Itachi and obito vs kakashi and spiral zetsu yamato

[PrimeUchiha]

Itachi and obito massacre them similar to what they did to the uchiha LMAO

 

[Blackzoro]

Bruh...

 

[EZQ]

Specify what Obito and what Itachi, and team 2 could win

 

[KidGamer65]

If this is MS Obito:

MS Obito>Kakashi
Itachi>Zetsu

If this is Rinnegan Obito then he'd solo.

 

[EZQ]

If this is MS Obito and sick Itachi

Kakashi > Obito

Zetsu can hold off Itachi if he has knowledge on amaterasu and totsuka, Kakashi uses Kamui on Itachi

 

[TRE MERCER]

If this is MS Obito and sick Itachi

Kakashi > Obito

Zetsu can hold off Itachi if he has knowledge on amaterasu and totsuka, Kakashi uses Kamui on Itachi

Didn't you already get clowned in the Kakashi vs MS Obito thread don't go sprouting that BS here when you got owned already.

Anywas Obito and Itachi spanks.

 

[EZQ]

Didn't you already get clowned in the Kakashi vs MS Obito thread don't go sprouting that BS here when you got owned already.

Anywas Obito and Itachi spanks.

Nope. I didn't answer you in that thread because your argument is horrendous. Not being quoted back =/= concession. Mind you, iirc i was arguin with KG in that thread, and your argument seemed trash to me.

 

[Scryed]

Itachi and Obito since they're already individually stronger than the ones they're facing.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Nope. I didn't answer you in that thread because your argument is horrendous. Not being quoted back =/= concession. Mind you, iirc i was arguin with KG in that thread, and your argument seemed trash to me.

My argument was trash yet you decided to quote me that makes no sense? Speaking of trash arguments I recall you saying the following.

Obito can't use his Juubi sized Katon in close range which is wrong AF.

Kakashi beats Obito in cqc and when I asked you how your response was he can beat Obito in cqc just because. Yes you stopped your explanation at just because. You lost that debate just admit it.

 

[EZQ]

My argument was trash yet you decided to quote me that makes no sense? Speaking of trash arguments I recall you saying the following.

Obito can't use his Juubi sized Katon in close range which is wrong AF.

Kakashi beats Obito in cqc and when I asked you how your response was he can beat Obito in cqc just because. Yes you stopped your explanation at just because. You lost that debate just admit it.

No, its not wrong. Juubi sized Katon takes more charge time than normal katon, for obvious reasons. And it's irrelevant, since anyways Kakashi counters it by going underground. And Kakashi beats Obito in CQC simply because Obito's feats in CQC are almost none, while Kakashi has good feats, so the one with the burden of proof would be you.

 

[TRE MERCER]

No, its not wrong. Juubi sized Katon takes more charge time than normal katon, for obvious reasons. And it's irrelevant, since anyways Kakashi counters it by going underground. And Kakashi beats Obito in CQC simply because Obito's feats in CQC are almost none, while Kakashi has good feats, so the one with the burden of proof would be you.

Ok you started this now once you get owned again don't use that i can't take you serious excuse again.

Juubi size Katon doesn't take more time than any other katon[

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] Obito and Madara just shot it out with ease it didn't say or was it implied that it takes longer thats just your stuggle fanifc lmao. Like i said in the last thread boy Obito only does it when Kakashi engages him in cqc he isn't slipping underground when hes right in front of Obito. Obito feats in cqc are none? Obito was fighting BM Naruto in cqc he even caught him with his mokuton[

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]Obito was reacting to Minato at age 13 bruh. That alone should tell you about his cqc. Even if Kakashi was better than him in cqc Obito makes up for it with Mokuton spitting giant shurikens out of his eye and and Juubi size katon so if Kakashi gets close he gets killed regardless. You lost before now you'll lose again gtfoh.

 

[EZQ]

Ok you started this now once you get owned again don't use that i can't take you serious excuse again.

