Kakuzu v Gai Sensei

[Booker]

Location: Gaara v Kimimaro

Starting Distance: 50 meters

Fight until death or K.O.

Scenario 1: 6th Gate and above is restricted

Scenario 2: 6th Gate is allowed

Scenario 3: 7th Gate is allowed

 

[ToshiZO]

Kakuzu wins both. Survives asa kujaku via domu. Gai is too linear and too taijutsu oriented to beat Kakuzu. Kakuzu simply outlasts.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kakuzu wins. Asa Kujaku is his strongest move and it's not doing anything serious to Kakuzu when Domu is active. So Kakuzu kills him off once he can't maintain Gates anymore.

 

[Booker]

Kakuzu wins both. Survives asa kujaku via domu. Gai is too linear and too taijutsu oriented to beat Kakuzu. Kakuzu simply outlasts.

Kakuzu wins. Asa Kujaku is his strongest move and it's not doing anything serious to Kakuzu when Domu is active. So Kakuzu kills him off once he can't maintain Gates anymore.

I'll throw in the 7th Gate, since I honestly thought this would be closer.

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

Kakuzu wins scene 1-2 and he can possibly win scene 3.

Hirudora best feat can't even be actually proven.

 

[Zexion~]

Kakuzu wins one without Domu camp, wins two with Domu and probably loses three.

 

[KidGamer65]

I'll throw in the 7th Gate, since I honestly thought this would be closer.

Then Hirudora shits.

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

I'd argue that Domu could tank Hirudora. As the latter failed to eliminate Kisame. Then again it could also be argued that water pressure reduced the effects of Hirudora since it's nothing but brute force.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

What is the intel? Gai only definitely loses scenario one. With the 6th gate, he'll have enough speed and fire power (Morning Peacock) to knock out all the masks. Camping Domu accomplishes nothing once the masks are done, nor does suffice as a defense either, as his body will be ignited. High internal temperatures lead to organs failing. 7G stomps.

 

[Zexion~]

What is the intel? Gai only definitely loses scenario one. With the 6th gate, he'll have enough speed and fire power (Morning Peacock) to knock out all the masks. Camping Domu accomplishes nothing once the masks are done, nor does suffice as a defense either, as his body will be ignited. High internal temperatures lead to organs failing. 7G stomps.

lol @ such a reaching argument that you've already conceded on.

Kakuzu doesn't need to release his masks here.

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

What is the intel? Gai only definitely loses scenario one. With the 6th gate, he'll have enough speed and fire power (Morning Peacock) to knock out all the masks. Camping Domu accomplishes nothing once the masks are done, nor does suffice as a defense either, as his body will be ignited. High internal temperatures lead to organs failing. 7G stomps.

Kakuzu could fuse with his mask like he did when he fought Naruto[SUP]

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[/SUP]. Domu should be able to be spread amongst him and his mask which would result in him being able to fully grasp his elemental abilities while being protected via domu. 6gate Gai speed is overrated as Kakuzu should be able to keep up with him.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

lol @ such a reaching argument that you've already conceded on.

Kakuzu doesn't need to release his masks here.

You were the one who conceded, actually. And you will again, because it's not reaching.

Kakuzu could fuse with his mask like he did when he fought Naruto[SUP]

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[/SUP]. Domu should be able to be spread amongst him and his mask which would result in him being able to fully grasp his elemental abilities while being protected via domu. 6gate Gai speed is overrated as Kakuzu should be able to keep up with him.

Domu works by hardening Kakuzu's skin. So wherever there is skin, is what Domu will effect. Everything else, or whatever you're implying, isn't going to work. 6G is far faster then anyone Kakuzu has canonically fought, so that list bit is baseless.

 

[ToshiZO]

Kakuzu most likely wins scenario 3 as well going off the damage it did to Kisame, as that was the only on panel feat of Hirudora's damage. It doesn't do much external damage as seen with a few scratches on Kisame, but in order to seriously damage Kakuzu it would have to breach Domu, based off the damage seen, Kakuzu will probably get rattled from the attacks sheer force but it doesn't have the penetrative properties to completely breach if it did it would rip right through Kisame's skin.

That's for domu allowing him to survive. Even if you don't think Domu tanks, Kakuzu has a chance here (especially depending on the intel), he can bury a heart underground (he can do that near instantly). When he falls via Hirudora and Gai deactivates the Gates and hits the side effects stage, Kakuzu gets his heart back and ends a weakened surprised Gai then.

 

[Zexion~]

You were the one who conceded, actually. And you will again, because it's not reaching.

Nah fam.

-Heat diffusing through the millions of threads inside Kakuzu's body and reaching all 5 hearts enough to burn them before Kakuzu can remove them with Fuuton is impossible :lol

-Flames showed absolutely zero damage to the Akatsuki cloak or even the fodders skin despite being there for a decent amount of time before they were extinguished, yet you think they are hot enough to cause that much damage to Kakuzu's heavily insulated 5 organs?

Gai uses it once, tires out and Kakuzu puts them out, he doesn't need Domu to tank anything else.

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

Domu works by hardening Kakuzu's skin. So wherever there is skin, is what Domu will effect. Everything else, or whatever you're implying, isn't going to work. 6G is far faster then anyone Kakuzu has canonically fought, so that list bit is baseless.

Yea is was always spectacle on weather or not Domu would work if he fuses with his mask would they get the Domu cover up.

