[VS] Current Zoro vs. Prime ace

[Punk Hazard]

I don't know why people are replying to Riker, ignore his bait.

They wanna see what a person capable of really debating looks like

 

[Bogard]

Could go either way, favouring Ace for now. It's unclear if even Luffy already surpassed Ace and he is potentially significantly stronger than Jinbei(he matched as a rookie) who at worst is Sanji level

 

[TRE MERCER]

Luffy def surpassed Ace that's not even up for debate.

 

[Olorin]

Luffy def surpassed Ace that's not even up for debate.

it is up for debate, we can't really compare pre TS powerlevels to postTS power lvls, the portrayal changed too much

 

[A v i]

I wanna say Zoro mid-high diff, but Ace was able to block an Admiral's attack, while he Zoro was promptly defeated by one. Ehh, it'll probably be Zoro.

You mean "pheasant beak"? Can't Zoro just cut that thing into pieces?

 

[Punk Hazard]

You mean "pheasant beak"? Can't Zoro just cut that thing into pieces?

I have no way of knowing this.

 

[A v i]

I have no way of knowing this.

Why? Aokiji's ice ain't harder than steel, is it?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Why? Aokiji's ice ain't harder than steel, is it?

Is the ice of one of the strongest characters in the series harder than steel? Yeah, I think it is.

 

[A v i]

Is the ice of one of the strongest characters in the series harder than steel? Yeah, I think it is.

Is that all you have to say that Zoro may not be able to cut Aokiji's ice? Didn't Zoro destroy ice spikes at PH?

 

[TRE MERCER]

it is up for debate, we can't really compare pre TS powerlevels to postTS power lvls, the portrayal changed too much

No it's not bro. Luffy clearly surpassed Ace.

 

[Olorin]

No it's not bro. Luffy clearly surpassed Ace.

okay

 

[Like Naruto]

ace didnt even developed hakk this is a unfair fight.

 

[HashiraMadara]

Fujitora...?

You call that defeat? Remind me how Mingo made Luffy look at the start of their battle "used a clone on him"

 

[HashiraMadara]

An attack that is comparatively weak to the rest of Fujitora's arsenal dealt enough force to render Zoro on his knees. That's a clear indicator of the difference in their power.

again:
Luffy got fodderised by a clone Mingo at the start of the fight... So a brief encounter like that inconclusive. AS I SAID: you are suffering from fanboy logic though because:

* Shanks stops Akainu's high power Luffy plus Jinbei killing attack with ease while looking at Sengoku... your take on it: It doesn't show difference in their powers ...

* Fuji creates a gravity vortex intense while Zoro escapes it and land on knee stance(which doesn't indicate if it's all exhuastion blame or simply a stylish landing with a simple out breath)... your take on it: "That's a clear indicator of the difference in their power."

 

[Olorin]

ace didnt even developed hakk this is a unfair fight.

XD ppl still believe that

 

[chopstickchakra]

Probably already been posted but i havent seen it so what do you guys think? And when i say prime ace, i mean when he was ready to kill teach's whole crew to avenge thatch. And i keep in mind Zoro still hasn't been pushed to go all out yet since the time skip so we dont know what he is capable of.

Location: sky island, upper garden.
Neither have any intel on eachother.

Since you said Prime Ace then the win goes to Zoro because Ace unfortunately was never shown using any haki. If you had said hypothetical best version of Ace I'd say Ace, given all his hype he should have had armament haki him not having it goes against the manga's own logic. But that's a topic for another time.

 

[chopstickchakra]

XD ppl still believe that

As illogical as it is, there's no evidence to support otherwise. It makes no sense to me why he wouldn't even have the basics of it but Oda decided not to show him with it.

 

[Olorin]

As illogical as it is, there's no evidence to support otherwise. It makes no sense to me why he wouldn't even have the basics of it but Oda decided not to show him with it.

yes just like pretty much every other character at MF

 

[Passerby]

XD ppl still believe that

XD ppl still in denial

 

[chopstickchakra]

yes just like pretty much every other character at MF

I'm with ya, I'd love nothing more than for people to acknowledge it only makes sense Ace had armament haki but people are gonna refuse because he never hit a Logia and he didn't stop damage that haki could have.