strongest person DRSM madara can beat?

[Dizzldot]

Rinnegan sasuke without the bijuu

 

[DemonicAvenger]

base RSM naruto, since I'm not sure if he can bust PS without a form of bijuu dama. LAVA RS won't work since JJ Madara wasn't bisected by it and PS should be more durable than JJ Madara body.

Hashirama.

Naruto can still beat him using dimension filling combo and all the elemental RS.

He beats anyone without Rikudo chakra for sure

 

[Ambivalence]

SM Hashirama.

Madara destroys base RSM Naruto, btw.

 

[KidGamer65]

The strongest he beats would be SM Hashirama or Base RSM Naruto. Hashirama will be harder due to SS, but Naruto doesn't stand a chance. His best moves can't destroy PS, and he can't survive a single swing. Then there's Chibaku Tensei rain and Shinra Tensei.

 

[TheSages456]

The strongest would be Rinnegan Sasuke or DMS Kakashi, whomever would be stronger between them.

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

This all depends on who you think is stronger than who.

Also this version of Madara would slaughter Juubi Jin Obito. If we give him all hypothetical feats he'd even smash 1 eye Juubi Jin Madara(Manga feats only).

The strongest he beats would be SM Hashirama or Base RSM Naruto. Hashirama will be harder due to SS, but Naruto doesn't stand a chance. His best moves can't destroy PS, and he can't survive a single swing. Then there's Chibaku Tensei rain and Shinra Tensei.

Hashirama is the one that wouldn't stand i chance as their is 0 reason for him to not have SS himself.

 

[The Messiah]

This all depends on who you think is stronger than who.

Also this version of Madara would slaughter Juubi Jin Obito. If we give him all hypothetical feats he'd even smash 1 eye Juubi Jin Madara(Manga feats only).

Hashirama is the one that wouldn't stand i chance as their is 0 reason for him to not have SS himself.

How is he beating a stronger version of himself.

Edit: misread it. I agree he beats him.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Hashirama and Momoshiki

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

How is he beating a stronger version of himself.

I said if we only give 1 eye JJ Madara manga feats only. Limbo is countered because it can be hit and seen via Rikudo chakra running through his eyes. Once he goes PS he rips right through his TSB's. Then SS and PS proceed to completely abolish him.

 

[The Messiah]

I said if we only give 1 eye JJ Madara manga feats only. Limbo is countered because it can be hit and seen via Rikudo chakra running through his eyes. Once he goes PS he rips right through his TSB's. Then SS and PS proceed to completely abolish him.

Oh my bad.

Yeah he definitely beat him if it's only feats he has shown.

 

[KidGamer65]

This all depends on who you think is stronger than who.

Also this version of Madara would slaughter Juubi Jin Obito. If we give him all hypothetical feats he'd even smash 1 eye Juubi Jin Madara(Manga feats only).

Hashirama is the one that wouldn't stand i chance as their is 0 reason for him to not have SS himself.

Unless you can prove he has the same amount of Senjutsu Chakra or rather Nature Energy as Hashirama there is no point trying to argue that he can use SS.

 

[Edogawa]

This all depends on who you think is stronger than who.

Also this version of Madara would slaughter Juubi Jin Obito. If we give him all hypothetical feats he'd even smash 1 eye Juubi Jin Madara(Manga feats only).

Hypothetical feats also mean Obito can go Biju Mode and Jin Madara using PS, in case you're ignorant of definition.

OT: Strongest would be Nagato, followed up with DMS Kakashi and Rinnegan Sasuke.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

The strongest he beats would be SM Hashirama or Base RSM Naruto. Hashirama will be harder due to SS, but Naruto doesn't stand a chance. His best moves can't destroy PS, and he can't survive a single swing. Then there's Chibaku Tensei rain and Shinra Tensei.

Super Tailed Beast RS bust PS or counter CT (not sure how many CT you think he can make. His chakra potency and reserves are ina different world as a JJ compared to here)

And if Madara doesn't immediately put up PS at the very start of the fight he factually gets blitzed/nuked

 

[Lord Tywin]

By author's statement, Sasuke always meant to surpass Madara. Granted this is the peak Madara, without the juubi. Rinnegan Sasuke will always be >>>>rinnegan madara without the juubi

 

[KidGamer65]

Super Tailed Beast RS bust PS or counter CT (not sure how many CT you think he can make. His chakra potency and reserves are ina different world as a JJ compared to here)

And if Madara doesn't immediately put up PS at the very start of the fight he factually gets blitzed/nuked

Super Bijuu RS wouldnt even destroy Madaras regular PS let alone PS after getting Rinnegans chakra and Hashiramas Sage Mode. The attacks power isnt on par with Narutos BD which yields an explosion far smaller than whats needed to destroy PS on Kurama. Shinra Tensei would blow then away regardless.

