Manga Scans To Show Indirectly How Hinata Solo's The Cherry Blossom

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CQC involves speed and fast reflex action. Both of which she doesn't have. Simply possessing CQC ability means nothing when the opponent is much faster than her.

Yes..Striking speed which honestly I don't recall Sakura having.
 

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And? That doesn't take away from the question at hand.

So you don't understand how 64 palms works either.

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Second page bottom panel. How many consecutive strikes do you presume she made in what would have been seconds to make 64 strikes overall?

Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms (Hakke Rokujuuyon Shou)
Kekkei Genkai, Taijutsu, Offensive, Close-range
User: Hyuuga Neji
This is originally a taijutsu that is passed down only in the Hyuuga
Main House!! However, being a branch house member, Neji uses his own intuition and natural talents to master the secrets of this
Taijutsu!!
Using the Byakugan’s 360 degrees vision and mapping this vision
onto a Divination Hexagram Formation. Then the user will launch a series of high speed combo onto opponent that lies within this formation. The attacks are aimed at 64 of the opponent’s chakra points, thus closing these chakra points and stopping the chakra flow of the opponent. The victim will not even have the strength to stand up. Therefore this is a deadly taijutsu that is suitable to be pass down within the Hyuuga line.
 

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Part 1: Sakura speed < Part 1: Hinata speed
Shippuden: Sakura speed < Shippuden: Hinata speed
The Last: Sakura speed < The Last: Hinata speed
 

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So you don't understand how 64 palms works either.

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Second page bottom panel. How many consecutive strikes do you presume she made in what would have been seconds to make 64 strikes overall?

Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms (Hakke Rokujuuyon Shou)
Kekkei Genkai, Taijutsu, Offensive, Close-range
User: Hyuuga Neji
This is originally a taijutsu that is passed down only in the Hyuuga
Main House!! However, being a branch house member, Neji uses his own intuition and natural talents to master the secrets of this
Taijutsu!!
Using the Byakugan’s 360 degrees vision and mapping this vision
onto a Divination Hexagram Formation. Then the user will launch a series of high speed combo onto opponent that lies within this formation. The attacks are aimed at 64 of the opponent’s chakra points, thus closing these chakra points and stopping the chakra flow of the opponent. The victim will not even have the strength to stand up. Therefore this is a deadly taijutsu that is suitable to be pass down within the Hyuuga line.

Are you reading and processing the posts here at all? How does she tag her to start her silly little stumbling dance? She requires what for that? That's right, speed!
 

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Are you reading and processing the posts here at all? How does she tag her to start her silly little stumbling dance? She requires what for that? That's right, speed!

Silly little stumbling dance? Anyways by your logic, if A is faster than B, B can never touch A in cqc?
 

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Silly little stumbling dance? Anyways by your logic, if A is faster than B, B can never touch A in cqc?

Precisely. This isn't about elemental or other Ninjutsu advantage. For instance, take Samehada away and Bee absolutely destroys Kisame. As, not only the sword moved on its own to rip out Bee's Chakra, but it merges with Kisame as well. So, at CQC, the sword's speed compensated for Kisame's much slower reaction rate. And his Ninjutsu absorption ability made up for Bee's fire power.

On plain CQC level, speed is everything. Without anything to compensate for Hinata's complete lack of speed feats, she's blitzed and plummeted into the ground before she even blinks. She needs reaction rate to react and hit Sakura. It's common sense, if anything.
 

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Precisely. This isn't about elemental or other Ninjutsu advantage. For instance, take Samehada away and Bee absolutely destroys Kisame. As, not only the sword moved on its own to rip out Bee's Chakra, but it merges with Kisame as well. So, at CQC, the sword's speed compensated for Kisame's much slower reaction rate. And his Ninjutsu absorption ability made up for Bee's fire power.

On plain CQC level, speed is everything. Without anything to compensate for Hinata's complete lack of speed feats, she's blitzed and plummeted into the ground before she even blinks. She needs reaction rate to react and hit Sakura. It's common sense, if anything.

