Confirmed Sasuke was nerfed

[take it easy]

Naruto was nerfed ! He easily could kill Sasuke with Bijuu RS before he absorbed bijuus chakra !

 

[Guntah]

To nerf means to deny a character access to a power he already has. So the fact that Sasuke never had these powers to begin with says otherwise.

 

[thermal detonator]

Sasuke only took their chakra.
Naruto cooperated with one, who could gather nature energy.
Naruto his attack was also a lot stronger in design as Naruto can use the highest form of shape manipulation (rasengan) + add nature change to it and he used two of them.
Whereas Sasuke his attack didnt have the highest form of shape manipulation.

Its not weird how the attacks clashed.

I never argued Narutos rasenshuriken was inherently weaker I said if he had anywhere near the full power of the bijuu he would have overpowered him

Also Sasuke was going down so gravity nerfed him

Edit last part was a joke to an above poster,disregard

 

[Meowazziel]

I never argued Narutos rasenshuriken was inherently weaker I said if he had anywhere near the full power of the bijuu he would have overpowered him

Also Sasuke was going down so gravity nerfed him

and I said that if he had anything near that, that he wouldnt overpower naruto his attack. It isnt weird that the attacks clashes.
As Naruto compensated with the huge amount of nature energy that Kurama accumulated and it being a higher quality attack designwise (highest shapemanipulation+nature+2 attacks total combined) compared to Indra's arrow.

 

[take it easy]

Not necessarily but sasuke and naruto being intended to be equal has been known forever, why is it such a surprise that's how it ended up? He could of full blown wrote an ass whooping for sasuke or naruto but he's always intended them to be equal so there's really no surprise on how it turned out. He even made it so they both ended up in the same physical condition, equally. It would be different and I would agree with you if this equal sh t came out of nowhere for vote2 only but that's not the case

If this would be true why Kishi did this ?

Why he allowed Sasuke win first two battles ? ( VOTE 1 and in Oros hideout)

Why Sasuke and Naruto always were jealous of each other powers ?


Why he clearly showed that Naruto was superior @VOTE 2 ? (being defensive all the time and not having killing intents )

Their equality was forced as hell its what that Kishi shows us .

 

[Jokule67]

He never had "8.5 bijuu". He took a small portion of there chakra and literally only used 2 jutsu with it


If we assume he did indeed take "8.5 bijuu" and he was able to completely exhaust ALL of there power just just susanno and Indra arrows those attacks probably would have been a lot more world breaking.

Naruto only had half kurama,if even that.if Sasuke had all the bijuu,plus the other half of kyuubi all in that Indra arrow there's no logical way it would have been countered.

Sasuke took all he could manage. Whis to say it was a small portion. More evidence points to it being a large portion. Of course he didnt use it all though.

 

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[InfiniteMugen]

If this would be true why Kishi did this ?

Why he allowed Sasuke win first two battles ? ( VOTE 1 and in Oros hideout)

Why Sasuke and Naruto always were jealous of each other powers ?


Why he clearly showed that Naruto was superior @VOTE 2 ? (being defensive all the time and not having killing intents )

Their equality was forced as hell its what that Kishi shows us .

Not really, sasuke has always been a genius, and a op fighter for the most part, would you really expect them to be equal as kids? That would make no sense in the context of the story. One gains power through his own means, one gains power through coop, why would naruto have that power off the bat? It would of been cheap IMO. Once naruto learned FRS the parallels in their power climbing was obvious. Sm/ms, ems/bm, rinne/RSM etc. I didn't really see a problem with it

 

[Warlocks]

I said use genjutsu after Naruto forms rasengan never said anything about that.if Sasuke has enough chakra to use enton and chidori ofc he can use gen

no he cant cuz sasuke 1st make enton and chidori then 2nd naruto got chakra from kurama and kurama sleep and 3rd after making enton and chidori sasuke dont have any chakra to use gen

 

[thermal detonator]

Sasuke took all he could manage. Whis to say it was a small portion. More evidence points to it being a large portion. Of course he didnt use it all though.

The full chakra of the bijuu is enormous.never once did you hear obito or madara complain about chakra and if Sasuke took anywhere near all their chakra I seriously doubt he could condense in one attack.nothing even close to that has been done by anyone

Now it's also relative to how much chakra the beasts actually had left. obito and madara weren't concerned about using heavy attacks,but kaguya was much more cautious.she had all the bijuu power inside her but she had to shift dimensions to gain chakra from those in IT

so it's most likely the bijuu were low on chakra when Sasuke captured them.

