You commented 2 days after I originally posted that $hit, I'm just glad you didn't say he blocked it with his hand there's zero electricity coming from his hand unlike his right shoulder for some reason. :lol
Naruto reacted mentally I can tell you that. I can't say for certain whether he did physically turn around which looks to be that way in the manga. I will say that he didn't react and block like others say he did.
JJ Madara's cloak is made front the juubi, Naruto's is from 9 bijuu, practically the same and even then both got peirced by Kusnagi so it doesn't matter wether it's cutting or piercing.
You have no proof for either of these claims as you are giving RSM Naruto JJ Madara attributes which doesn't help your claim in the slightest. Before we bring the inconsistency of Gaiden, remember that Shin's father had the ability to teleport weapons as KM Naruto blocked 3 sword strikes raw whose Durability <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< RSM Naruto durability
1-You have no proof to differentiate Naruto's cloak from Madara's in terms of durability either, it's only logical to compare them as Naruto wasn't stated or implied to more durable nor was it shown any feats that puts it above Madara's in that regard, and logically it shouldn't be any better as Madara's has more bijuu chakra behind it.
2-That's not true as Shin doesn't have an ability like that, and we see the sword getting deeper inside Naruto in the next panel so it was clearly moving and wasn't warped to Naruto's abdominal (That's actually similar to Piedmon from Digimon who's special move "Trump sword" has him warping his 4 swords straight into his target :lol)
3-Another mistake is that you actually compared 3 fodder swords to Sasuke's kusanagi which peirced through JJ Madara who's durability>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KCM Naruto's :lol.
1-You have no proof to differentiate Naruto's cloak from Madara's in terms of durability either, it's only logical to compare them as Naruto wasn't stated or implied to more durable not was it shown any feats that puts it above Madara's in that regard, and logically it should be better as Madara's has more bijuu chakra behind it.
Why play games? You made the claim that he could pierce it due to him piercing Madara. That's a false equivalency fallacy. What I can tell you is that the cloak DID block a Ridoku powered Chidori and according to the DB, Chidori doesn't fail to pierce anything. Whether or not the cloaks are the same or not is irrelevant. I asked you to prove how it can slice through the cloak if Chidori failed to do it.
-That's not true as Shin doesn't have an ability like that, and we see the sword getting deeper inside Naruto in the next panel so it was clearly moving and wasn't warped to Naruto's abdominal (That's actually similar to Piedmon from Digimon who's special move "Trump sword" has him warping his 4 swords straight into his target :lol)
I mean that doesn't prove that it wasn't warped into Naruto. But I'll go ahead and retract my statement as I cannot prove that it was warped. Going off logical reasoning through, as I said before, we have two instances where his cloak
A) Blocked Physcial swords (KM)
B) Chakara piercing techinque (RM Chidori)
-Another mistake is that you actually compared 3 fodder swords to Sasuke's kusanagi which peirced through JJ Madara who's durability>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KCM Naruto's :lol.
There are no statements in the manga to indicates that Sasuke's Kusanagi was the same as Oro's and even then, Naruto's KM4 cloak tanked Oro's Kusanagi with no diff. As such, we cannot compare the feats. Unless you can find me scans or entries saying otherwise.
So you admit that it was an inconsistency based off Kishi's poor drawing? Cause I can prove to you that Naruto can tank attacks that are greater then what he got caught by
So you admit that it was an inconsistency based off Kishi's poor drawing? Cause I can prove to you that Naruto can tank attacks that are greater then what he got caught by
Why play games? You made the claim that he could pierce it due to him piercing Madara. That's a false equivalency fallacy. What I can tell you is that the cloak DID block a Ridoku powered Chidori and according to the DB, Chidori doesn't fail to pierce anything. Whether or not the cloaks are the same or not is irrelevant. I asked you to prove how it can slice through the cloak if Chidori failed to do it.
I mean that doesn't prove that it wasn't warped into Naruto. But I'll go ahead and retract my statement as I cannot prove that it was warped. Going off logical reasoning through, as I said before, we have two instances where his cloak
A) Blocked Physcial swords (KM)
B) Chakara piercing techinque (RM Chidori)
There are no statements in the manga to indicates that Sasuke's Kusanagi was the same as Oro's and even then, Naruto's KM4 cloak tanked Oro's Kusanagi with no diff. As such, we cannot compare the feats. Unless you can find me scans or entries saying otherwise.