Juubi size Katon doesn't take more time than any other katon[

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] Obito and Madara just shot it out with ease it didn't say or was it implied that it takes longer thats just your stuggle fanifc lmao. Like i said in the last thread boy Obito only does it when Kakashi engages him in cqc he isn't slipping underground when hes right in front of Obito. Obito feats in cqc are none? Obito was fighting BM Naruto in cqc he even caught him with his mokuton[

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]Obito was reacting to Minato at age 13 bruh. That alone should tell you about his cqc. Even if Kakashi was better than him in cqc Obito makes up for it with Mokuton spitting giant shurikens out of his eye and and Juubi size katon so if Kakashi gets close he gets killed regardless. You lost before now you'll lose again gtfoh.

Ok, lets get this ass one more time.

Lmfao, you're using a scan as a parameter of time. Way to go. This kind of retarded logic is what makes your argument so silly.

NINJUTSU; Katon: Goukakyuu no jutsu (Fire Release: Hulking Fireball technique)
User: Uchiha Sasuke
Offensive; Close range; Rank: C

Main text

A jutsu where the chakra kneaded inside the body is converted into fire, and expelled forward in a massive orb of roaring flame. The scope of the attack is altered by controlling the volume of chakra that is mustered. The blazes, released with a thunderous roar will engulf their target, and leave a crater on the ground's surface. That's how terrifying they are...!!

Caption

-The massive flame engulfs and vaporizes everything!!

Picture comment

-The seals to activate it are Uma (Horse) and Tora (Tiger). Sasuke already has the skill to handle that advanced technique.

So, for more fire, you need to knead more chakra. Enough with the retarded logic of using a scan as a parameter of time.. here's the link to the translations

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forums.com/threads/databook-collection-thread-part-i.496343/page-2 . So yeah, cut this bullshit. Not to mention, Kakashi counters it via going underground. If Obito takes the time to use Juubi sized Katon in a short range, it leaves Kakashi a bigger oppening and the later just disrupts the charge of the jutsu.

And LMAOO, okay, Obito using JUUBI SIZED KATON while in CQC? Ok, this is expected from you..

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Kakashi reacts to the smaller and less charge time katon. So the bigger katon gets reacted to, and he goes underground. Or even better.. If Obito is stupid enough to attempt that jutsu while being in CQC with Kakashi, he gets killed in the charge time.

-Lol at reacting to Naruto, when Naruto only attempted to save Kakashi.
-Lol at him MENTALLY reacting to minato, when first of all, he couldn't even manage to activate Kamui in front of FTG, and second of all, he needs PHYSICALL reactions in a battle where his phasing is nullyfied.
-Giant shurikens out of his eye,... already countered in Canon, or again, going underground. Mokuton gets shitstomped by raikiri, raiden, or raikiri wolf

So literally, this is why i didn't bother with your shitty logic and views on this matchup.

 

[The Messiah]

Kakashi solos lol.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Ok, lets get this ass one more time.

Lmfao, you're using a scan as a parameter of time. Way to go. This kind of retarded logic is what makes your argument so silly.



So, for more fire, you need to knead more chakra. Enough with the retarded logic of using a scan as a parameter of time.. here's the link to the translations

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forums.com/threads/databook-collection-thread-part-i.496343/page-2 . So yeah, cut this bullshit. Not to mention, Kakashi counters it via going underground. If Obito takes the time to use Juubi sized Katon in a short range, it leaves Kakashi a bigger oppening and the later just disrupts the charge of the jutsu.

Tssk your back at the nonsense again huh? No that scan is proof they didn't take any longer. That still doesn't mean it takes longer you dumbass boy when they said there jutsu and it came out just like that. Just like anyother katon quit reaching you *****. Never has there ever been a charge up time to use any katon tech regardless of size i should smack you for even saying something that stupid.

And LMAOO, okay, Obito using JUUBI SIZED KATON while in CQC? Ok, this is expected from you..

Make believe charge up times is espected from you.

Kakashi reacts to the smaller and less charge time katon. So the bigger katon gets reacted to, and he goes underground. Or even better.. If Obito is stupid enough to attempt that jutsu while being in CQC with Kakashi, he gets killed in the charge time.