And he should be able to make around 6-9 smaller ones considering Nagato can make 1 giant one. Its mostly for a distraction regardless.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Super Bijuu RS wouldnt even destroy Madaras regular PS let alone PS after getting Rinnegans chakra and Hashiramas Sage Mode. The attacks power isnt on par with Narutos BD which yields an explosion far smaller than whats needed to destroy PS on Kurama. Shinra Tensei would blow then away regardless.

And he should be able to make around 6-9 smaller ones considering Nagato can make 1 giant one. Its mostly for a distraction regardless.

Even scaled down it should be enough to destroy his PS [

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Again though, nothing in this match matters other than the techs that were discussing. In character, Madara gets destroyed at the beginning of the match as PS/CT are the only things that are even remotely a threat.

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

Unless you can prove he has the same amount of Senjutsu Chakra or rather Nature Energy as Hashirama there is no point trying to argue that he can use SS.

He literally absorbed the Senjutsu right from Hashirama so im not seeing your point here. He can cannonly make the Buddha as Spiral Zetsu Mokuton plus Yamamoto's Mokuton was enough to make a Buddha.

Madara's Mokuton outclasses both of theirs.

Hypothetical feats also mean Obito can go Biju Mode and Jin Madara using PS, in case you're ignorant of definition.

OT: Strongest would be Nagato, followed up with DMS Kakashi and Rinnegan Sasuke.

Who gave them hypothetical feats?

 

[KidGamer65]

Even scaled down it should be enough to destroy his PS [

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Again though, nothing in this match matters other than the techs that were discussing. In character, Madara gets destroyed at the beginning of the match as PS/CT are the only things that are even remotely a threat.

First of all, nothing in the bold matters. It doesn't change anything I'm saying nor did I claim otherwise. Especially the stamina thing considering this match will never ever come down to attrition. Second of all, no, Super Bijuu RS isn't strong enough to destroy PS. Half of what occurred at VoTE is still larger or as large at least as the explosion of those RS, and the fact remains that Bijuu Dama's explosion is far more potent than FRS's explosion, so a BD explosion of the same size>>>FRS explosion of the same size in power. Then there's the fact that SS's attack has more power and it's more focused by far, so an explosion of the same power wouldn't even do as much damage to PS as SS did let alone a weaker attack, and SS only took off half of PS (still enough to render it useless) when it was armored onto Kurama.

-Shinra Tensei repels Bijuu RS. Don't say they can't either. Weight and force are the ways to counter ST, and there's no evidence Naruto's RS have enough force to break through behind them when they are ordinary sized RS.
-PS tanks it.
-Naruto can't tank or dodge PS's attacks.

And lmao in character and all that mindset stuff is a weak argument. If Madara is faced against an opponent he knows he needs his full power for or he will die there will be no messing around. So unless the distance is close enough to allow this version of Naruto to blitz Madara w/ no mental reaction despite Sasuke and Naruto being able to track and tag Obito there is no arguing that Madara dies before he can do anything.

Naruto needs higher powered Ninjutsu to kill Madara in one shot anyway due to regeneration, so a blitz+ a punch or a Rasengan isn't going to do anything. He'd take it, use Susanoo and then one shot Naruto.

 

[KidGamer65]

He literally absorbed the Senjutsu right from Hashirama so im not seeing your point here. He can cannonly make the Buddha as Spiral Zetsu Mokuton plus Yamamoto's Mokuton was enough to make a Buddha.

Madara's Mokuton outclasses both of theirs.

Who gave them hypothetical feats?

If you would read the Manga before posting you'd know he took the residual Senjutsu chakra of a Hashirama low on chakra and not even in Sage Mode. :lol

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

If you would read the Manga before posting you'd know he took the residual Senjutsu chakra of a Hashirama low on chakra and not even in Sage Mode. :lol

Irrelevant when Madara still had Hashirama Sage mode present and for you to claim it was a small amount is completely baseless.