And I'm asking you to provide something that states Naruto's cloak being superior to Madara's in durability when it hasn't shown any feats that implies it, If I'm saying that Sasuke's Preta path is better than Madara's then you'll be the one asking me for scans so get real here man. :sdo:
And about The kusanagi swords, we obviously have feats to compare them as JJ Madara who tanked most of 8 gates guy's assault and Tanked Naruto's rikudo Rasengan and Sasuke's black Chidori still got peirced by Sasuke's kusanagi and Chidori spear whereas KM4 Naruto who's way bellow JJ Madara in durability tanked Orochimaru's kusanagi.
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Feats differentiate things from each other obviously, Naruto's cloak doesn't have any feats over Madara's while Sasuke's sword has one's over Orochimaru's. :lol
Are you implying that Sasuke was trying to pierce Madara when it was made specifically clear in the manga that they were trying to seal him? Chidori also has the ability to paralyze it's foes.
Not getting your point when Chidori >>>>>>>>>>> Kusanagi as Sasuke's Kusanagi couldn't cut or pierce Bee's sword. Unless you're arguing that Bee's sword >>>>>>>> RSM Naruto's durability.
Why do you keep using false equivalency. That's like me saying since Sasuke and Itachi both awoke the mangekyo Sharigan, then Sasuke can use Tsukuyomi.
You didn't address those points. You said since Sasuke was stationary (which isn't true) and he wasn't running (which doesn't make a difference) that's why Chidori failed to pierce him. Then you made the claim that spear can do it because it was done to Madara which you have zero proof of it being able to cut the cloak.
Edit: You also made the claim that Sasuke's sword is superior because of it's name to fodder swords when you have no proof of these claims. You also can't even prove if the sword is the same sword he has in Gaiden.
And I'm asking you to provide something that states Naruto's cloak being superior to Madara's in durability when it hasn't shown any feats that implies it, If I'm saying that Sasuke's Preta path is better than Madara's then you'll be the one asking me for scans so get real here man. :sdo:
Who is making the claim that it was superior in durability? Please don't go putting words in my mouth because you don't have proof of your claims because the only thing I said is that Naruto's cloak tanked a Ridoku powered chidori and then proceeded to ask you to provide scans for your claim(s) which you have still failed to do. You're also essentially arguing that Sasuke's kusnagi >>>> Ridoku Power chidori which I'm gonna also need you to prove as well
And about The kusanagi swords, we obviously have feats to compare them as JJ Madara who tanked most of 8 gates guy's assault and Tanked Naruto's rikudo Rasengan and Sasuke's black Chidori still got peirced by Sasuke's kusanagi and Chidori spear whereas KM4 Naruto who's way bellow JJ Madara in durability tanked Orochimaru's kusanagi.
Feats differentiate things from each other obviously, Naruto's cloak doesn't have any feats over Madara's while Sasuke's sword has one's over Orochimaru's. :lol
Obviously, and this shouldn't have to be stated. Again, by hype and statements. Oro's Kusangai > Sasuke's. RM Chidori > Kusanagi based off feats and hype. You're also not making any sense either. Sasuke bisected Madara which is actually weaker then piercing seeing as with piercing, you are concentrating all of your energy in one point. If a concentrated buffed attack couldn't pierce Naruto, what makes you think an unconcentrated one can? Again, I need scans from you to prove your claims
Are you implying that Sasuke was trying to pierce Madara when it was made specifically clear in the manga that they were trying to seal him? Chidori also has the ability to paralyze it's foes.
I don't know what you are trying to say, what makes you think that Sasuke wasn't trying to paralyze Naruto when he attempted Chidori against him? Chidori also peirces the target and Sasuke is clear show thrusting his Chidori so have that. :elmo:
Not getting your point when Chidori >>>>>>>>>>> Kusanagi as Sasuke's Kusanagi couldn't cut or pierce Bee's sword. Unless you're arguing that Bee's sword >>>>>>>> RSM Naruto's durability.