-Lol at reacting to Naruto, when Naruto only attempted to save Kakashi.
-Lol at him MENTALLY reacting to minato, when first of all, he couldn't even manage to activate Kamui in front of FTG, and second of all, he needs PHYSICALL reactions in a battle where his phasing is nullyfied.
-Giant shurikens out of his eye,... already countered in Canon, or again, going underground. Mokuton gets shitstomped by raikiri, raiden, or raikiri wolf

So literally, this is why i didn't bother with your shitty logic and views on this matchup.

Yea Kakashi dodging that small katon is = to him dodging the Juubi size katon lmao. What charge time show me a scan where Obito and Madara needed a charge up time to use their katon? There isn't one. Minato ftg is faster than anything Kakashi can do in cqc.

Giant shurikens in cannon were counter by Naruto via Kurama avatar lol Kakashi lacks a Kurama avatar buddy. He's not going underground when there in cqc how many times do i have to tell you this.

Kakashi solos lol.

Boy you sound bout dumb af. Obito cancels out Kakashi kamui which means Amaterasu lites his ass up like a christmas tree

 

[The Messiah]

Tssk your back at the nonsense again huh? No that scan is proof they didn't take any longer. That still doesn't mean it takes longer you dumbass boy when they said there jutsu and it came out just like that. Just like anyother katon quit reaching you *****. Never has there ever been a charge up time to use any katon tech regardless of size i should smack you for even saying something that stupid.


Make believe charge up times is espected from you.


Yea Kakashi dodging that small katon is = to him dodging the Juubi size katon lmao. What charge time show me a scan where Obito and Madara needed a charge up time to use their katon? There isn't one. Minato ftg is faster than anything Kakashi can do in cqc.

Giant shurikens in cannon were counter by Naruto via Kurama avatar lol Kakashi lacks a Kurama avatar buddy. He's not going underground when there in cqc how many times do i have to tell you this.


Boy you sound bout dumb af. Obito cancels out Kakashi kamui which means Amaterasu lites his ass up like a christmas tree

I was assuming it's DMS Kakashi.

 

[TRE MERCER]

I was assuming it's DMS Kakashi.

That's what happens when you assume shit. You end up being wrong. Even if it was DMS Kakashi Obito and Itachi would still win. Once DMS Kakashi kills Obito. Obito warps his chakra inside Itachi make him DMS Itachi. Kamui plus Yata mirror and Totsuka means GG for DMS Kakashi




























Joking lol

 

[The Messiah]

That's what happens when you assume shit. You end up being wrong. Even if it was DMS Kakashi Obito and Itachi would still win. Once DMS Kakashi kills Obito. Obito warps his chakra inside Itachi make him DMS Itachi. Kamui plus Yata mirror and Totsuka means GG for DMS Kakashi




























Joking lol

I was joking anyway. Itachi solos like he would any matchup.

 

[EZQ]

Tssk your back at the nonsense again huh? No that scan is proof they didn't take any longer. That still doesn't mean it takes longer you dumbass boy when they said there jutsu and it came out just like that. Just like anyother katon quit reaching you *****. Never has there ever been a charge up time to use any katon tech regardless of size i should smack you for even saying something that stupid.

Lmfao, okay, lets do this on retarded mode.

A scan doesn't show how much time runs between them, so you need a parameter to measure it. By that logic, Kakashi also uses hiding like a mole in one scan with no prep.

You have the databook translation that explains cleraly that for more fire, you knead more chakra. Juubi sized Katon has more prep time than normal sized. Kakashi reacted to the fast and small one in close range, so the bigg ass katon in close range gets reacted to,and even disrupted. All i see in your post is insults, but nothing new to the table, despite your stupidity.

Make believe charge up times is espected from you.

Just in case, here's the databook translation again, but this time the size of the font will be bigger.

NINJUTSU; Katon: Goukakyuu no jutsu (Fire Release: Hulking Fireball technique)
User: Uchiha Sasuke
Offensive; Close range; Rank: C

Main text

A jutsu where the chakra kneaded inside the body is converted into fire, and expelled forward in a massive orb of roaring flame. The scope of the attack is altered by controlling the volume of chakra that is mustered. The blazes, released with a thunderous roar will engulf their target, and leave a crater on the ground's surface. That's how terrifying they are...!!

Caption

-The massive flame engulfs and vaporizes everything!!