Elemental or Ninjutsu? I was talking about cqc though. CQC which Lee and Neji are experts of but Neji continually floored Lee according to the manga despite Lee being faster.
And that last part? You've gone from needing speed to hit Sakura to needing reaction rate?
 

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Elemental or Ninjutsu? I was talking about cqc though. CQC which Lee and Neji are experts of but Neji continually floored Lee according to the manga despite Lee being faster.
And that last part? You've gone from needing speed to hit Sakura to needing reaction rate?

As I stated, nothing is compensating for her laughably poor speed. Just because she knows the tech doesn't mean anything. It's like pitting Part I Sasuke (Vote I) against Hebi Sasuke, only giving the former a black Chidori and the latter nothing but a sword. What do you think would happen? The latter cuts up the former into tiny pieces before he even has a chance to swing that little Chidori arm in Sasuke's direction.

Similar logic applies here, just because Hinata has a tech, doesn't mean she can land it on Sakura who has shown far, and I mean far, superior speed compared to her.

As for your Neji example, then Neji is fast. Hinata is a slow snail by comparison. He took out countless K0 Naruto's clones like nobody's business and Blitzed the Sound four guy from well over two hundred feet away in less than a heartbeat, albeit he was gravely injured. What are you talking about?

Using Neji's example and projecting it on Hinata isn't helping your case. It looks silly if anything.
 
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As I stated, nothing is compensating for her laughably poor speed. Just because she knows the tech doesn't mean anything. It's like pitting Part I Sasuke (Vote I) against Hebi Sasuke, only giving the former a black Chidori and the latter nothing but a sword. What do you think would happen? The latter cuts up the former into tiny pieces before he even has a chance to swing that little Chidori arm in Sasuke's direction.

Similar logic applies here, just because Hinata has a tech, doesn't mean she can land it on Sakura who has shown far, and I mean far, superior speed compared to her.

As for your Neji example than Neji is fast. Hinata is a snail by comparison. He took out K0 Naruto's clones like nobody's business and Blitzed the Sound four guy from well over a hundred feet away in less than a heartbeat, albeit he was injured. What are you talking about?

Using Neji's example and projecting it on Hinata isn't helping your case. It looks silly if anything.

Im not sure why you're bringing up Chidori (Ninjutsu) and sword (kenjutsu) to use as comparisons in cqc?
And I'm only trying to bring comparisons to how it doesn't matter if you're slower than your opponent or not to beat them in cqc. Sakura would also be slower than Lee would she not?
 

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Im not sure why you're bringing up Chidori (Ninjutsu) and sword (kenjutsu) to use as comparisons in cqc?
And I'm only trying to bring comparisons to how it doesn't matter if you're slower than your opponent or not to beat them in cqc. Sakura would also be slower than Lee would she not?

I am talking about Speed and its importance in CQC. Chidori cannot be used without CQC as it isn't a projectile. Kenjutsu is a CQC fighting style.

And I just proved to you that Chidori is infinitely better than a plain sword, yet, without the speed it doesn't matter at all. 64 points' blocking is no different. It's far superior than just a plain old punch, but without the speed, it's useless in CQC.
 

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CQC involves speed and fast reflex action. Both of which she doesn't have. Simply possessing CQC ability means nothing when the opponent is much faster than her.

The BYAKUGAN gives you the ability to sense movement so when it comes to reflexes Hinata win and with enhance reflexis comm speed
 

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Are you reading and processing the posts here at all? How does she tag her to start her silly little stumbling dance? She requires what for that? That's right, speed!

In a few facts you cannot deny unless you are officially the troll of the century which I know you are

Hinata can absorb chakra thanks to Twin Lion hands

Hinata can fly thanks to sage Chaka

With sage Chaka you get a boost in speed stamina power and endurance what is your counter to this other than your word
 
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