You'll also have to factor the strength behind the weapon in question, Sasuke's sword didn't do anything to Ay when it pierced through JJ Madara who's many times more durable than Ay, Sasuke's grown since then in strength after he received Itachi's chakra and rikudo chakra afterwards hence he ripped through Madara with his spear, and He used Madara's speed (in which he is able to reach high up in the sky in a second when he dropped the mountain CT) against him and the sword went through him, if I were to cut a thick beam made of wood with an axe I might need alot of tries to do that, if I hand it to John cena he'll probably split 2 of them in one go. :lol
Why do you keep using false equivalency. That's like me saying since Sasuke and Itachi both awoke the mangekyo Sharigan, then Sasuke can use Tsukuyomi.
Because unlike Itachi's and Sasuke's MS, I've yet to find anything that differentiate Naruto's and Madara's cloaks in durability nor did you post any feats that suggest so.
You didn't address those points. You said since Sasuke was stationary (which isn't true) and he wasn't running (which doesn't make a difference) that's why Chidori failed to pierce him. Then you made the claim that spear can do it because it was done to Madara which you have zero proof of it being able to cut the cloak.
I will address them (again) and address what you said here.
1-About chidori, I already talked about this and it's obviously one of Chidori's traits to get stronger when the user runs before hand, that's how Sasuke's chidori pierced Ay's chakra armor and then went through his body when his Kusnagi didn't, it's all about moumentom, if I were to kick a locked door with my strength I might get pushed back instead, but if I run beforehand and kick it I would most probably open it, I'm too lazy to search and scan from part 1 so do me a favor and check the wiki or search for it.
2-The swords Naruto blocked do not compare to Kusnagi, there's nothing else address here.
3-Sasuke wasn't stationary when he attacked Naruto with Chidori you say? Get real man he wasn't running he just appeared behind him and slapped him with a chidori he just created, if he had dashed with his Chidori in his hand then teleported, he would've ripped through him like he did to Madara with spear and like Kakashi did to Kaguya.
4-running and getting moumentom makes a difference to any attack involving something physical wether it's punch or a sword slash homie, simple physics.
5-and you have yet to show anything that puts Naruto's cloak above Madara's so unless you do that I will ignore anything regarding this subject. By your logic I can say that Sasuke's precognition and Preta path are better than Madara's when Sasuke's haven't shown any feats of being any different or any feats to suggest so and ask you for scans to prove me wrong.:elmo:
Who is making the claim that it was superior in durability? Please don't go putting words in my mouth because you don't have proof of your claims because the only thing I said is that Naruto's cloak tanked a Ridoku powered chidori and then proceeded to ask you to provide scans for your claim(s) which you have still failed to do. You're also essentially arguing that Sasuke's kusnagi >>>> Ridoku Power chidori which I'm gonna also need you to prove as well
Is this guy for real? You're literally arguing about That if Sasuke's kusanagi and spear can peirce Madara doesn't mean it can pierce Naruto, you are implying that Naruto's has better durability than Madara without feats to support your claim as of yet.
I'll say it one last time, unless you show a feat that puts Naruto's durability above Madara's then he'll get the same results from Kusnagi and spear, and he already got peirced by Kusnagi to begin with which further makes this argument invalid.
Naruto is still made of flesh not the undestructable metal you make him out to be and he has zero feats that puts him above Madara, meaning he gets affected by the same attacks that affected Madara, meaning that spear and kusnagi do the same to Naruto, Period.
It cut the juubi tree, yet failed to so to Madara even after it exploded in his face, add to that Naruto's rikudo Rasengan which had shukaku's sealing technique was tanked as well along with Sasuke's black chidori.
Inb4 you say it was just to seal him, it was still slugged at him regardless, which doesn't change that he tanked both attacks, regardless if they have secondary effects of sealing and paralyzing.
Rikudo chidori failed to pierce Madara and Naruto whereas Kusanagi did, but still Kusnagi had more force behind it (Madara's rushing speed, and Shin's metal manipulation which was strong enough to make adult Sasuke lose his grip of the sword) Where's chidori had only Sasuke's stab punch behind so obviously chidori is better, just apply the same conditions to chidori in these scenarios and chidori would have done better, but spear is better than both as it's basically a better chidori as went through Madara's cloak when Normal chidori didn't and has better damage due it's shape, and I take back what I said about kusanagi piercing Naruto in that instance as Sasuke shouldn't have any more moumentom than he had with Chidori and chidori is stronger after I gave it much though, I will explain chidori spear further later on.
