CE Prelims Gaara Vs Rooftop Fight KN0 Naruto w/o Red eyes.

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Location: CE prelims stage.

Restrictions: Full Shukaku Transformation , Summons , Sand Dome and Rasengan.

Distance: 10m

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This is basically VoTE KN0 Naruto in terms of power as there is no training time in between the rooftop fight and the final battle nor would the power Naruto draws out be inferior to his regular KN0 state, and he has the speed to outspeed Gaara's Sand, however it took 5G Ura Renge to penetrate Gaara's Armor of Sand and even then Gaara protected himself from the final impact using his gourd. Naruto's physical power doesn't even come close to the physical power generated by 5G's Lee's strength and speed so Gaara still beats him.
 

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This is basically VoTE KN0 Naruto in terms of power as there is no training time in between the rooftop fight and the final battle nor would the power Naruto draws out be inferior to his regular KN0 state, and he has the speed to outspeed Gaara's Sand, however it took 5G Ura Renge to penetrate Gaara's Armor of Sand and even then Gaara protected himself from the final impact using his gourd. Naruto's physical power doesn't even come close to the physical power generated by 5G's Lee's strength and speed so Gaara still beats him.

This always interested me , even tho it sounds funny wouldn't Naruto using a Kunai + strength speed be able to pierce through his skull? What if Naruto were to use a single KN0 Clone then replicate wat he did to Neji here with both using a Kunai to hit each side of his Cheek?
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-Also since Naruto doesn't have the drawbacks Gated Lee has doesn't that mean he'll be able to outlast a Gaara in Stamina/Chakra who'd be forced to maintain his Armor for longer periods than against Lee?
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This always interested me , even tho it sounds funny wouldn't Naruto using a Kunai + strength speed be able to pierce through his skull? What if Naruto were to use a single KN0 Clone then replicate wat he did to Neji here with both using a Kunai to hit each side of his Cheek?
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-Also since Naruto doesn't have the drawbacks Gated Lee has doesn't that mean he'll be able to outlast a Gaara in Stamina/Chakra who'd be forced to maintain his Armor for longer periods than against Lee?
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Nvm. Naruto would definitely win. But as for this strategy, I doubt Naruto is going to pierce through the armor of sand and kill Gaara with just a Kunai, and if he feels like that he'd be defeated by might be able to swap himself with a sand clone before Naruto strikes him since he was able to swap out during Lee's assault.

Though yeah, Naruto would outlast the armor of Sand. Naruto>Gaara in chakra already let alone Gaara who needs to continuously spend it to protect himself.

But I forgot that Naruto basically fought a Gaara much stronger than this and he pushed Shukaku to come out using 2K combo so there's no way that this Gaara would defeat this Naruto even if he couldn't use KN0. Add KN0 and Naruto would wreck. I also forgot about clones entirely for some strange reason. :lol
 

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Nvm. Naruto would definitely win. But as for this strategy, I doubt Naruto is going to pierce through the armor of sand and kill Gaara with just a Kunai, and if he feels like that he'd be defeated by might be able to swap himself with a sand clone before Naruto strikes him since he was able to swap out during Lee's assault.

LOL Based on the way Kishi set up that instance , it made it clear that Gaara wouldn't have been able to do this if Lee wasn't feeling pain from the Gates. Naruto wont be assaulting him like Lee did + Naruto is many times faster.

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Though yeah, Naruto would outlast the armor of Sand. Naruto>Gaara in chakra already let alone Gaara who needs to continuously spend it to protect himself.

But I forgot that Naruto basically fought a Gaara much stronger than this and he pushed Shukaku to come out using 2K combo so there's no way that this Gaara would defeat this Naruto even if he couldn't use KN0. Add KN0 and Naruto would wreck. I also forgot about clones entirely for some strange reason. :lol

Naruto did fight a stronger Gaara but the situations were much different , Gaara didn't have his Auto Defense which would've protected him from Base Naruto's clones.

-U probably forgot about it because neither CE KN0 Nor VOTE1 KN0 used Clones LOL.
 

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LOL Based on the way Kishi set up that instance , it made it clear that Gaara wouldn't have been able to do this if Lee wasn't feeling pain from the Gates. Naruto wont be assaulting him like Lee did + Naruto is many times faster.

