My Favorite Thing About Rape Culture

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

To reiterate- it's not a literal culture but still a fitting use of the word. It's become systematically overlooked and under-punished.

Society accepting it as a sad-but-happens act and teaching women (not men) to change their behaviour is a cultural and social thing. People like Dylan Roof are free right now because of a society that failed, not a couple individuals. He also did what he did because he was taught that was something that men can do and that other Uni students do the same.

On Uni campuses and nightlife especially (also what I can speak with actual experience from) it is not only existent but unavoidable. Anything more is straightup denial my friend. It's not against you, it's not some conspiracy or threat against men globally...but where is the harm in taking issues like this more seriously?

Nothing about my post made me sound remotely feminist. Can make my points without it considering this is such a universally black & white issue.

 

[Punk Hazard]

To reiterate- it's not a literal culture but still a fitting use of the word. It's become systematically overlooked and under-punished.

Society accepting it as a sad-but-happens act and teaching women (not men) to change their behaviour is a cultural and social thing. People like Dylan Roof are free right now because of a society that failed, not a couple individuals. He also did what he did because he was taught that was something that men can do and that other Uni students do the same.

On Uni campuses and nightlife especially (also what I can speak with actual experience from) it is not only existent but unavoidable. Anything more is straightup denial my friend. It's not against you, it's not some conspiracy or threat against men globally...but where is the harm in taking issues like this more seriously?

Nothing about my post made me sound remotely feminist. Can make my points without it considering this is such a universally black & white issue.

You said Dylan Roof, did you mean Brock Turner? Roof was the guy who shot up a black church.

 

[Kishi Uzumaki]

So from rape victims beautiful women feel more torment than who that's not ? i wonder if someone with a brain could come up with such a logic .

 

[Punk Hazard]

So from rape victims beautiful women feel more torment than who that's not ? i wonder if someone with a brain could come up with such a logic .

What are you trying to say fam?

 

[Kishi Uzumaki]

What are you trying to say fam?

I'm just trying to say is it doesn't matter if woman is beautiful or not they can become rape victims or get harassed or abused though there's contradictions in this thing called rape culture or am i missing something ? i mean i don't take the politics to consideration .

 

[YowYan]

Exactly what you just said (if it were real anyway). Just inserted fat into your logic

We also live in a culture where women have more legal privileges than men do as well as have advantages men don't


No persons glorifies rape so I don't know what you're talking about

Sadly, I've met several Men that glorified rape and not in a joking manner.


And if not glorifying rape, they'll definitely objectify women. It's a norm. Always has been. Name me one guy You personally know that has been gangraped by women after being drugged. I can name You a handful of women that I know personally that went Through Just that.


I agree, It's disgusting how some females use this fact in their benefit by lying about being harrassed by a male. Those women are beyond shameful. Especially when You think of the ones that actually suffer every moment of the day for the rest of their shit lives, the ones that actually have been abused and worse, that haven't received justice. It's a huge slap in the face for them.

 

[ComplexCity]

Sadly, I've met several Men that glorified rape and not in a joking manner.


And if not glorifying rape, they'll definitely objectify women. It's a norm. Always has been. Name me one guy You personally know that has been gangraped by women after being drugged. I can name You a handful of women that I personally that went Through Just that.


I agree, It's disgusting how some females use this fact in their benefit by lying about being harrassed by a male. Those women are beyond shameful. Especially when You think of the ones that actually suffer every moment of the day for the rest of their shit lives, the ones that actually have been abused and worse, that haven't received justice. It's a huge slap in the face for them.

Read what Fiji said I'm not repeating things that have already been answered

 

[Punk Hazard]

I'm just trying to say is it doesn't matter if woman is beautiful or not they can become rape victims or get harassed or abused though there's contradictions in this thing called rape culture or am i missing something ? i mean i don't take the politics to consideration .

That's not a part of rape culture...

 

[YowYan]

Read what Fiji said I'm not repeating things that have already been answered

I'm on my cellphone as I Just took the train in Amsterdam central towards my hometown. Care To quote fiji's post for me? Cba To search 7 pages.

 

[ComplexCity]

I'm on my cellphone as I Just took the train in Amsterdam central towards my hometown. Care To quote fiji's post for me? Cba To search 7 pages.

For starters, you're citing Wikipedia as your source, when in an academia, citing Wikipedia as a source is unreliable and avoided; I've been taught this since middle school. The only other place the wiki's definition coincides with an already existing definition of rape culture is in third wave feminist blogs and articles.

But why is it that third wave feminist's definition of rape culture no longer defines rape culture as a "culture", but as a "setting" or "environment" when compared to second wave feminist's original definition of rape culture, which is used in a vast majority of scholarly journals, that defines rape culture as a "culture", "society", or "societal influence"? Why is it when women's right activist fight against so called rape culture, that they do not target the individual microaggression's that they claim to be defined as rape culture, but try to hold American culture, the media, and society as a whole accountable for rape culture? This is a simple case of "moving the goal post" fallacy. My problem with your argument is that you base it upon a faulty definition of rape culture.