I know I'm making more sense than you that's for sure, especially when you ask me to show you how Kusnagi and spear pierce Naruto when they did to Madara who's Naruto doesn't have any durabili feats over.
Which is actually a good point for spear as it could cut Madara in half when a stab from chidori didn't do shit, which further proves spear's superiority over chidori. Sure spear was boosted by Sasuke's speed moumentom but still it was a cutting attack rather than a stab like you said which is weaker. :lol
If a concentrated buffed attack couldn't pierce Naruto, what makes you think an unconcentrated one can? Again, I need scans from you to prove your claims
Because there's isn't much moumentom behind Sasuke's regular chidori which makes it weaker, a trait that Chidori spear doesn't rely on as it's much sharper requires less force behind it due to it's shape:
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Sasuke would need to run very quickly beforehand and gain enough moumentom in order to run though something as thick as the Hachibi's tail and replicate what chidori spear did in less than second whilst he's on his knees and that's not counting the range and rate the chidori spear swings can be repeated in sucecion makes it a far better technique overalls.
it's like comparing a knife and axe made from the same metal, a swing from the axe would be far stronger and do far more damage than a stab from a knife. :lol
Formula for a typical fapboy argument
- Make a claim
- Avoid responding to initial claim asked for (proof for the claim made)
- Starts spouting nonsense that the other person never said
- Makes tangent argument off baseless assumptions
- 10 page debate
Will be my last post because I asked you 3 times now and I don't see scans indicating spear can pierce or cut Naruto
I don't know what you are trying to say, what makes you think that Sasuke wasn't trying to paralyze Naruto when he attempted Chidori against him? Chidori also peirces the target and Sasuke is clear show thrusting his Chidori so have that. :elmo:
Use your brain, when Sasuke hit Naruto with Chidori, what happened? He got knocked back. That didn't happen with Madara. He couldn't move which is why he switched places with the Limbo clone
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This was also indicated in the previous panel that the plan was to seal Madara as indicated by both the Shukaku and Sasuke
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So please stop with the BS argument. If you're gonna make the claim that Madara's cloak has the ability to negate the force effect of Chidori, then it should have done the same for LFRS but it didn't because it has no such ability.
when it pierced through JJ Madara who's many times more durable than Ay, Sasuke's grown since then in strength after he received Itachi's chakra and rikudo chakra afterwards hence he ripped through Madara with his spear
and He used Madara's speed (in which he is able to reach high up in the sky in a second when he dropped the mountain CT) against him and the sword went through him, if I were to cut a thick beam made of wood with an axe I might need alot of tries to do that, if I hand it to John cena he'll probably split 2 of them in one go. :lol
Because unlike Itachi's and Sasuke's MS, I've yet to find anything that differentiate Naruto's and Madara's cloaks in durability nor did you post any feats that suggest so.
Except I never made that claim and it's something that you pulled out of your arse. I simply asked you to prove with scans that it can tank a spear which going on the 3rd post, you still haven't done. By your logic, Madara and Sasuke's PS must be the same since they have the sage's chakara
I will address them (again) and address what you said here.
1-About chidori, I already talked about this and it's obviously one of Chidori's traits to get stronger when the user runs before hand, that's how Sasuke's chidori pierced Ay's chakra armor and then went through his body when his Kusnagi didn't
lol: Wut?
No, it pierced Ay because Chidori >> A sword in piercing as stated in the manga and the DB not because he was running. There are no feats in the manga that suggest using Chidori make it stronger by running as it's never failed to pierce a target when it was meant to be used a piercing until Naruto tank it
it's all about moumentom, if I were to kick a locked door with my strength I might get pushed back instead, but if I run beforehand and kick it I would most probably open it, I'm too lazy to search and scan from part 1 so do me a favor and check the wiki or search for it.
And you have no proof establishing Kusanagi from a regular sword as once again, Oro's Kusanagi is not Sasuke's Kusanagi. There are no distinguishable feats from my knowledge that made it stand out from a regular sword or even suggest that it was greater at cutting and piercing than Oro's
3-Sasuke wasn't stationary when he attacked Naruto with Chidori you say? Get real man he wasn't running he just appeared behind him and slapped him with a chidori he just created, if he had dashed with his Chidori in his hand then teleported, he would've ripped through him like he did to Madara with spear and like Kakashi did to Kaguya.
