What would have happened if Itachi decided to side with the Uchiha during Coup d'etat

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

Mastery or to the same extant. Might have worded differently but I'm talking about the same thing. Itachi then and the itachi in the manga with the MS are not the same power wise. Comparing the 2 is stupid. So no him siding with the uchiha my give then an edge in this coup but it'll have the same outcome just this time with no uchiha survivors.

Fail again I already listed his 2 uses of amaterasu and his 3 uses of tsukoyami to counter this argument... Mastery isn't needed, sasuke less adept at genjutsu than itachi as soon as he got ms used it on killer bee and placed killer bee in a genjutsu albeit short period of time but still did so it was only short because bee had his bijuu to set him free but Danzo or hiruzen don't have that luxury so that proves the ms genjutsu doesn't need mastery, and amaterasu was used easily as well with no training shape manipulation is different but just plain amaterasu doesn't need training just like all other dojutsu powers don't need to be trained to be used... Sasuke used outer path vs naruto without using ever before and did so on the level of the sage, or him using ninjutsu through his susano without ever using it once before or itachi using izanagi without ever using it before need I go on with all the ocular jutus of the uchiha not needing to be mastered to be used 2 or 3 times???

 

[Exaar]

The end result would of been the same, Itachi kneeling before hiruzen, Begging.

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[Esdez]

The end result would of been the same, Itachi kneeling before hiruzen, Begging.

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Itachi fingers foderuzen neg dif

 

[Exaar]

Itachi fingers foderuzen neg dif

Itachi only fingers him when he asks him too.

Itachi is a good little tool like that and knows his place.

 

[Mori Jin]

Nope thats speculation, its a manga fact no uchiha is stupid all or most seem to possess above average analytical skills and fugaku a candidate for hokage isn't stupid enough to start a coup without thinking all the details through... It's common sense if their is any in fighting it makes it easier for others to infiltrate and takeover that's goes for wars sports gangs politics

Arrogant uchiha is what they're known for. Hot tempered is what they're are. "No plan of operations extends with any certainty beyond the first contact with the main hostile force." I'm talking about the other villages not konoha they don't care who's in charge they'd find this as an opportunity and attack.

 

[Mori Jin]

Fail again I already listed his 2 uses of amaterasu and his 3 uses of tsukoyami to counter this argument... Mastery isn't needed, sasuke less adept at genjutsu than itachi as soon as he got ms used it on killer bee and placed killer bee in a genjutsu albeit short period of time but still did so it was only short because bee had his bijuu to set him free but Danzo or hiruzen don't have that luxury so that proves the ms genjutsu doesn't need mastery, and amaterasu was used easily as well with no training shape manipulation is different but just plain amaterasu doesn't need training just like all other dojutsu powers don't need to be trained to be used... Sasuke used outer path vs naruto without using ever before and did so on the level of the sage, or him using ninjutsu through his susano without ever using it once before or itachi using izanagi without ever using it before need I go on with all the ocular jutus of the uchiha not needing to be mastered to be used 2 or 3 times???

List them all like you like both itachi's are different. 1 mastered his eyes and the other just got it, again comparing the 2 is stupid.

 

[Dantе]

The end result would of been the same, Itachi kneeling before hiruzen, Begging.

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Ever care to read the manga?

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The manga is there obito took care of the military side of the clan. While Itachi went after the civilians and family.

But Itachi >> Pedobito.

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[Mori Jin]

Ever care to read the manga?

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But Itachi >> Pedobito.

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Wasn't even talking about whose stronger between them. Plus obito taking care of the police force and not itachi says otherwise.

 

[Dantе]

Wasn't even talking about whose stronger between them. Plus obito taking care of the police force and not itachi says otherwise.