Kakashi in cannon kept up with with [SUP]6gated Gai[/SUP] Kisame's clone already reacted to

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there is no reason to believe Kakuzu wouldn't be able to react or keep up with Gai when people who are in Kakuzu speed range have already done the same.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Nah fam.

-Heat diffusing through the millions of threads inside Kakuzu's body and reaching all 5 hearts enough to burn them before Kakuzu can remove them with Fuuton is impossible :lol

-Flames showed absolutely zero damage to the Akatsuki cloak or even the fodders skin despite being there for a decent amount of time before they were extinguished, yet you think they are hot enough to cause that much damage to Kakuzu's heavily insulated 5 organs?

Gai uses it once, tires out and Kakuzu puts them out, he doesn't need Domu to tank anything else.

Once again, you're not reading. I said after all the masks are taken out, even though I don't see how this wouldn't work even with all of them. If Kakuzu wants to just camp Domo, he is literally just sitting there while his body is in flames. Referencing the threads in his body is so beyond irrelevant, and does nothing to aid your argument. Domu hardens and seals him shut. The body cools itself down by sweating out the pores, which is impossible with Domu activated. His body temperature will steadily increase, while all the heat will be trapped and insulated inside his body, resulting in the natural failure of his organs (hearts). You don't have any manga or real life facts to disprove this. Also, those individuals flames are strong enough to take out Suiton techniques. As in natural flames evaporating chakra enhanced water. Using the Akatsuki cloak example doesn't discredit Morning Peacock, because Gai punches hundreds of times per second. So the cloak was engulfed in flames for max a few seconds before falling into Kisame's water source.

And you do this every time whenever you're arguing against Gai. How many times does it take for you to comprehend that Gai is a stamina beast? 5/5 in stamina the DB. He used Morning Peacock on a huge scale, immediately followed by Hirudora, and showed zero sign of exhaustion. Literally

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whatsoever. In fact, Hirudora doesn't even require a whole lot of energy, seeing as it can be performed when Gai was already beyond slumped in the war arc. Then we have to factor the 2nd Gate, which refuels the user with energy as well. Gai can easily accomplish multiple Morning Peacocks before starting to exhaust himself and feeling the repercussions of gates.

Yea is was always spectacle on weather or not Domu would work if he fuses with his mask would they get the Domu cover up.

Kakashi in cannon kept up with with [SUP]6gated Gai[/SUP] Kisame's clone already reacted to

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there is no reason to believe Kakuzu wouldn't be able to react or keep up with Gai when people who are in Kakuzu speed range have already done the same.

Nope, it's only his skin. Nothing else.

Kakashi didn't keep up with 6G's speed, that is a misconception. Look at the

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. The V2 Jins were already within a close proximity before Kakashi and Gai made there move. They had to make a step or two max before clashing with the Jins. The next page over, Kakashi was seen making his frontal attack, while Gai altered his position and attacked aerial from the side, meaning he made much more movements then Kakashi did. 30% Kisame didn't react, he was blitzed with no physical reaction [

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]. He made the stance, and allowed Kisame to strike first.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Gai will most likely get outlasted in sc2, which is the only debatable scenario. He will smash the masks one by one, but will have to fight a Domu'd Kakuzu. Kakuzu becomes a punching bag, but survives thanks to domu and will eventually outlast Gai.
SC1 is mid diff for Kakuzu for having a hard time to kill Gai
SC2 is Kakuzu outlasting Gai
SC3 Gai curbstomps hard enough to break the curb

 

[Mystical Palm]

Wait, how does Kakuzu extinguish himself after being ignited? He burns to death in the first two scenarios and gets flattened by Hirudora in the third.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

I'd argue that Domu could tank Hirudora. As the latter failed to eliminate Kisame. Then again it could also be argued that water pressure reduced the effects of Hirudora since it's nothing but brute force.

Kisame was protected by the water and Guy said he was aiming to capture not kill. I remember Suigetsu tanking KB's TBB head on and surviving while he was in that water avatar. Since Hiroudora is a punch, it's plausible that guy can exert his own amt. of strength into it.

Plus Hiroudora must have destroyed Madara's V3. All the clues point to it. The mokuton around KB loosened immediately after which implies Madara took a hit, Madara was absent for some pages, plus Madara stated he'll capture the kyuubi and 8 tails so it makes no sense why'd he decide to chill, do nothing and deactivate his susanoo when hiroudora hit him. It wasn't explicitically shown or stated but you get the point.

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OP:
Guy loses s1 and s2, wins s3.

 

[Edogawa]

Kisame was protected by the water and Guy said he was aiming to capture not kill. I remember Suigetsu tanking KB's TBB head on and surviving while he was in that water avatar. Since Hiroudora is a punch, it's plausible that guy can exert his own amt. of strength into it.

This is just false. Firstly, air cannons as Madara described are more powerful in water than in air. Secondly, Gai aimed to get the scroll and not capture Gai.

Plus Hiroudora must have destroyed Madara's V3. All the clues point to it. The mokuton around KB loosened immediately after which implies Madara took a hit, Madara was absent for some pages, plus Madara stated he'll capture the kyuubi and 8 tails so it makes no sense why'd he decide to chill, do nothing and deactivate his susanoo when hiroudora hit him. It wasn't explicitically shown or stated but you get the point

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All it did was push him away to a distance he could no longer have control over his Mokuton. That's it. Not a single panel shows Susanoo being destroyed. Hirudora failed to kill Kisame because it's not as strong as you fallaciously think it is.

OT: Kakuzu is more durable than Kisame, who tanked Hirudora so he watches Gai exhaust himself in all scenario and then chops him to pieces.