So because Sasuke wasn't running then he was stationary? What kind of logic is that? In order for him to had hit Naruto he had thrust in a forward motion meaning he wasn't stationary. It even shows him moving in both the pages he performed the action
4-running and getting moumentom makes a difference to any attack involving something physical wether it's punch or a sword slash homie, simple physics.
So prove that Chidori is less effective when you aren't running when Chidori has been stated, hyped and proven to be able to pierce anything bar Naruto's RSM cloak
5-and you have yet to show anything that puts Naruto's cloak above Madara's so unless you do that I will ignore anything regarding this subject. By your logic I can say that Sasuke's precognition and Preta path are better than Madara's when Sasuke's haven't shown any feats of being any different or any feats to suggest so and ask you for scans to prove me wrong.:elmo:
Ah the good ole Argumentum ad Ignorantiam fallacy. Funny how I never said Naruto's cloak was more durable than Madaras. Funny how you're doing everything in your power not to give me what I asked for. Funny how you're putting words in my mouth that I never said and it's funny that you're just spouting the usual fapboy narrative. I asked you to prove the that CS can pierce or bisect Naruto, you haven't done it yet. All you've done is go off on a tangent about Madara, someone I didn't bring up in my premise and your arguments are based off Madara's durability which is absurd
Is this guy for real? You're literally arguing about That if Sasuke's kusanagi and spear can peirce Madara doesn't mean it can pierce Naruto, you are implying that Naruto's has better durability than Madara without feats to support your claim as of yet.
I'll say it one last time, unless you show a feat that puts Naruto's durability above Madara's then he'll get the same results from Kusnagi and spear, and he already got peirced by Kusnagi to begin with which further makes this argument invalid.
Except I don't because I never made the claim so quit it with the strawmans.
Again with the fallacious claims.
A) We don't know how the sword got there not only don't we know Shin's abilities as they don't go into depth on how his MS works. There was no SFX or drawing indicating that the sword was in motion or even made it's way piercing Naruto. But like I said neither of us can prove this but I do love that you are arguing that
An unknown sword >>> Chidori in piercing power
B) We don't even know if that is a Kusanagi because Sasuke lost his original fighting Kaguya and there was no mention of what sword it was.
Naruto is still made of flesh not the undestructable metal you make him out to be and he has zero feats that puts him above Madara, meaning he gets affected by the same attacks that affected Madara, meaning that spear and kusnagi do the same to Naruto, Period.
Herp derp no really? :sdo:
Not arguing about Naruto's flesh, obviously his cloak tanked chidori or obviously he would have been dead. Not addressing the Madara comparisons anymore in this post because I never made that claim to begin with
It cut the juubi tree, yet failed to so to Madara even after it exploded in his face, add to that Naruto's rikudo Rasengan which had shukaku's sealing technique was tanked as well along with Sasuke's black chidori.
Inb4 you say it was just to seal him, it was still slugged at him regardless, which doesn't change that he tanked both attacks, regardless if they have secondary effects of sealing and paralyzing
- Sasuke thrust with Chidori, knocks Naruto back
- Sasuke thrust with Chidori, Madara doesn't go anywhere
- Sasuke stated previously that he had to seal Madara
- Guy still thinks that Chidori wasn't used for paralysis
It was stated in the DB, the thing you fapboys love using so much. There are no feats suggesting that Sasuke sword < Oro's. I can easily argue that Sasuke manipulated his blade into Madara as Ameno allows for him to do such. Seeing as how inconsistent the manga is, Sasuke's sword failed against Ay. However, you're arguing that things such as physics play a factor which I do not deny. Sasuke didn't use any momentum for his sword and once again I'll state, it can be argued that Sasuke Ameno'ed his sword into Madara so I don't even see how that's helping your case
So you're arguing that a sword being moved into Naruto (through unknown methods) has a greater piercing power than a Ridoku power Sasuke (whose stats all raise because of the Sage's Chakara, this includes his physical ability) who thrusts at Naruto? Absurd logic. So I guess Sasuke's unknown sword >>>> Ridoku powered Chidori
Where's chidori had only Sasuke's stab punch behind so obviously chidori is better, just apply the same conditions to chidori in these scenarios and chidori would have done better, but spear is better than both as it's basically a better chidori as went through Madara's cloak when Normal chidori
didn't and has better damage due it's shape, and I take back what I said about kusanagi piercing Naruto in that instance as Sasuke shouldn't have any more moumentom than he had with Chidori and chidori is stronger after I gave it much though, I will explain chidori spear further later on.
