Was Sasuke vs Deidara really an asspull?

[Mellow]

After rewatching the fight, Sasuke had bested Deidara from the beginning with his sharingan visual prowess and lightning specialty, making him superior to an Akatsuki member at the age of 15...

As we all know, the sharingan can see chakra in colors and minute movement of all sorts lets say 3 times faster than they actually happen. Meaning if the explosion lasted 2 seconds, Sasuke would be able to see it all go down in 6 seconds. Thats a Vine video right there my dudes. Thats more than enough time to summon Manda and glance at him (all this happens in 5 seconds sasuke time) and by the last second right before they reverse summon, the shockwave hits them which caused them to still take damage.

#legitness

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Sasuke beat Deidara with oros power in 45 Minutes High diff, Itachi negged him with the blink of an eye.

Itachi > All

Ty and goodnight.

 

[Mellow]

Sasuke beat Deidara in 45 Minutes High diff, Itachi negged him with the blink of an eye.

Itachi > All

Ty and goodnight.

'tis true. He couldnt even beat his little brother. Just sad

 

[Byakuren]

Not in the least. That fight was the pinnacle of ninja vs ninja, the showcasing of a real battle. The best fight within the entire Naruto manga. Sasuke vs Deidara was one of the best choreographed battles I've witnessed yet in this manga.

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[ItachiDaSoloKing]

'tis true. He couldnt even beat his little brother. Just sad

Yup... sad

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[Cfighter]

Yes it was an asspull. The Sharingan aside, Sasuke was completely out of chakra. There was absolutely no way he could have summoned Manda and place him under a genjutsu in Sasuke's condition.

As for the Sharingan, the only hard facts we have on how far Sasuke can predict attacks is Naruto vs Sasuke in part 1. Sasuke was able to see Naruto's attacks with just enough time to react to them and that was only because of how much Naruto was projecting his attacks. Keep in mind that when Naruto was cloaked in the Kyuubi chakra Sasuke could not see Kurama's attacks - thus (essentially) an Atomic Bomb going off 5 feet away would absolutely be faster than Sasuke's Sharingan.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Not in the least. That fight was the pinnacle of ninja vs ninja, the showcasing of a real battle. The best fight within the entire Naruto manga. Sasuke vs Deidara was one of the best choreographed battles I've witnessed yet in this manga.

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I agree. Easily one of the best fights in the series.

 

[Jokule67]

Sasuke beat Deidara with oros power in 45 Minutes High diff, Itachi negged him with the blink of an eye.

Itachi > All

Ty and goodnight.

Itachi SOLOES!!!

 

[Melanin]

Yup....

 

[Jokule67]

Yes it was an asspull. The Sharingan aside, Sasuke was completely out of chakra. There was absolutely no way he could have summoned Manda and place him under a genjutsu in Sasuke's condition.

As for the Sharingan, the only hard facts we have on how far Sasuke can predict attacks is Naruto vs Sasuke in part 1. Sasuke was able to see Naruto's attacks with just enough time to react to them and that was only because of how much Naruto was projecting his attacks. Keep in mind that when Naruto was cloaked in the Kyuubi chakra Sasuke could not see Kurama's attacks - thus (essentially) an Atomic Bomb going off 5 feet away would absolutely be faster than Sasuke's Sharingan.

Damn that is a good explanation lol. If he was out of chakra how could he do all that?

 

[Mellow]

Yes it was an asspull. The Sharingan aside, Sasuke was completely out of chakra. There was absolutely no way he could have summoned Manda and place him under a genjutsu in Sasuke's condition.

As for the Sharingan, the only hard facts we have on how far Sasuke can predict attacks is Naruto vs Sasuke in part 1. Sasuke was able to see Naruto's attacks with just enough time to react to them and that was only because of how much Naruto was projecting his attacks. Keep in mind that when Naruto was cloaked in the Kyuubi chakra Sasuke could not see Kurama's attacks - thus (essentially) an Atomic Bomb going off 5 feet away would absolutely be faster than Sasuke's Sharingan.

Wasn't deodara supposedly "out of chakra" too.i'm pretty sure sasuke would see if he had chakra or not, so that explosion was an asspull in itself. I doubt it was 5 feet away, if you look at the distance , tehy were a cool 5 yards away, when sasuke punched him, he sent deidara flyinnnng.

