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[VS] The Queens VS. The King (Doflamingo)
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All of it. Doflamingo has 0 difficulty fighting g2 Timeskip Luffy. Ivan showed no speedfeats superior to that at all. Kuma body tanked a regular def wink neg diff. So how can Universal death wink be as strong as luffy strongest attack when it has 0 feats backing that up what so ever. Boa Hancock gets diced to bits if she engages Doflamingo in cqc. He can also use his awakening to make multiple clones and turn the battle from a 2v1 to 5 Mingo clones vs Boa and 5 Mingo clones vs Ivankov.
This is a complete mismatch.
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We only saw the bird cage on an island scale size and slow dramatic closing to buy plot time, there's no reason to assume doffy couldn't easily create a smaller faster version. Even if boa could turn the strings to stone, she wouldn't be able to simultaneously stop all of her immediate surroundings turning to string and attacking her. I completely agree boa and Iva are amazingly strong individuals, and could be on that level, but until they show feats comparable to Doffy in the dresrosa arc, and not just hype and speculation, I have to believe doffy would win with med to high diff.
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1st Bold: Ivans Galaxy Wink alone required superior speed than what G2 has shown. Ivan literally moved so fast he
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of himself. And not just one after image but multiple. Those are greater than FTE feats. Luffy has never demonstrated any feats similar to that.Ganmen Spectrum (GANMEN・残像 (ガ・ン・メ・ン・スペクトラム) Ganmen Supekutoramu?, literally meaning "Huge Head Afterimage"): By moving his head around at high speeds, Ivankov makes it look like he's multiplied his head. In the anime, the rate at how he moves his head around was enough to even confuse a Pacifista's visual sensors.
2nd Bold: I didnt say Universal Wink was as strong as
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, That would be a ludicris statement. I said that it packed as much power as luffy' weaker variant
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. There is a huge difference between the 2 techniques. But if you go back throught the manga you can easily see that GW had the same effect on Kuma that Kong Gun (not KKG) had on Doffy.Underlined: Your overexagerrating when you claim Boa would get sliced to bits fighting Doffy in CQC because Luffy pre G4 was still able to land blows on Doffy (though they were not effective). Luffy got a few scapes but was able to fight doffy without recieving any fatal limb damage, the manga has shown Boa is just as experienced in CQC when she needs to be, so suggesting doffy would slice her up also is a complete underestimation of her skills, and a downplay of her own staus as a shichibuki. Also, It would only take one contact from Boa for Doffy to lose a limb, you are severly underestimating Boa Hancock. Though I can understand, why given she doesnt have nearly as much combat screen time as Doffy had.
3rd Bold: Luffy already provided evidence that Doffy's clones are shit comparied to the original. He beat the clone with a jet gatling.. If it was that easy for luffy, Boa and Ivan should be able to eliminate the clones no problem. Once agin this is showing how much your are underestimating a fellow shichibuki and a commander of the Rev army.. To even suggest that clones would be able to defeat them SMH.
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Wow really? People really think doffy is winning this low diff? We don't have enough feats from boa but she's had haki a lot longer than Luffy she's definitely at least as good as Luffy using it. We don't have any speed feats so we don't know how she will fare. Iva is no pushover either.
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Doflamingo also had Haki a lot longer than Luffy, and the two were even Haki-wise. So that means nothing.
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No the reason i'm saying it makes no sense is because same Luffy was equal haki-wise to old retired Chinjao in the coloseum battle too when conqueror haki at the very least evolves with the level of strength, so does it mean Doflamingo ~ Luffy ~ Old retired Chinjao?
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He only lost because thor elephant > drillless kirikugi. If he had his drill, he most likely would have won that clash, so it doesn't tell us anything. I was comparing them haki-wise and they were shown to be equals in conqueror
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He got ****ed up by Lao G later on that day. I highly doubt he was beating Luffy, even with Gear 2 and 3 being in the mid-tier of his arsenal.
He had ailments and the fight against Luffy made them come back, weakening him before his fight with Lao G. Of course Luffy would have beaten that Chinjao even faster than he did in the coloseum but that's not the point. I'm saying that in the particular final clash they had in the coloseum, if he had his drill(his attack power vastly increased with his drill and Luffy struggled a little to overcome his drillless attack), he may have won it, yet haki-wise they had equal clashes