I know I'm making more sense than you that's for sure, especially when you ask me to show you how Kusnagi and spear pierce Naruto when they did to Madara who's Naruto doesn't have any durabili feats over.
Herp derp since it pierced Madara then that automatically means
A) Naruto has the same durability as Madara
B) Chidori Spear (or if that even what it is) has the ability to cut Naruto since it cut Madara even though Chidori, a technique that forces all the energy into a single point, failed to do so.
You're making no sense cause I still don't see scans suggesting otherwise. If you're gonna argue that RCS > Ridoku Chidori, gonna need some proof of feats that actually showcase this. Not you feeling like these things happen just because Sasuke did it
Which is actually a good point for spear as it could cut Madara in half when a stab from chidori didn't do shit, which further proves spear's superiority over chidori.
Because there's isn't much moumentom behind Sasuke's regular chidori which makes it weaker, a trait that Chidori spear doesn't rely on as it's much sharper requires less force behind it due to it's shape:
Only thing Chidori spear has cut beside Madara was Bee's tails that can be anything considered respectable which really isn't becauses windmill shuriken (or whatever they are) did the same thing to a tentacle
Sasuke would need to run very quickly beforehand and gain enough moumentom in order to run though something as thick as the Hachibi's tail and replicate what chidori spear did in less than second whilst he's on his knees and that's not counting the range and rate the chidori spear swings can be repeated in sucecion makes it a far better technique overalls.
I already addressed everything and you're the only avoiding $hit and started throwing insults like a the butthurt fapper you are.
-Naruto doesn't have durability feats over Madara who couldn't tank Kusnagi and spear.
-Naruto already got peirced by Kusnagi which puts all your BS where it belongs.
-Naruto tanked a chidori without Sasuke dashing before hand like always.
Meaning of Madara couldn't tank spear, Naruto can't, I already explained this to you 3 times yet you have your head too far up Naruto's ass to understand this simple fact.
You didn't provide anything that supports your argument at all, only BS about shin warping the sword into Naruto's abdominal as excuse for your fav not being the undestructable wall you make him out to be and constantly avoiding the fact that Naruto doesn't have any durability feats that put him above Madara.
I already addressed everything and you're the only avoiding $hit and started throwing insults like a the butthurt fapper you are.
You didn't actually. Being condescending will warrant insults. Don't be condescending you won't be called names, simple
-Naruto doesn't have durability feats over Madara who couldn't tank Kusnagi and spear.
Never made this claim, some bs you pulled out of your a** because you can't prove your claims
-Naruto already got peirced by Kusnagi which puts all your BS where it belongs.
Ok so you're agreeing that Kusanagi (something never even stated in Gaiden)>>>>>>> Ridoku Power Chidori. Glad to know fapboys wank Sasuke this much :lol
-Naruto tanked a chidori without Sasuke dashing before hand like always.
Which doesn't take away from the fact that he tanked it. And if you actually read the arguments, you'd see me asking you to prove that but this is boring because you're a poor debater putting words in my mouth I never said because you can't back your claims. Oh well
Meaning of Madara couldn't tank spear, Naruto can't, I already explained this to you 3 times yet you have your head too far up Naruto's ass to understand this simple fact.
You're applying things that happen to one character and giving them to another. What kind of s**t logic is that?
You didn't provide anything that supports your argument at all, only BS about shin warping the sword into Naruto's abdominal as excuse for your fav not being the undestructable wall you make him out to be and constantly avoiding the fact that Naruto doesn't have any durability feats that put him above Madara.
Didn't make an argument, I asked you to back your claims and you preceded to say I made a claim because you're a desperate reaching fapboy
This guy is just too dumb to understand simple logic.