As for the sharingan, bro, it predicts every thing movement and chakra based, the attack was both. Plus, Activating sharingan doesnt cost a lot of chakra for an uchiha. Why would their own kkg chakra cost tax them heavily? Activation and summoning Are seemingly instantaneous as it is, so while everything is slowed down... it's impossible to deny that it was pure strategy. And remember, all it takes is a glance to hypnotize, especially an animal.

 

[Byakuren]

Yes it was an asspull. The Sharingan aside, Sasuke was completely out of chakra. There was absolutely no way he could have summoned Manda and place him under a genjutsu in Sasuke's condition.

As for the Sharingan, the only hard facts we have on how far Sasuke can predict attacks is Naruto vs Sasuke in part 1. Sasuke was able to see Naruto's attacks with just enough time to react to them and that was only because of how much Naruto was projecting his attacks. Keep in mind that when Naruto was cloaked in the Kyuubi chakra Sasuke could not see Kurama's attacks - thus (essentially) an Atomic Bomb going off 5 feet away would absolutely be faster than Sasuke's Sharingan.

Asinine. Are you not understanding that Sasuke possessed Orochimaru's own reserves as an entirely separate chakra pool? Are you also, not understanding that Sasuke used his own chakra reserves to defeat Deidara, all except (though I'm assuming) the summoning of Manda, to which I'm of the presumption that Sasuke forcefully used Orochimaru's chakra (which he's capable of as seen in the Itachi vs Sasuke fight). Spoiler You must be registered for see images You must be registered for see images Sasuke vs Deidara was in no way, shape, or form bullshit. It was like I stated previously the pinnacle of Naruto fights. Nothing even comes close. Nothing.

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[Esdez]

Deidara = a salty shinobi who got owned by two sharigan users

 

[Mellow]

Deidara = a salty shinobi who got owned by two sharigan users

'tis a fact

 

[Mori Jin]

Of course it was an asspull. Something Naruto needed kurama's chakra for to summon gamabunta (manda is the snake equivalent), sasuke can do it whilst he's practically out of chakra then put it under genjutsu which also needs chakra. Curse Mark wasn't active so he wasn't using chakra from orochimaru or anything so you cant use that argument.

 

[Sasuke tyeezy]

Of course it was an asspull. Something Naruto needed kurama's chakra for to summon gamabunta (manda is the snake equivalent), sasuke can do it whilst he's practically out of chakra then put it under genjutsu which also needs chakra. Curse Mark wasn't active so he wasn't using chakra from orochimaru or anything so you cant use that argument.

When was it stated that he needed CM active to draw chakra from oro?

 

[Yanks]

Asinine. Are you not understanding that Sasuke possessed Orochimaru's own reserves as an entirely separate chakra pool? Are you also, not understanding that Sasuke used his own chakra reserves to defeat Deidara, all except (though I'm assuming) the summoning of Manda, to which I'm of the presumption that Sasuke forcefully used Orochimaru's chakra (which he's capable of as seen in the Itachi vs Sasuke fight). Spoiler You must be registered for see images You must be registered for see images Sasuke vs Deidara was in no way, shape, or form bullshit. It was like I stated previously the pinnacle of Naruto fights. Nothing even comes close. Nothing.

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The fight itself is great, but are you saying that the ending wasn't total bs? C'mon man. Deidara was less than ten feet from him and as it was shown in the manga and anime, Sasuke was just standing there when Deidara exploded. In the amount of time that it took for the explosion to reach ten feet as it expanded (probably less than a couple seconds), there's no way that Sasuke would be able to summon Manda, use a genjutsu and then try to hop in his mouth to save himself.

 

[Jokule67]

When was it stated that he needed CM active to draw chakra from oro?

It happened vs Itachi. When he tries to force out depleted chakra the flames appear and Oro breaks free.

 

[Jokule67]

The fight itself is great, but are you saying that the ending wasn't total bs? C'mon man. Deidara was less than ten feet from him and as it was shown in the manga and anime, Sasuke was just standing there when Deidara exploded. In the amount of time that it took for the explosion to reach ten feet as it expanded (probably less than a couple seconds), there's no way that Sasuke would be able to summon Manda, use a genjutsu and then try to hop in his mouth to save himself.

Its called anime suspense. Not to be taken seriously I suppose.

 

[Yanks]

Its called anime suspense. Not to be taken seriously I suppose.

I like to call it plot armor lol