My Favorite Thing About Rape Culture

[ComplexCity]

Says you.



Definition of rape culture has always been debated and a source of conflicting views, including the argument that it's a product of certain aspects of American culture(You know American culture started as a patriarchy right? That being the aspect that is argued to lead to rape culture in this case). Even what you claim those feminists you probably made up said isn't the same as saying that rape culture IS American culture.

Except feminist argue that the patriarchy is integrated in American culture in which (cis white) males directly or indirectly are privileged because of it, making it part of American culture :sdo:


More ad hominems instead of addressing the arguments and a strawman in one? You're on a role. You're trying to establish something that's still being debated and something that's not even amenably excepted? You're a effing clown


I don't care if you believe me or not, you can't prove that I made it up since I don't care about stupid feminism enough to do that. Now I'll ask you, who's right, the people who have agreed that is a part of American culture, or you?

 

[Punk Hazard]

More ad hominems instead of addressing the arguments and a strawman in one? You're on a role. You're trying to establish something that's still being debated and something that's not even amenably excepted? You're a effing clown


I don't care if you believe me or not, you can't prove that I made it up since I don't care about stupid feminism enough to do that. Now I'll ask you, who's right, the people who have agreed that is a part of American culture, or you?

I'd argue that they're wrong the same way that I've argued you wrong.

 

[ComplexCity]

I'd argue that they're wrong the same way that I've argued you wrong.

Guy has literally zero argument



Not only haven't you addressed the rest of my points, you just literally said it's still a debated topic and looked at with conflicted views (meaning it's not a fact) but yet you believe it's right and every other feminist is wrong because you say so.

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I'm done with you, have a nice day Riker the Clown

 

[Punk Hazard]

Guy has literally zero argument



You just literally said it's still a debated topic and looked at with conflicted views (meaning it's not a fact) but yet you believe it's right and every other feminist is wrong because you say so.

You literally think you're right and everyone who says it's real is wrong for the same reason. And not every other feminist is wrong. You talk to a few feminists in your imagination, and you think you know how every single feminist in the world feels about the definition of rape culture? Because I can find articles written by feminists that express what I've said here

What's debated is rape culture's role in overall culture. The constant that remains the same is it trivializes and normalizes rape and sexual assault. What's debated are what social and/or cultural norms cause it, if any, and what role it plays in American society, if any. Some argue it's caused by latent functions from the patriarch-based society that America used to be, some argue that it isn't an integrated part of American society despite these links of causation, and others used to argue that it was synonymous with American culture itself, but that viewpoint is outdated and no longer accepted.

Despite these conflicts, it remains constant that rape culture, whatever its basis or role, trivializes or normalizes rape. And that is what I'm arguing: the fact that you can find cases of people trivializing and normalizing rape is proof that rape culture is real.

And before you say "How can rape culture be real if people argue about its definition," sociologists to this day argue about the definition of racism. Are you going to say in here that that means racism doesn't exist because there are conflicting viewpoints on what defines it?

 

[ComplexCity]

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Nah RTC, you had your chance literally done because you've shown me and every other persons in this thread that not only are you illiterate, but you demonstrate monstrous levels of cognative dissonance of people who oppose your views. Then you act condescending to those on top of that when you haven't validated your claims not once with any reputable sources. Then admitted that's it's not even an accepted term within your group after I asked people who labelled themselves as "true feminist" what rape culture is and guess what? To no surprise, both your answers conflicted.


Literally done debating with you, you're a moronic idiot like Ambivalence said and it's better to just avoid you altogether, now I see why people avoid discussion with you, to save themselves from cancer

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Have a nice day

 

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Nah RTC, you had your chance literally done because you've shown me and every other persons in this thread that not only are you illiterate, but you demonstrate monstrous levels of cognative dissonance of people who oppose your views. Then you act condescending to those on top of that when you haven't validated your claims not once with any reputable sources.

LOL what? I provided real-life examples from 2016 of people trivializing and normalizing rape and sexual assault. Credible sources can be found from PhD. holders

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The film that coined the term, fittingly entitled "Rape Culture," defined it as normalizing rape from the very beginning, even though it erroneously attributed this to being synonymous with culture, and even that film addresses the rape of men all the way back in the late 70s.

In the Cultural Struggle, written by philosopher Martin Parenti, he argues that rape culture takes the form of accepting rape as an everyday occurrence, blaming victims, the lasting effects of historical stigmatization, and authority figures' apathy, with many of these being things that I've brought up. Notice that even though he doesn't say it's synonymous with American culture like the original definition, the core definition(normalization and trivialization) is intact here. It's obvious that you've done no research on the matter, otherwise you'd have known this.

Then admitted that's it's not even an accepted term within your group after I asked people who labelled themselves as "true feminist" what rape culture is and guess what? To no surprise, both your answers conflicted.

I never said this. I said precise definitions are subject to debate, but the term is accepted among feminists as well as its core definition: normalizing and trivializing rape, which can be seen with the above examples of people who have conflicting ideas of what the precise definition of rape culture is in relation to American culture, but all agree that it occurs when rape and sexual assault is trivialized and normalized.

Literally done debating with you, you're a moronic idiot like Ambivalence said and it's better to just avoid you altogether, now I see why people avoid discussion with you

Yet when I don't reply, you circlejerk my name until I do, every thread you make.

Also notice that you conveniently chose to ignore my racism argument.

 

[ComplexCity]

Riker exibithing selective memory?
Riker doesn't display idiocy?
Riker has the feat of intelligence?

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Definition of rape culture has always been debated and a source of conflicting views, including the argument that it's a product of certain aspects of American culture.