I'd personally disrobe your claims of "blaming the victim", but I believe God Stefan Molyneux does a better job of doing that then I could. I've set to the point where he begins making his argument, so I dont have to force you to watch through an hour long video. (Should it not work, the time is 1:03:09-1:05:15)

Here ya go

 

[YowYan]

Here ya go

Thank You.

So, am I supposed To watch the video for yours and his point To come across?

I used To call myself a feminist, but later on realized the proper label should Be; pro equal rights advocate. I do not defend feminist arguments as they're divisive (in general) so I don't See anything relating To my original post.

 

[ComplexCity]

To reiterate- it's not a literal culture but still a fitting use of the word. It's become systematically overlooked and under-punished.

This has been established, feminist have taken another word and made it into something they created. Where we are supposed to just discard the meaning of a word because they said so. Systematically under punished? By who's accord?

Society accepting it as a sad-but-happens act and teaching women (not men) to change their behaviour

Because the kids that are taught in society that killing is wrong grow up to never kill an individual ever again. What were statistics for murder again? I don't remember if it said zero. i think there were lots of zeros in it

is a cultural and social thing.

Riker has already established that it's not cultural so this point is moot

People like Dylan Roof are free right now because of a society that failed, not a couple individuals. He also did what he did because he was taught that was something that men can do and that other Uni students do the same.

No Brock Turner is free because of a messed up judicial system. The same system that let George Zimmerman and Casey Anthony free.

On Uni campuses and nightlife especially (also what I can speak with actual experience from) it is not only existent but unavoidable.

So rape's not avoidable in the UK? I'll asks someone I know from Coventry if that's true or not

Anything more is straightup denial my friend. It's not against you, it's not some conspiracy or threat against men globally...but where is the harm in taking issues like this more seriously?

I don't care how you view it as, there's no proof that we live in (America) a rape culture. Riker has no credible backings other than the feminist interpretation of it. He thinks parroting his beliefs will somehow change something

Nothing about my post made me sound remotely feminist. Can make my points without it considering this is such a universally black & white issue.

Well stop making comments that feminist would make and I won't say stuff like that

 

[ComplexCity]

Thank You.

So, am I supposed To watch the video for yours and his point To come across?

I used To call myself a feminist, but later on realized the proper label should Be; pro equal rights advocate. I do not defend feminist arguments as they're divisive (in general) so I don't See anything relating To my original post.

*Egalitarianism

You're Welcome

And it's not my video, just found out about the guy today. He put it there so I would imagine you are supposed to watch it

That's not a part of rape culture...

Because you say so?

 

[Punk Hazard]

*Egalitarianism

Feminism falls under this.

Because you say so?

What part of anything regarding rape culture says that beautiful rape victims are worth more attention that ugly ones?

 

[YowYan]

*Egalitarianism

You're Welcome

And it's not my video, just found out about the guy today. He put it there so I would imagine you are supposed to watch it



Because you say so?

Yep. That's also one of many terms that relate.
Anywho, the vid does not address My point, nor is it trying To deny the obvious I mentioned so I've got nothing to add.

 

[ComplexCity]

Feminism falls under this.

Just like radical feminism falls under feminism

Egalitarianism =/= feminism (not synonymous)

That's not a part of rape culture..

Because you say so?What part of anything regarding rape culture says that beautiful rape victims are worth more attention that ugly ones?

I'll answer this when you answer my other points as well as every one elses

 

[ComplexCity]

Yep. That's also one of many terms that relate.
Anywho, the vid does not address My point, nor is it trying To deny the obvious I mentioned so I've got nothing to add.

The video is an hr long so I doubt you watched the whole thing

 

[Punk Hazard]

Just like radical feminism falls under feminism

Egalitarianism =/= feminism (not synonymous)

I didn't say they were, and no, radical feminism is separate.

I'll answer this when you answer my other points as well as every one elses

So you have no answer then?

 

[YowYan]

The video is an hr long so I doubt you watched the whole thing

The part Fiji mentioned was but two minutes long. Read near the end of his post.

 

[ComplexCity]

I didn't say they were, and no, radical feminism is separate.

Because you say so?

It's not separate, it's a subset of feminism. Let me bring the facts like I always have to do

"The no true scotsman fallacy is a way of reinterpreting evidence in order to prevent the refutation of one’s position. Proposed counter-examples to a theory are dismissed as irrelevant solely because they are counter-examples, but purportedly because they are not what the theory is about."

"The No True Scotsman fallacy involves discounting evidence that would refute a proposition, concluding that it hasn’t been falsified when in fact it has.
If Angus, a Glaswegian, who puts sugar on his porridge, is proposed as a counter-example to the claim “No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge”, the ‘No true Scotsman’ fallacy would run as follows:
(1) Angus puts sugar on his porridge.
(2) No (true) Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
Therefore:
(3) Angus is not a (true) Scotsman.
Therefore:
(4) Angus is not a counter-example to the claim that no Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

So you have no answer then?

Not playing this game, I've made my demands clear

The part Fiji mentioned was but two minutes long. Read near the end of his post.

Thought you meant the whole thing. To respond to your post as short as I can, just because it is something that a few individuals do (such as in the minority) doesn't mean we can label it a culture. The same way we cannot say America is a Spanish culture despite having many factors that would make it a spanish culture. When I said no one, I should have said minorities do it