My Favorite Thing About Rape Culture

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Aight, I'm gonna try to make this as thorough and simple as I can.
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To determine if rape culture is real, the first thing we have to do is define rape culture. First thing to get out of the way: Rape culture is NOT a culture. If the basis of your argument is "You can't call this a culture," then that means that you haven't actually made an attempt to learn what rape culture is. You look at the name, see culture, and assume that it LITERALLY means a culture. You're basing your argument solely on the name of the concept, which is ignorance.

There are those who argue that the fact that the presence of rape culture in America is the product of certain social and cultural norms that once existed, such as males having a higher socioeconomic and political standings than women, but rape culture itself is not meant to refer to an actual culture.

Now, for the actual definition of rape culture: Rape culture means a setting where rape and sexual assault are normalized. Rape culture is a title given to the trivialization of rape and sexual assault. To determine if the term(rape culture) exists, we have to ask ourselves, do the concepts that the title refers to(instances of rape/sexual assault being trivialized and normalized) occur.

The answer to that is, "Yes." I bring up Donald Trump's words because that's an example of someone trivializing and normalizing acts of sexual assault. I bring up Brock Turner and other judges because those are examples of people trivializing rape. Rape is trivialized when people blame people who are raped for the clothing they are worn inside of assigning the blame to the actual rapist. Rape is trivialized when the rape of men is made into a joke instead of being addressed as something serious.

The concepts that the term "rape culture" refer to are observable as something that actually happens. Therefore, rape culture is indeed real. No, it's not a literal, actual culture, it's simply a term created to describe a specific phenomena that takes several forms. You can argue that the use of the word "culture" for the title is wrong, but that not that the concepts it refers to doesn't exist.

But rape is not normalized in western world. It's just that feminists have twisted and broadened that definition of rape to ridiculous levels.

  • Regret =/= rape
  • Getting wasted and banging some random dude is not rape
  • Private talks about women with buddies is not rape

The above things that I listed are passed off as rape by feminists. Hell, there even exists such a thing as "Stare rape" or whatever they call it. And you damn sure must know how many women file for false rape allegations, wasting police's time and taxpayers' money.

It's natural when you cry wolf enough times, people will hardly believe you.
 

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But rape is not normalized in western world.

Except there are examples CURRENTLY happening of rape being trivialized and normalized. I think you people don't understand what "normalize" means in this context. It's not rape being made a part of ordinary life, it's when people take cases and examples of rape and try to make them seem less dark and evil than they actually are.

It's just that feminists have twisted and broadened that definition of rape to ridiculous levels.

Ironic because it was feminist rallying that got the FBI's definition of rape changed so that it would include men and be more specific as to what rape actually is.

Getting wasted and banging some random dude is not rape
Yes, it is. Rape is *** without consent. Consent cannot be valid if a person is severely inebriated mentally. Man or woman, if you give consent while drunk, it's not valid consent.

Private talks about women with buddies is not rape
No one said that Donald Trump talking to his buddies about the sexual assaults he committed is rape. People are against this because he confessed to committing sexual assault, he confessed that he does it often, and he plays off the sexual assault as something funny and something to brag about. He says he goes and kisses women without waiting, he just does it, which is a confession to sexual assault.

The fact this is played off as "locker room talk" is an example of the phenomenon of rape culture.


The above things that I listed are passed off as rape by feminist extremists*. Hell, there even exists such a thing as "Stare rape" or whatever they call it.
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And you damn sure must know how many women file for false rape allegations, wasting police's time and taxpayers' money.
What does this have to do with actual rape cases? This doesn't invalidate the fact that there are instances where people trivialize rape.
 

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Except there are examples CURRENTLY happening of rape being trivialized and normalized. I think you people don't understand what "normalize" means in this context. It's not rape being made a part of ordinary life, it's when people take cases and examples of rape and try to make them seem less dark and evil than they actually are.
I understand that term, and I don't think this happens in Western world.

Yes, it is. Rape is *** without consent. Consent cannot be valid if a person is severely inebriated mentally. Man or woman, if you give consent while drunk, it's not valid consent.
No. If you are an adult and can't even drink responsibly, you either need to stop going to bars or don't call it rape.

No one said that Donald Trump talking to his buddies about the sexual assaults he committed is rape. People are against this because he confessed to committing sexual assault, he confessed that he does it often, and he plays off the sexual assault as something funny and something to brag about. He says he goes and kisses women without waiting, he just does it, which is a confession to sexual assault.
It is what it is, just a joke. And if women have no problem with him doing it, then it's no harm.

The fact this is played off as "locker room talk" is an example of the phenomenon of rape culture.
There is such thing as 'Privacy'.

What does this have to do with actual rape cases? This doesn't invalidate the fact that there are instances where people trivialize rape.
These women filing for false rape cases are the ones involved in what you call trivializing rape.
 

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I understand that term, and I don't think this happens in Western world.

Which part of the world did these examples happen again?