I never said this. I said precise definitions are subject to debate, but the term is accepted among feminists as well as its core definition:

We all already know Riker fails to do anything when faced with facts and logic as evident by his cute "absolutely incorrect".

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Riker exibithing selective memory?
Riker doesn't display idiocy?
Riker has the feat of intelligence?

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You select two posts where I said "Definition of rape culture is a source of debate," with both elaborating on what specific aspects are debated, and you think those are contradictions?

 

[ComplexCity]

Riker exibithing selective memory?
Riker doesn't display idiocy?
Riker has the feat of intelligence?

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Definition of rape culture has always been debated and a source of conflicting views, including the argument that it's a product of certain aspects of American culture.

I never said this. I said precise definitions are subject to debate, but the term is accepted among feminists as well as its core definition:

We all already know Riker fails to do anything when faced with facts and logic as evident by his cute "absolutely incorrect".

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[Punk Hazard]

Riker exibithing selective memory?
Riker doesn't display idiocy?
Riker has the feat of intelligence?

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Once again, those don't contradict each other. You said it can't exist because its definition is debated among feminists. I replied saying despite these debates, all of the definitions say it occurs when rape is trivialized and normalized. I also mentioned that sociologists debate the definition of racism, and asked you if that means that racism doesn't exist.

You conveniently ignored my question about racism, and changed your claim from "the definition is debated among feminists" to "there are feminists that outright reject the term."

I then replied saying I never said anything about feminists rejecting the term. The problem here is that you're trying to pass off "its definition is debated within the feminist community" and "there are feminist that outright reject the term entirely" as the same argument, which they aren't, and is just you moving the goalposts.

 

[ComplexCity]

Once again, those don't contradict each other. You said it can't exist because its definition is debated among feminists. I replied saying despite these debates, all of the definitions say it occurs when rape is trivialized and normalized. I also mentioned that sociologists debate the definition of racism, and asked you if that means that racism doesn't exist.

You conveniently ignored my question about racism, and changed your claim from "the definition is debated among feminists" to "there are feminists that outright reject the term."

I then replied saying I never said anything about feminists rejecting the term. The problem here is that you're trying to pass off "its definition is debated within the feminist community" and "there are feminist that outright reject the term entirely" as the same argument, which they aren't, and is just you moving the goalposts.

Riker exibithing selective memory?
Riker doesn't display idiocy?
Riker has the feat of intelligence?

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Definition of rape culture has always been debated and a source of conflicting views, including the argument that it's a product of certain aspects of American culture.

I never said this. I said precise definitions are subject to debate, but the term is accepted among feminists as well as its core definition:

We all already know Riker fails to do anything when faced with facts and logic as evident by his cute "absolutely incorrect".

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[ComplexCity]

Look at all them dislikes, I count 11

 

[Punk Hazard]

Look at all them dislikes, I count 11

A collection of people infamous for their bigotry and ignorance. Quite a posse.

 

[ComplexCity]

A collection of people infamous for their bigotry and ignorance. Quite a posse.

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[Punk Hazard]

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Outstanding rhetoric.

 

[Adam Driver]

Outstanding rhetoric.

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OT: Rape culture is very real. The problem with people not understanding this, especially nowadays is that many don't see rape as a significant problem. People see it as *** when the two aren't even remotely the same. And many people that are ignorant of this topic and see that it's okay to blame a rape victim i.e. If it's a woman that's dressed in a sexy manner that would arouse another, would blame her being the victim of rape by how she was dressing. Just a few examples there, but rape culture is seen just about everywhere tbh and those that don't notice it either find it as the norm which it unfortunately is in today's society or are ignorant of the topic itself. Seriously you don't have to be a feminist to see it, I'm not, hell I find most feminists cringeworthy but rape culture is certainly widespread among the globe.





@ complexcity, nearly every thread you're associated with in gds all you manage to do majority of the time is insult others than have a collective conversation about the actual topic. That's probably why there's a line dashed across you're name at the moment.

 

[YowYan]

Guy has literally zero argument



Not only haven't you addressed the rest of my points, you just literally said it's still a debated topic and looked at with conflicted views (meaning it's not a fact) but yet you believe it's right and every other feminist is wrong because you say so.

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I'm done with you, have a nice day Riker the Clown

what an eyesore

 

[HashiraMadara]

Shit still continuing

 

[Punk Hazard]

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OT: Rape culture is very real. The problem with people not understanding this, especially nowadays is that many don't see rape as a significant problem. People see it as *** when the two aren't even remotely the same. And many people that are ignorant of this topic and see that it's okay to blame a rape victim i.e. If it's a woman that's dressed in a sexy manner that would arouse another, would blame her being the victim of rape by how she was dressing. Just a few examples there, but rape culture is seen just about everywhere tbh and those that don't notice it either find it as the norm which it unfortunately is in today's society or are ignorant of the topic itself. Seriously you don't have to be a feminist to see it, I'm not, hell I find most feminists cringeworthy but rape culture is certainly widespread among the globe.





@ complexcity, nearly every thread you're associated with in gds all you manage to do majority of the time is insult others than have a collective conversation about the actual topic. That's probably why there's a line dashed across you're name at the moment.

You know what the biggest problem with the "how was she dressed" thing? It implies that the way a woman was dressed left the rapist without any control to the point that they couldn't keep themselves from committing the rape.

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[BlacLord™]

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Feminazi: Man-hating, believes women are superior
Feminist: Someone who believes the sexes should be treated equally.

This whole propaganda that the two are the same is something born of ignorance (wilful or not), or the asinine ramblings of a child looking to be edgy or for attention. Margaret Atwood is a feminist, Susan Brownmiller is a feminazi. Good grief, Wollstonecraft would be spinning in her grave if she witnessed the radical branch of feminism that had sprung.