You said Itachi couldn't annihilate Uchiha clan without Obito's support. But my argument was that because he was stronger than Obito, he could indeed do it.​

 

[Mori Jin]

You said Itachi couldn't annihilate Uchiha clan without Obito's support. But my argument was that because he was stronger than Obito, he could indeed do it.​

But he couldn't that's why he went to obito for support. Did you even read the manga?

 

[123fire]

Itachi's father can summon the kyuubi , so yeah they would solo konoha

 

[Mori Jin]

Itachi's father can summon the kyuubi , so yeah they would solo konoha

Filler and no he can't. Madara failed to do that when it was sealed in Naruto. What makes you think a fodder like him could do?

 

[Esdez]

Itachi's father can summon the kyuubi , so yeah they would solo konoha

they don't need a kyuubi to win

 

[Dantе]

But he couldn't that's why he went to obito for support. Did you even read the manga?

Where does it say that he couldn't do it without the help of Obito?​

 

[Mori Jin]

Where does it say that he couldn't do it without the help of Obito?​

Going to obito for help proves he couldn't do it himself. Why ask for help if you can do it yourself?

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Almost all of the uchihas had 1T sharingan except Itachi.Only few of them had 3T sharingan at best. If they tried to attack konoha then they would have annihilated by Orochimaru, Jiraiya, Tsunade, Hiruzen, Danzo, Gai, Kakashi, Asuma, Choza, Sarutobi Clan, Hyuuga Clan, Aburame Clan and Naka Clan. There would be a very minimal amount of causalities in the case of the civil war.

There was no way they would win the war. Even if they had Itachi with them,It wouldn't create much difference. Itachi's stamina is shitty and he couldn't stand against an entire country.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

[FONT=&quot]You said Itachi couldn't annihilate Uchiha clan without Obito's support. But my argument was that because he was stronger than Obito, he could indeed do it.[/FONT]​

In which world are you living in,my son?

Itachi had no stand against Obito. Obito could neg diff Itachi anytime anywhere.

Where does it say that he couldn't do it without the help of Obito?​

I think you should watch the entire show again. Your mind is too small to argue over this manga.

 

[-immortal-]

Would've been fatal for konoha and anyone thats not on itachis side

 

[YellowFang]

Even after couple years after that incident, Itachi was totally done after using Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu single time against Sasuke/Jiraiya...

Should be more trouble during coup event but even with one usage per jutsu, no he wasn't posing much threat.
P.S.
3rd's Neutralizer GG all..

 

[shelke]

This is a never-ending debate. Kota would have been more than enough for the Hokage and Danzo. Mind you, its usage in Danzo's hand was pitiful at best. In the hands of a pure-blooded Uchiha (Itachi) it completely overwrote ET's command. In the hands of Danzo, a mere interruption broke it, when it doesn't even work for regular 3 Tomoe Genjutsus. Furthermore, had it been the case (the command being easily broken), then Itachi wouldn't have saved it for Sasuke. It seems like a ridiculous plan, given that Sasuke has powerful chakra and eyes. He should break it himself, just like he broke Tsykuyomi despite possessing an inferior set of eyes.

Then we have the issue of Uchiha massacre. Then the civil war's start seems like a "boogie man is coming" yarn, as Konoha was attacked by Sound and Sand and no one came to take advantage of it. Pein rent it asunder and no one came, when Konoha's relationship with Hidden Rock and Mist villages hardly seemed decent. Yet, no one availed the change. It appeared more along the lines of an excuse to slaughter the clan as Danzo needed the eyes, and the Elder Council appears to fully support him. He was in contact with Obito as well as their meeting shows. So, it kind of comes full circle that he and the Elders are unrealiable narrators in this regard.

I highly doubt Uchiha would have been defeated so easily by all the other Clans when Ocular Genjutsu alone poses a serious problem and requires two people to fight a single Uchiha. It cannot be broken with Genjutsu Kai to begin with. And Uchihas seemed to have plenty of Sharingan users from the stashes Obito had. An MS user with the Uchiha, would have, at the very least, prevented the massacre if nothing else.