No. If you are an adult and can't even drink responsibly, you either need to stop going to bars or don't call it rape.
You are to blame for getting drunk, yes. But the responsibility isn't on the person who's drunk to not get raped. It's the responsibility of the person aiming to have *** with this person to realize that they're not in a state where their consent is valid.


It is what it is, just a joke. And if women have no problem with him doing it, then it's no harm.

This is exactly what rape culture is. Calling Trump's confession that he commits sexual assault multiple times "just a joke." Trump confesses that he actually, in real life commits sexual assault, and instead of treating it as such, you make it into a trivial joke.


There is such thing as 'Privacy'.
Confessing to sexual assault in private is supposed to change that you confessed to sexual assault?


These women filing for false rape cases are the ones involved in what you call trivializing rape.
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Donald Trump confessed that he sexually assaulted women.

Brock Turner was caught by two witnesses and was deemed guilty.

The kid named Austin in one of the examples I listed was also found guilty.

People, in America, say "what was she wearing" in cases of rape whether the person is guilty or not.

Media outlets have referred to convicted teenager rapists as "aspiring stars" with their "careers in sports ruined."

American media, including The Boondocks, Family Guy, Saturday Night Live, The Office, and even kids' shows like Spongebob, Power Puff Girls, Looney Tunes, and Rocko's Modern Life make prison rape into a joke. Male rape in prison is the punchline of many jokes, most famously "Don't drop the soap."
 

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Well the dictionary says culture is dot dot dot,"now we can confidently come to the conclusion that rape culture exists". If that is not the worst case of circular logic fallacy, I don't know what is. To prove something exists one must first provide evidence. Giving a half ass definition of culture, and then claiming rape culture exists makes absolutely no sense.

ex. Suicide Culture exists, but just because not all U.S. citizens partake in it doesn't mean does not exist. Culture is defined as dot dot dot "Now, with that definition we can confidently come to the conclusion that suicide culture does exist, surely not everybody practices suicide culture, but it does exist and it's obvious to those who actually pay attention to world."

Reading through your entire comment, I'm seeing logical fallacies left and right; ad homs, equivocation, all bundled up in circular logic. Please, just stop.

The word culture was used for a reason, but maybe if you weren't so narrow minded and looked beyond the word and at least tried to connect the examples provided to you to the real meaning of rape culture, maybe then you'd understand. Until then, take your own advice and just stop.
 

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Except there are examples CURRENTLY happening of rape being trivialized and normalized.

Trivialized by some =/= make it a majority for the general people in the US. Like I said, you're exhibiting delusional syndrome where you feminist twist a word to fit your narrative. You still have not disproved that we don't live in a Latino culture when I have used your logic to back my points. Rape is not normalized in this country unless you can show me empirical evidence of rapist not even having to take legal action when rapes occur OR when the mass audience is glorifying the rapist for raping someone. You're not even realizing that there are always outliers when it comes to something like this. You just look at those outliers and then determine that it's a culture without even providing evidence that those outliers make up the majority

I think you people don't understand what "normalize" means in this context. It's not rape being made a part of ordinary life, it's when people take cases and examples of rape and try to make them seem less dark and evil than they actually are
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Again, using the actions of a few individuals to make your claim. You're such a hypocrite because when I say the same thing about feminist you use the no scottsman fallacy (no the two aren't don't fall under this category because rape is not an ideology so please don't even try arguing that it is)

Ironic because it was feminist rallying that got the FBI's definition of rape changed so that it would include men and be more specific as to what rape actually is.

"Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a *** organ of another person, without the consent of the victim." Doesn't seem like they included women being rapist. That's a good step though, when real feminism existed


No one said that Donald Trump talking to his buddies about the sexual assaults he committed is rape. People are against this because he confessed to committing sexual assault, he confessed that he does it often, and he plays off the sexual assault as something funny and something to brag about. He says he goes and kisses women without waiting, he just does it, which is a confession to sexual assault

Yet you people believe it? How is that a part of rape culture when both men and women talk like this? Especially if it's being done in privacy most of the time?


The fact this is played off as "locker room talk" is an example of the phenomenon of rape culture

No it isn't

To determine if rape culture is real, the first thing we have to do is define rape culture. First thing to get out of the way: Rape culture is NOT a culture. If the basis of your argument is "You can't call this a culture," then that means that you haven't actually made an attempt to learn what rape culture is.

Also here, you like every other fem tard are doing exactly what I said you do earlier. You want us to accept something that was coined by your movement despite it being made up to fit your narratives.

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If I made up a phenomenon about women being sluts and tried to pass it off as something to be accepted, would you accept the term despite there being instances of said phenomenon?





At it again with the No Scottsman huh? I already asked if feminazi don't represent feminism if they do things in the name of feminism and justify their actions by such, then what are they representing? Hint: It isn't Islam

What does this have to do with actual rape cases? This doesn't invalidate the fact that there are instances where people trivialize rape.

Still waiting for you to refute that we don't live in a Spanish Culture

Rape is fact. That is essentially what we are arguing. How we are normalising rape in our society?