When you tell him spear pierced Madara who has the same rikudo cloak "it doesn't mean it can peirce Naruto"
Then you're saying Naruto's cloak is more durable? Do you have proof "Don't put words in my mouth, I never said that"
So Naruto gets affected by chidori spear as well right? "Just because it happened to Madara doesn't mean it's going happen to Naruto"
So that means Naruto's cloak is more durable? " I never said that, don't put words in my mouth"
Basically this whole debate in a nutshell.
"Learn how to debate" Learn how to read the manga first, then learn how to debate before you reply to me again, I already know your record of being a Sasuke hater/Naruto fapper so don't waste my time again
A) We don't know how the sword got there not only don't we know Shin's abilities as they don't go into depth on how his MS works. There was no SFX or drawing indicating that the sword was in motion or even made it's way piercing Naruto.
so stop trying to possibly invent abilities for shin to try and prove your point, thats reaching. no signs indicating the sword was in motion is irrelevant when manga has already told us what he did
so stop trying to possibly invent abilities for shin to try and prove your point, thats reaching. no signs indicating the sword was in motion is irrelevant when manga has already told us what he did
It perfectly relevant and you're still repeating nonsense I already withdrew so why are you still arguing? Just because we know some of the abilities of his MS doesn't mean we know them all. The manga showed us one of his abilities and all it said was he can freely control weapons. Unless you can show me where it says he can't make them appear into their targets then kindly stop responding. I already said that I couldn't prove what I said but I don't see any manga evidence suggesting that he didn't seeing as how there were no sfx indicating that the sword was moved.
so stop trying to possibly invent abilities for shin to try and prove your point, thats reaching. no signs indicating the sword was in motion is irrelevant when manga has already told us what he did
It perfectly relevant and you're still repeating nonsense I already withdrew so why are you still arguing? Just because we know some of the abilities of his MS doesn't mean we know them all. The manga showed us one of his abilities and all it said was he can freely control weapons. Unless you can show me where it says he can't make them appear into their targets then kindly stop responding. I already said that I couldn't prove what I said but I don't see any manga evidence suggesting that he didn't seeing as how there were no sfx indicating that the sword was moved.
Lmaoooo what da actual ****?? a master troll post? the ability shin used on sasukes sword is the same thing he did to the multiple weapons he threw at naruto initially and also the same thing he was about to use on knives to hit sasuke before sakura intervened and thats by manipulating them. there is no multiple abilities you troll. in the scan naruto blatantly says "even sasukes" indicating that the latters sword was indeed manipulated away and not warped so you dont even have any point.
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oh look whats that? knives moving towards sarada. now why didnt he just you know make them appear on saradas body since our pal seems too think he can do that :lol.
lmao true. sasukes hand moved backwards indicating movement of the sword from him and not teleported which if was the case his arm position would be normal since there is no movement involved in that.
Lmaoooo what da actual ****?? a master troll post? the ability shin used on sasukes sword is the same thing he did to the multiple weapons he threw at naruto initially and also the same thing he was about to use on knives to hit sasuke before sakura intervened and thats by manipulating them. there is no multiple abilities you troll. in the scan naruto blatantly says "even sasukes" indicating that the latters sword was indeed manipulated away and not warped so you dont even have any point.
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oh look whats that? knives moving towards sarada. now why didnt he just you know make them appear on saradas body since our pal seems too think he can do that :lol.
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Not really sure why all you clowns think the same way as I never said he couldn't do those things (controlling weapons when marked). Why must all you clowns explained the known facts already? This is no different from when Sasuke awoke the MS and everyone was speculating that they knew that he had Tskuyomi because of misinterpretation of the manga (and there were alot of people saying this). Or that no one knew the war arc Madara was able to summon meteors with the Deva only thinking he could create one with a core. This situation is no different. There is no way for to disprove my statement seeing as we
A) Have very vague info on how Naruto was implaed
B) Do not know all of the specifics of his MS
Freely controlling weapons is a given and not something I once denied but unless you can provide some proof of that being all his abilities. Then there is no need to discuss anything at this point.
Whenever I ask you fapboys for proof you guys do nothing but create strawmans. I very well said I can't prove my claim either and why I left it where I did but really had nothing to do with my point from jump. It was conveyed that the sword was impaling a target as drawn by kishi (
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) we see the dash lines around or near the sword indicating that he was being impaled.
Also like to add that Gaara and Minato also use telekinesis when they are performing jutsus because a fapboy said so