Picture comment

-The seals to activate it are Uma (Horse) and Tora (Tiger). Sasuke already has the skill to handle that advanced technique.

Yea Kakashi dodging that small katon is = to him dodging the Juubi size katon lmao.

Okay then read again, since what i said is:
-Kakashi dodged the smaller katon in CQC, which has less prep time than the big one
-This means that he can react to a faster jutsu in that distance
-He's not dodging the big one, but since he racted to the faster one, against the big one he can 1- disrupt the charge time 2- go underground in time

What charge time show me a scan where Obito and Madara needed a charge up time to use their katon? There isn't one. Minato ftg is faster than anything Kakashi can do in cqc.

Please, before quoting me, use your brain, read the databook quote, use your logic, think why Obito didn't use the big katon in close range against Kakashi and then stop saying this nonesense. The bold is irrelevant, Obito doesn't have phasing here, so in CQC he must deal without it.

Giant shurikens in cannon were counter by Naruto via Kurama avatar lol Kakashi lacks a Kurama avatar buddy.

This was already countered with mokuton wall by Kakashi.

He's not going underground when there in cqc how many times do i have to tell you this.

Rofl so in CQC Obito is going to stop his motion to pull off the jutsu? Man, your argument is so lame

-Obito will use giant katon in close range
-Obito will fire kamui shurikens in close range

Completely ignoring that both leave an opening for Kakashi to smack him down.

 

[TRE MERCER]

A scan doesn't show how much time runs between them, so you need a parameter to measure it. By that logic, Kakashi also uses hiding like a mole in one scan with no prep.

You have the databook translation that explains cleraly that for more fire, you knead more chakra. Juubi sized Katon has more prep time than normal sized. Kakashi reacted to the fast and small one in close range, so the bigg ass katon in close range gets reacted to,and even disrupted. All i see in your post is insults, but nothing new to the table, despite your stupidity.

Your still fighting this? Hiding like a mole is completely different tech which the user burries into the ground Katon is as simple as spitting it out so ofc it uses no prep time. Size doesn't matter at all Madara used this huge Katon[

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]. Just as fast as he used this smaller katon[

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]. This is a katon tech not someone trying to amplify their MS tech which would require a charge up time you damn fool.

Okay then read again, since what i said is:
-Kakashi dodged the smaller katon in CQC, which has less prep time than the big one
-This means that he can react to a faster jutsu in that distance
-He's not dodging the big one, but since he racted to the faster one, against the big one he can 1- disrupt the charge time 2- go underground in time

Bold is featless as i've posted a scan of Madara using a huge katon just as fast as him using a small one enough with these struggle arguments boy. He' not disrupting the charge time since their is no charge time lol your just struggling so hard at this point.

Please, before quoting me, use your brain, read the databook quote, use your logic, think why Obito didn't use the big katon in close range against Kakashi and then stop saying this nonesense. The bold is irrelevant, Obito doesn't have phasing here, so in CQC he must deal without it.

Lol yes because Obito is so weak in cqc Obito reaction time has been shown far superior than Kakahsi therefor Kakashi isn't blitzing. I find it funny that Kakashi stomps Obito in cqc when in fact he never stomped any top tier in cqc hell he never even stomped any med tiers in cqc in shippuden so you missed me with those terrible arguments.

This was already countered with mokuton wall by Kakashi.

Rofl so in CQC Obito is going to stop his motion to pull off the jutsu? Man, your argument is so lame

-Obito will use giant katon in close range
-Obito will fire kamui shurikens in close range

Completely ignoring that both leave an opening for Kakashi to smack him down.

So Kakashi has Mokuton now? Lol those shurikens weren't nearly the size as the one he shot at Killer bee further more that wasn't even close range. He shoots the one he shot at Killer bee and not even a doton wall wouldn't help since they chopped right through Hachibi tails which are far more durable than Kakashi's doton. How would warping shurikens out of his eye leave him open for an attack?

Warping something out would be just as fast as warping something in. Obito managed to warp all the bombs away from konan while he was in the midst of her slicing paper. That is a far more worst scenario than Kakashi average jounin cqc skills.