This question doesn't make sense but I'll answer the former. I never stated rape wasn't a fact. The fact that it's being normalize based off the actions of a few to deem it a "culture" and something made up by feminist to flip the definition to fit their narrative is what's being argued.


You beefing over a word is senseless.

I'm not beefing over anything.
 
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The word culture was used for a reason, but maybe if you weren't so narrow minded and looked beyond the word and at least tried to connect the examples provided to you to the real meaning of rape culture, maybe then you'd understand. Until then, take your own advice and just stop.

Culture is used when defined into a countries way of living, Riker said it isn't. Neither one of you are making sense


Stefan's videos are always an absolute pleasure to watch. I concur with that a 100%.

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Which part of the world did these examples happen again?
Your examples does not classify as rape normalization.

You are to blame for getting drunk, yes. But the responsibility isn't on the person who's drunk to not get raped. It's the responsibility of the person aiming to have *** with this person to realize that they're not in a state where their consent is valid.
Now this is utterly retarded. When you are an adult, you have to watch out for yourself out there. The whole world is not your damn safe space. The person trying to hit it isn't her/his parent to begin with. You reap what you sow.

This is exactly what rape culture is. Calling Trump's confession that he commits sexual assault multiple times "just a joke." Trump confesses that he actually, in real life commits sexual assault, and instead of treating it as such, you make it into a trivial joke.
But he didn't actually do anything that can be classified as rape. Talking and doing are two different things.

Media outlets have referred to convicted teenager rapists as "aspiring stars" with their "careers in sports ruined."
There was also this baseball player whose career got ruined because of an alleged false rape case. What do you have to say about that?

American media, including The Boondocks, Family Guy, Saturday Night Live, The Office, and even kids' shows like Spongebob, Power Puff Girls, Looney Tunes, and Rocko's Modern Life make prison rape into a joke. Male rape in prison is the punchline of many jokes, most famously "Don't drop the soap."
Thank the single mother epidemic for men being in jail in the first place. And they don't even care about those men who get raped, but when it's a female, it's a national news.
 

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Now this is utterly retarded. When you are an adult, you have to watch out for yourself out there. The whole world is not your damn safe space. The person trying to hit it isn't her/his parent to begin with. You reap what you sow.

Man, you're about to get alot of heat for that statement
 

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In general, you shouldn't be having *** with drunk people. However, the main issue with the whole "intoxicated/rape" thing is this: What if both people engaging in *** are equally or almost equally drunk when it occurred? Then who raped who? Was it a double rape or...? :wut:

I mean in a lot of so-called "drunk rape" cases both parties were drunk........
 
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I didn't drop the soap :lol​

"STOP IT Now!!! YOU ARE THE REASON RAPE CULTURE EXIST" - Riker


Been told that KY Intense has some kind of burning effect by my ex. Better not let him catch you bending :lol

In general, you shouldn't be having *** with drunk people. However, the main issuewith the whole "intoxicated/rape" thing is this: What if both people engaging in *** are equally or almost equally drunk when it occurred? Then who raped who? Was it a double rape or...? :wut:

I mean in a lot of so-called "drunk rape" cases both parties were drunk........

I like how you ignored my question
 
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Now this is utterly retarded. When you are an adult, you have to watch out for yourself out there. The whole world is not your damn safe space. The person trying to hit it isn't her/his parent to begin with. You reap what you sow.

Prime example of rape culture.
 

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Culture is used when defined into a countries way of living, Riker said it isn't. Neither one of you are making sense




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He chats about a host of issues relating to rape, such as the fallacy that "men can't be raped", prison rape, getting raped while drunk and so forth. He's basically expatiating upon the hypocrisy many people exhibit when they chat about these issues relating to "rape culture".
 

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He chats about a host of issues relating to rape, such as the fallacy that "men can't be raped", prison rape, getting raped while drunk and so forth. He's basically expatiating upon the hypocrisy many people exhibit when they chat about these issues relating to "rape culture".

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Prime example of rape culture.


Guess we've taken the DumberNeekX route.


He isn't wrong about his end sentence though. The rest I disagree with if they both aren't drunk

How am I supposed to know if the person is so ****ed up he can't even give his consent? I am not going sober in a bar, so I would be a little/more drunk obviously.
 

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How am I supposed to know if the person is so ****ed up he can't even give his consent? I am not going sober in a bar, so I would be a little/more drunk obviously.

I can see where you're coming from but one of the by rainn (who I don't even know is credible or not seeing as how they give false rape statistics anyway, the same website Riker used to back his arguments in a prior debate about consent) and even I don't know whether or not that is the legal definition of rape. Tbh I get both sides of the argument, but me personally, I'd never have *** with a drunk chick
 

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How am I supposed to know if the person is so ****ed up he can't even give his consent? I am not going sober in a bar, so I would be a little/more drunk obviously.

Gonna respond to your other post when I get on laptop. But, as for this, it's simple: Don't get consent from people who aren't sober. If it's these women's responsibility to not get that drunk, then it's just as much yours not to get so drunk that you can't tell if someone is sober or not. If you're sober and they aren't, just don't try to **** them
 
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