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Naruto did fight a stronger Gaara but the situations were much different , Gaara didn't have his Auto Defense which would've protected him from Base Naruto's clones.

-U probably forgot about it because neither CE KN0 Nor VOTE1 KN0 used Clones LOL.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. :lol

His auto defense wouldn't protect him from a Kurama powered 2K Combo if Gaara covered in his initial Jinchuuriki from needed to release Shukaku in order to survive.
 

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Oh yeah, I forgot about that. :lol

His auto defense wouldn't protect him from a Kurama powered 2K Combo if Gaara covered in his initial Jinchuuriki from needed to release Shukaku in order to survive.

A Kurama powered 2K Combo wouldn't Breach Sand Dome tho..
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-But Naruto being the Ninja he is would've already sent a few clones or himself underground to catch Gaara Off-Guard with a Upercut , then Gaara would have to choose if he'd rather get pummeled inside his dome or dismantle the dome and get pummeled by the clones + Naruto himself meanwhile other clones can follow the tunnel and get to Gaara also.. Dame shoulda thought about this thread more lol.
 
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A Kurama powered 2K Combo wouldn't Breach Sand Dome tho..
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-But Naruto being the Ninja he is would've already sent a few clones or himself underground to catch Gaara Off-Guard with a Upercut , then Gaara would have to choose if he'd rather get pummeled inside his dome or dismantle the dome and get pummeled by the clones + Naruto himself meanwhile other clones can follow the tunnel and get to Gaara also.. Dame shoulda thought about this thread more lol.

Um lol. Thats 1 Sasuke, who is physically inferior to KN0 by a long shot let alone 1000 KN0 clones hitting Gaara's shield at the same time.

And i doubt the underground thing would work. Worst case scenario Gaara covers the bottom with sand too.

But yeah, either way Naruto destroys Gaara in this thread.
 

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Um lol. Thats 1 Sasuke, who is physically inferior to KN0 by a long shot let alone 1000 KN0 clones hitting Gaara's shield at the same time.

I was referring to Base clones actually , the clones that pummeled partial shukaku were all base.

And i doubt the underground thing would work. Worst case scenario Gaara covers the bottom with sand too.

But yeah, either way Naruto destroys Gaara in this thread.


Thats if Gaara suspects this move since i was referring to canon use but yea he could , my intention see's Naruto utilizing this after Launching at him with Clones but yea Gaara just simply cant hack it even without Rasengan lol.
 

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This always interested me , even tho it sounds funny wouldn't Naruto using a Kunai + strength speed be able to pierce through his skull? What if Naruto were to use a single KN0 Clone then replicate wat he did to Neji here with both using a Kunai to hit each side of his Cheek?
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-Also since Naruto doesn't have the drawbacks Gated Lee has doesn't that mean he'll be able to outlast a Gaara in Stamina/Chakra who'd be forced to maintain his Armor for longer periods than against Lee?
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I'm not entirely sure what version of Naruto this is..Apologies if I use the wrong feats.
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I doubt the kunai strategy would work. Kimi in CM2 does something similar with his bone but the armor was only cracked. Granted it's an advanced version of Gaara but I'm not sure there are any upgrades that can be made to the sand armor.

Also I think you're over rating the stamina he loses from sand armor. He was on the defensive almost throughout the Lee fight and yet he walked away without any hint of exhaustion. Heck it seems he was ready to go for another round when Lee stood up
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Kankuro's statement is also seemingly retconned a few chapters later when we see Gaara wearing the armor as he was looking to kill Lee there but was interrupted. This implies it isn't as draining as Kankuro made it seem seeing as Gaara was casually wearing it for no reason.


Also doesn't Naruto have a time and capacity limit on his borrowed Kurama chakra? He seemingly exhausts it when he summons bunta, exhausts it against Neji and Gaara in the CE finals and even runs out of time with it in VoTE. ( )-
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Notice difference in whiskers and canines. And since this is in character, I believe that means he doesn't ask for more of the same from Kurama?

