's advisor? I recall Shikamaru saying something like this in the fight against Juubito. Something he wanted to become in Naruto's cabinet.

Not interested in something so vague. Raikage was a Kage and the next best thing we saw were Jounins like Darui.

 

[Haizaki]

Not interested in something so vague. Raikage was a Kage and the next best thing we saw were Jounins like Darui.

That's even if Darui was a relevant Shinobi during this period. Btw, Shinobi ruler is above Jounin level in terms of Ninja ranks and considering the attempt to retrieve the Byakugan by even the 4th Raikage's cabinet

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, I don't know why they didn't send Jounin level Shinobis since they tend to go on missions like this. Rather, they sent someone of a higher rank when they could have had their Jounins do the missions. That says it all. Nothing else but the fact that Shinobi ruler was ranked above Jounins according to Kishi and then the fact that one was sent rather than Jonins who are experienced and go for A rank mission and sometimes S Rank. Not only that but he successfully infiltrated Konoha before he was eventually defeated.

If you're sending someone of a higher rank, it's most likely because you feel they're more experienced and stronger than those lower than them and that's because the lower ones who are very experienced too tend to go for the mission instead. If they don't then it might be something beyond them or something the Kage feels can be done more effectively by one of a higher rank. Otherwise, knowing they're weak or fodder like you're claiming won't be the case here.

 

[ToshiZO]

That's even if Darui was a relevant Shinobi during this period. Btw, Shinobi ruler is above Jounin level in terms of Ninja ranks and considering the attempt to retrieve the Byakugan by even the 4th Raikage's cabinet

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, I don't know why they didn't send Jounin level Shinobis since they tend to go on missions like this. Rather, they sent someone of a higher rank when they could have had their Jounins do the missions. That says it all. Nothing else but the fact that Shinobi ruler was ranked above Jounins according to Kishi and then the fact that one was sent rather than Jonins who are experienced and go for A rank mission and sometimes S Rank. Not only that but he successfully infiltrated Konoha before he was eventually defeated.

If you're sending someone of a higher rank, it's most likely because you feel they're more experienced and stronger than those lower than them and that's because the lower ones who are very experienced too tend to go for the mission instead. If they don't then it might be something beyond them. Otherwise, knowing they're weak or fodder like you're claiming won't be the case here.

I wonder why one of them weren't leading the war as a commander instead of Darui.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Hiashi isn't keeping up with Ay IV's speed

 

[Haizaki]

I wonder why one of them weren't leading the war as a commander instead of Darui.

Christ. The strongest individual isn't the one who leads as a commander. Leadership is also a factor. Kakashi becoming the 6th Hokage in a village with some stronger than him is a testament. Tsunade as well.

Being sent on a mission by yourself isn't a case of leadership but sheer skill in this scenario we speak of. That has nothing to do with this. Shikamaru was leading the Sasuke retrieval squad with people there being stronger than him. Not to mention what kills your argument is the fact that we know not if the position still holds considering we have no idea who the ruler is after the one that was killed long time ago. We know not if the current one is even as powerful enough or back protecting his village. I can argue the previous one was powerful enough seeing as he was chosen for such a mission rather than the Jonins.

 

[ToshiZO]

Christ. The strongest individual isn't the one who leads as a commander. Leadership is also a factor. Kakashi becoming the 6th Hokage in a village with some stronger than him is a testament. Tsunade as well.

Being sent on a mission by yourself isn't a case of leadership but sheer skill in this scenario we speak of. That has nothing to do with this. Shikamaru was leading the Sasuke retrieval squad with people there being stronger than him. Not to mention what kills your argument is the fact that we know not if the position still holds considering we have no idea who the ruler is after the one that was killed long time ago. We know not if the current one is even as powerful enough or back protecting his village. I can argue the previous one was powerful enough seeing as he was chosen for such a mission rather than the Jonins.

Ok? This is all vague stuff to gas up Hiashi, one rank lower than Kage would be Jounin either way.

We already know Hiashi is Jounin level, this isn't exactly groundbreaking.

What I said was in response to the OP creating this thread ffs, fodder is a term that can be relative to who the opponent is. In this case assuming OP was talking about the 4th or 3rd Raikage, Hiashi is a fodder to them. I didn't need your history lesson here lmao.

 

[Draegod]

I wonder why one of them weren't leading the war as a commander instead of Darui.

Maybe because they were killed off by... Oh wait...

 

[ToshiZO]

Maybe because they were killed off by... Oh wait...

Wait was it a squad of them or a single person?

Tbh I don't even know why I'm wasting my time here with something so trivial that I said in regards to this match up.