[VS] Kuma vs Post Strawhats

[MickNerks]

So we all remember how Kuma wrecked the StrawHat pre time skip, which makes sense seeing how he was a revolutionary commander.

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So now my question is WHO wins this fight Post Time Skip (same location)?

Round 1: Kuma vs The PS StrawHats?

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Round 2: Kuma and Ivankov vs Post Time Skip Strawhats

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Round 3: Kuma, Sabo, and Ivankov vs PS Strawhats

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And b4 you post: Remember that Ivankov has been shown to be a tank in the series and faster than Kuma.

 

[KCN]

Kuma would get knocked out, badly.

 

[Like Naruto]

we dont know yet if kuma still has some feelings after the WG completely controlled him, cos back in the war of the best all kuma did was blash some beams, if he went all out he couldve do some massive destruction without people knowing it.

 

[MickNerks]

Kuma would get knocked out, badly.

I agree the first one would be alot, but what about round 2 and 3

 

[HashiraMadara]

ursus shock solos

 

[MickNerks]

ursus shock solos

9 vs 1 :They can counter that at this point

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Kuma would get knocked out, badly.

not true if he has a brain majority of the straw hats cannot react or fight back against kuma's paws and kuma can travel anywhere in the field within an instant...

franky while strong is huge so he wont be a problem to get rid of.. nami chopper and ussop fall for this as well

brook while fast doesnt beat teleportation


this leaves robin and the monster trio

while robin has amazing reaction speed she cannot by pass his paws

same with zoro and sanji while both have haki they havent shown fbh which wpuld most likley be needed to block his paw

luffy and sanji i feel can evade fast enough especially sanji if he stays in the air

zoro i feel even though he doesnt have enough foot speed his reaction speed is amazing so i feel he would be able to hold himself for at least a little while.. but ultimatly would get tagged


u guys also keep forgetting some of straw hats biggesgt moves they cant do because theres so many allies so they have to worry about each other... whereas kuma doesnt have to do that he just has to touch them
(so i mean luffy cant do gear 4th and if he does he has to be careful because his friends are with him)

i dont thinkj it be easy but i still feel like if kuma had brain he would be able to replicate same feat from last timeskip

or if he doesnt he loses high diff but some straw hats would be gone

as for round 2 3 they go to revelutionaries

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

9 vs 1 :They can counter that at this point

honestly how though? none of them besides main three and robin can react to something as fast as kuma and again kumas paws u cant really negate them

 

[MadaraReturns]

Kuma wouldn't win, Zoro countered his teleporting speed and Kuma always seems to be holding back, like when he fought Ivankov at Marineford (maybe because he remembered Iva).

Adding Ivankov would make a big difference, what make it a hard decision is that we're talking about Dragon's commanders, at first i wanted to say that they'd lose against G4 Luffy, Zoro who negged all his enemies after timeskip and the rest of the StrawHats, hard diff. But now that I think of it, Ivankov and Kuma are very underrated, Kuma didn't show his all and no one really injured him yet. Ivankov has some nasty tricks and again, it's not without a reason that they're Dragon's CONMANDERS. While tha StrawHats grew stronger Kuma and Ivankov probably also grew stronger and maybe for Kuma some gadgets got added or speed or extra durability. While Luffy lasts 10 minutes, Ivankov can boost their stamina and power.

Adding Sabo would be a big loss for Luffy's crew for sure, Ivankov can even give them an adrenaline boost

 

[ToshiZO]

Zoro solos.

 

[Bogard]

Luffy or Zoro solos in scenario1. Luffy and Zoro are enough for scenario2. Only the third scenario is debatable

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

i really do hate how underrated kuma is on this site its really annoying... no straw hat can solo kuma maybe luffy via gear 4th but thats unlikely due to the amount of effort used to defeat doffy on luffys and laws part..but then again any damage luffy does to kuma kuma can litterally take it out of his body and throw it right back at them....

as for the person who said zoro countered his teleportation pre timeskip

where? if he did why did he get transported to mihawk or are u saying he knew he would be transported to him and just went with it... kuma literally teleports it doesnt matter if its 9 against 1 if anything thats better for kuma due to being able to use these ppl as shields and a lot of powerful attacks cant be used or has to be used carefully so they do not harm thier comrades... whereas kuma litterally has aone shot with his paws


i rank kuma around the level of doffy cracker jack minks etc idk why ppl think hes weak all of a sudden he has never shown anything to make him seem weak

 

[ssjelf]

All 9 would be a bit much for him as he was during marineford. But remember that they are still prototyping new designs for the PX series so kuma could easily have been upgraded in the 2 years of time skip.

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

Kuma wouldn't win, Zoro countered his teleporting speed and Kuma always seems to be holding back, like when he fought Ivankov at Marineford (maybe because he remembered Iva).

Adding Ivankov would make a big difference, what make it a hard decision is that we're talking about Dragon's commanders, at first i wanted to say that they'd lose against G4 Luffy, Zoro who negged all his enemies after timeskip and the rest of the StrawHats, hard diff. But now that I think of it, Ivankov and Kuma are very underrated, Kuma didn't show his all and no one really injured him yet. Ivankov has some nasty tricks and again, it's not without a reason that they're Dragon's CONMANDERS. While tha StrawHats grew stronger Kuma and Ivankov probably also grew stronger and maybe for Kuma some gadgets got added or speed or extra durability. While Luffy lasts 10 minutes, Ivankov can boost their stamina and power.

Adding Sabo would be a big loss for Luffy's crew for sure, Ivankov can even give them an adrenaline boost

Zoro never countered his teleporting speed.

 

[Luther]

In my opinion zoro alone can defeat kuma right now, in all three scenarios i see straw hats winning although the third scenario with a little difficulty.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Zoro never countered his teleporting speed.

I know right counters teleportation pre timeskip but struggles to catch pica throughout entire arc :|

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

I know right counters teleportation pre timeskip but struggles to catch pica throughout entire arc :|

Zoro and Ace are the most wanked and overrated chars in this Manga.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Zoro and Ace are the most wanked and overrated chars in this Manga.

zoro i get but why ace hes rarely talked about

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

zoro i get but why ace hes rarely talked about

Ace is overrated did you see that thread? People still believe he can take current Luffy.
The fact that Ace was surprised at how BB hit him shows that Ace hadn't fought any top tiers in a long while. If Luffy goes G4 one punch should be enough to put down Ace. We already seen how minuscule his durability is.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Strawhats low-mid diff.