Either way he certainly wasn't using anywhere near "8.5 bijuu"

 

[Ricardo]

This is common knowledge. It's a shounen after all. Main lead characters can't simply die even if the odds are greatly in favor of their opponent. It's just the way it is. It was common knowledge that Sasuke was going to lose. It was inevitable.

 

[HENI]

They're equal okay?

 

[Jokule67]

The full chakra of the bijuu is enormous.never once did you hear obito or madara complain about chakra and if Sasuke took anywhere near all their chakra I seriously doubt he could condense in one attack.nothing even close to that has been done by anyone

Now it's also relative to how much chakra the beasts actually had left. obito and madara weren't concerned about using heavy attacks,but kaguya was much more cautious.she had all the bijuu power inside her but she had to shift dimensions to gain chakra from those in IT

so it's most likely the bijuu were low on chakra when Sasuke captured them.

Either way he certainly wasn't using anywhere near "8.5 bijuu"

Nothing like that has been done by anyone UNTIL Sasuke.

The portion he took was anything but small. Also the bijuu were at full capacity.

And of course the amount wasnt near 8.5 bijuu. But the power of it definately was greater.

If all the bijuu formed a bijuu bomb they cant beat Indras Arrow.

 

[thermal detonator]

Nothing like that has been done by anyone UNTIL Sasuke.

The portion he took was anything but small. Also the bijuu were at full capacity.

And of course the amount wasnt near 8.5 bijuu. But the power of it definately was greater.

If all the bijuu formed a bijuu bomb they cant beat Indras Arrow.

That literally makes no sense.if Sasuke has bijuu 1-8 plus half kurama,how is Naruto going to counter it with the other half of kurama?

The bijuu were no where near full capacity.if you mean to tell me after all their use,they still had "full capacity" that's ridiculous and kaguyas actions contradict it

Kaguya ran to her Nexus world several times to gather more chakra.if the beasts were anything near full powered that would be unnecessary.

You could argue the kurama that was previously minatos would have more chakra than the other beasts since relatively speaking minatos used much less of it compared to his original kurama and the Power of the other beasts.however it's very clear that kurama was also low on power too so it doesn't make sense to think 1-8 wouldn't be

Last point I agree with you on.they can't defeat Indra arrow because they lack the ability to control that much chakra at once.

 

[Demonic.]

Of course he was nerfed. Sasuke would've won the final clash if he could absorb and cast jutsu simultaneously...but "new rinnegan."

They're equal okay?

No they arent. Naruto never beat Sasuke once.

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[Illuminater]

This thread is a troll thread.

The most simple answer is the fact that characters don't behave like robots. They won't do every little thing possible to win a fight. They are humans, they make mistakes and they aren't perfect. It's like watching a movie, it's easy to expect the actor to run away from the threat when you're not facing it yourself. In conclusion it's Sasuke's fault he wasn't thinking about it or just didn't have enough chakra.

Duh.

 

[thermal detonator]

This thread is a troll thread.

The most simple answer is the fact that characters don't behave like robots. They won't do every little thing possible to win a fight. They are humans, they make mistakes and they aren't perfect. It's like watching a movie, it's easy to expect the actor to run away from the threat when you're not facing it yourself. In conclusion it's Sasuke's fault he wasn't thinking about it or just didn't have enough chakra.

Duh.

He's on to us...

 

[Stormblast]

One minute Sasuke has no chakra, the next he has EMS up and casting Enton Chidori. Kishimoto rushed this so badly.

Regardless, Naruto was held back far more. He was playing defensive and still came out on top. It's a very poor depiction of equality when you can beat an amped up opponent without trying too hard.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Sasuke wasn't nerfed

He didn't have any chakra left.
All he had was what he took from naruto and channeled it into the raikiri with amaterasu in the middle.

In case you didn't know.
He didn't even have enough chakra to keep his sharigan on
The page just before this had kurama explaining his eye power was weakening and that is how naruto got that crazy uppercut on him.


wankboys.....wankboys everywhere.

 

[Оdin]

Of course he was nerfed. Sasuke would've won the final clash if he could absorb and cast jutsu simultaneously...but "new rinnegan."



No they arent. Naruto never beat Sasuke once.

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