 

[EZQ]

Your still fighting this? Hiding like a mole is completely different tech which the user burries into the ground Katon is as simple as spitting it out so ofc it uses no prep time.

And you're still grasping. Yes, it has prep time, and the bigger the fire, the bigger the prep time. Still, using your "scan=time" logic, Kakashi INSTANTLY used hiding like a mole, lol, so stop this nonesense.

Size doesn't matter at all Madara used this huge Katon[

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]. Just as fast as he used this smaller katon[

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]. This is a katon tech not someone trying to amplify their MS tech which would require a charge up time you damn fool.

Lmao okay tre. I was really hoping you were joking or something. You're LITERALLY using a scan to show that things are made without prep. How much more retard can you get?

-In the "smaller" katon YOU LINKED YOURSELF you see the prep time, since yeah dude, this wasn't instant, unless Onoki and Tsunade speaking was also instant, lol

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So, you "damn fool", again, CHECK the databook entry, that states that the size of the attacks depends on how much chakra is mustered. If it was otherwise, Obito would've used the big katon against Kakashi.. Really, Tre, don't be stupid. Your opinion on this base is trash to everyone, i think it's time to stop being so stupid and learn things, like in this case, how this jutsu works.

Bold is featless as i've posted a scan of Madara using a huge katon just as fast as him using a small one enough with these struggle arguments boy. He' not disrupting the charge time since their is no charge time lol your just struggling so hard at this point.

Okay, I show you a scan where Kakashi goes below the ground without prep, since he also did it in one scan, which means instant. (I really hope you see how stupid you sound right now)

Lol yes because Obito is so weak in cqc Obito reaction time has been shown far superior than Kakahsi

Lmao, Obito's MENTAL reaction failed to FTG and Susano arrows, and PHYSICALL reactions he has none. Kakashi's mental reaction >>> susano arrow covering 10-15m , and his physicall reactions and speed shit all over Obito's by feats.

therefor Kakashi isn't blitzing.

Agreed and irrelevant. I never implied a speed blitz. He pressures Obito with superior speed and CQC.

I find it funny that Kakashi stomps Obito in cqc when in fact he never stomped any top tier in cqc hell he never even stomped any med tiers in cqc in shippuden so you missed me with those terrible arguments.

Kakashi's feats:

-Dealing with Hidan, a CQC expert despite being also pressured by Kakuz's masks
-Dealing with 4 v2 jins at the same time and slicing their attacks with raiden (While Gai was handling the 5 tails and Bee and Naruto were fighting the 4 tails)

^Just the most important ones

Obito's CQC feats without Kamui

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So Kakashi has Mokuton now? Lol those shurikens weren't nearly the size as the one he shot at Killer bee further more that wasn't even close range.

I meant Doton wall. And the size is irrelevant. Kakashi only needs to cover the area that blocks HIS BODY from any incoming Shurikens. And lol, it wasn't close range because Obito can't just stop his motion to do the hand seals and leave a huge oppening to Kakashi while the latter is at a close range.

He shoots the one he shot at Killer bee and not even a doton wall wouldn't help since they chopped right through Hachibi tails which are far more durable than Kakashi's doton. How would warping shurikens out of his eye leave him open for an attack?

Lmao at the bold. Kakashi's doton is a lot thicker, and for the shurikens to actually harm him they must go trough the whole thick wall and still pack enough momentum to reach Kakashi at a considerable speed. And the momentum of those shurikens themselves is lame since they failed to go trough the tentacles and just pierced them and got stuck mid way. And lol, feats of ANY CHARACTER pulling off a jutsu like that while fighting on CQC? Every jutsu needs concentration, and leaves an oppening.

Warping something out would be just as fast as warping something in. Obito managed to warp all the bombs away from konan while he was in the midst of her slicing paper. That is a far more worst scenario than Kakashi average jounin cqc skills.

Kakashi already reacted to this, i don't know how else would you bring more stupidity to the table. I was PM'd yesterday to stop this argument with you, because you're a retard, and i'm starting to believe it's true.

If only this shit had judges and you stoped replying to me with your nonensense.. because if i stop replying to your shitty post then you go around believing your post was good