You have to be stupid to not know the difference between blunt and sharp objects. Look at luffy as well, he is literally using haki as well.
It doesn't matter if Luffy is using Haki. If the attack has Haki imbued into it, then it bypasses the fact that a Rubberman can't feel pain from blunt attacks. His body will still distort from being rubber, but it'd hurt. This is literally shown when Garp holds Luffy's cheek while using Haki, and despite his cheek stretching like rubber, it caused pain.
Luffy literally did not have haki during the time Garp stretched his cheek. And you can't bypass somebodies stronger haki with a weaker one. When luffy clashed haki with chinjao his fist did not sustain damage like luffy's torso.
When he knocked him out of G2 in Asgard form. And Kuma said he was repelling luffy's fatigue and damage from the fight with Moria. Luffy having high tolerance for physical attacks doesn't mean he's immune to it. It all adds up because evidently Moria doesn't have a sword/sharp object in his fight against luffy and he still put him in a critical condition.
Luffy having Haki doesn't matter. If Haki touches his rubber body, it affects it like flesh, even though it remains being rubber.
Link it.
Using Gear 2 and 3 tires Luffy out. The fatigue comes from having them both active at the same time.
None of Moriah's blunt attacks damaged Luffy. Luffy was injured by the shadows' piercing attacks(shadows bit him).
Luffy himself is covered in haki. How can weaker haki negate stronger haki?
I know that's where the fatigue comes from but Moria said he also sustained damages from Moria directly
You're telling me bats was the damage that nearly killed him? And Kuma said ALL the damages accumulating. Meaning it was continuous even after one initial attack.
Never said weaker Haki negated stronger haki.
How did he "knock him out of Gear 2?" ***** what?
No. I'm telling you the only times Moriah damaged Luffy was when he didn't use blunt attacks, and left Luffy knocked out wasn't that damage, it was the fatigue of losing 100 shadows at once after housing them, and the damage that occurred to his body because he used Gear 2 and 3 at the same time.
Which brings back to my point in Bellamy punching luffy in the gut and luffy coughing out blood.
Look at the panels.
Gear 2 and 3 does not damage the body, that's a fatigue issue because even Gear 4 doesn't physically damage the body. The only non blunt attack Moria used was those tiny bats in the beginning of their fight the rest were straight punching and kicking. And again Kuma said ALL damages inflicted on him against Moria.
Oh, I know the Gear Second turned off. It's just that Moriah's attack didn't turn it off, that makes no sense and nothing like that ever happens to Luffy.
Yeah. Kuma repelled all the damage. None of that damage came from blunt attacks.
Buso haki is armor, so how is it that weaker spiritual armor is penetrating through stronger spiritual armor. None of what you are saying is making sense. This logic of yours only applies if Luffy isn't using haki himself otherwise their would be no point in covering himself in haki.
It was Moria's attack was responsible for turning it off after the last stomp. There is no other reason why it would go out if he's in the middle of a fight and turn it back on again seconds later after Moria finished stomping him. I'm right here, you can't argue this one.
strain is not physical damage from Moria. That goes under muscle fatigue once again.
They were blunt attacks from Moria that caused these damages to him as well. Luffy never denied that those attacks didn't effect him, he just said that he's made of rubber so he'll bounce back. Kuma also said damages from Moria so try again.
Luffy is coughing up blood from Bellamy's attack. Doesn't that show you that Luffy's Buso isn't that much stronger than Bellamy's?
Dude, Bellamy's punch is making him cough up blood. Bellamy's Buso is penetrating his ON THE PANEL. That's why being made of rubber meant nothing at the moment.
He did the same thing against Lucci. He was Gear Second, then it went off, and he fought him in base for a while and then went Gear Second again. The reason it turned off is because pre-skip Luffy couldn't keep Gear Second active for too long at any one time. He was already tired when he started fighting Moriah due to losing 100 shadows at once, so he didn't have the energy to sustain Gear Second for more than short bursts, which is why using it and Gear 3 at the same time took such a hard toll on his body.
I said that. I said that using Gear 2 and 3 at the same time falls under fatigue. Since you're retarded, I'll make it painfully clear.
No they were not.
Damage from Moriah refers only to the non-blunt attacks because they were only ones that did real damage.
:lol what? Luffy's buso haki is stronger than Chinjao and Doflamingo including Cracker and you're saying that his haki isn't much stronger than Bellamy's?
Bellamy's weak buso haki can penetrate luffy's now? Because i saw no penetration of luffy's buso haki.
Link that claim because the difference between Ennies luffy and thriller luffy had complete control over G2 during the moria fight. Even in the impel down till the marineford war he didn't turn off his gear 2 when in the middle of a fight. Only when the admiral or someone stronger knocked it out of him.
Fatigue and Damages are two different things. Since you're such a ****ing retard I'll make that loud and clear for you, you idiot.
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Clearly they were
No they don't. Moriahs attacks were all blunt attacks except for one.
Then how did Bellamy's punch cause Luffy to cough up blood?
Luffy didn't show completely control over either Gears until after the timeskip. Luffy's Gears shut off all the time in the middle of fights. He wasn't in Gear 2 for the entirety of Impel Down, the Lucci fight, or in Marineford.
I never said they were the same thing. The part of the post that you quoted literally says "Fatigue and damage are two different things."
Only an idiot would think those are specific numbers. I used those to illustrate my point: The stress that Moriah pushed out of Luffy's body consisted mostly of fatigue with a small fraction of damage from Moriah.
And you can link any pages of Moriah damaging Luffy with a blunt attack.
That's for you to answer that question because I said that luffy is still susceptible to blunt attacks. And luffy's buso haki is still miles above Bellamy's haki since it's stronger than Doffy and Cracker's haki.
Like I said. Prove it, because every fight luffy had in the impel down when he was beating up his opponents including thriller park, his G2 never shut off. He only got it knocked out of him like Moria did to him in thriller park or Kizaru in Marineford.
You used gear 2 and 3 as an excuse for luffy's physical damages. So unless you are incapable of reading, fatigue is out of question here.
A complete retard pulling out numbers out of nowhere is a idiotic way of illustrating a baseless point. Luffy did not deal with a small fraction of damage and mostly fatigued because he was fatigued in the fight against Cracker (G4 twice) yet he still remained conscious.
I did since the second page of this thread. I'm still waiting btw.