Naruto's destructive feats also dont seem as impressive as Lee's who seemingly wrecks concrete? so im not sure Naruto has anything to put Gaara down?

I'm also not sure there's any way to compare his speed with 5G Lee's but I feel I should note that Gaara's auto sand was

Using clones to try and do a Naruto combo might not work because it's a multi directional attack removing the need for the sand to jump from place to place. It simply erects a wall around Gaara. Sure Naruto is fast but his combo utilizes . The friction would definitely reduce the speed a little and if his speed is similar to 5G Lee's, that reduction in speed is probably enough time for the sand shield to set up itself in Gaara's vicinity.
 

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I was referring to Base clones actually , the clones that pummeled partial shukaku were all base.




Thats if Gaara suspects this move since i was referring to canon use but yea he could , my intention see's Naruto utilizing this after Launching at him with Clones but yea Gaara just simply cant hack it even without Rasengan lol.

Even then. 1000 base clones hitting the shield at the same time>>>>>>>>>>>>>1 Sasuke hitting the
 

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Even then. 1000 base clones hitting the shield at the same time>>>>>>>>>>>>>1 Sasuke hitting the

0 times 100 is still zero Naruto cannot bust sand dome with his bares especially since it spikes out.

Gaara would mop Naruto. Him beating up Shukaku Gaara in the forest means nothing when Auto sand defense and Gaara sand attacks alone would snatch Naruto up.

Edit - CE Gaara loses thought we we're talking about SRA fight goes like this

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0 times 100 is still zero Naruto cannot bust sand dome with his bares especially since it spikes out.

Gaara would mop Naruto. Him beating up Shukaku Gaara in the forest means nothing when Auto sand defense and Gaara sand attacks alone would snatch Naruto up.

Edit - CE Gaara loses thought we we're talking about SRA fight goes like this

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Lmao. Makes zero sense considering all the energy is being applied at the same time. So it's not 100 x 0 or anything. By this logic, since one of SS's fists can't do anything to PS, all of them hitting at once wouldn't do a thing "cuz 0x1000=0", yet SS raped Ps.

And yes, we are obviously talking about CE Gaara. Who would argue that KN0 Naruto beats SRA Gaara? Come on now.
 

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Lmao. Makes zero sense considering all the energy is being applied at the same time. So it's not 100 x 0 or anything. By this logic, since one of SS's fists can't do anything to PS, all of them hitting at once wouldn't do a thing "cuz 0x1000=0", yet SS raped Ps.

And yes, we are obviously talking about CE Gaara. Who would argue that KN0 Naruto beats SRA Gaara? Come on now.

Not when the spikes come out before he could punch them clones go poof so he's still not getting past it and what's this so called physical strength naruto posses over Sasuke? Sasuke took multiple hits from KN0 Naruto and did not cough of blood or even express pain and any matter. Sand dome >>>>>>> Sasuke durabiliy. Naruto's not getting through it. SS didn't rape shit the Bijuu dama's did most of the damage to PS.
 

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Not when the spikes come out before he could punch them clones go poof so he's still not getting past it and what's this so called physical strength naruto posses over Sasuke? Sasuke took multiple hits from KN0 Naruto and did not cough of blood or even express pain and any matter. Sand dome >>>>>>> Sasuke durabiliy. Naruto's not getting through it. SS didn't rape shit the Bijuu dama's did most of the damage to PS.

The spikes came out yet Sasuke still had room to physically strike the dome. And lmao. Don't argue fact. Naruto equals Sasuke in strength without enhancements as per DB. Give Naruto Kurama's chakra and he's >> Sasuke in physical power. And 1000 KN0 clones>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1 Naruto in physical strength.

And as usual you sound stupid. They are equal in power. So at worst they did the same amount of damage to each other. However Chojo Kebutsu is equal in power and far more focused than Bijuu Dama as all the fists, thus all the energy, hits Madara's PS directly. So if anything SS did most of the damage to PS. :lol

Lmao what garbage logic. Go to sleep guy.
 

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This is basically VoTE KN0 Naruto in terms of power as there is no training time in between the rooftop fight and the final battle nor would the power Naruto draws out be inferior to his regular KN0 state, and he has the speed to outspeed Gaara's Sand, however it took 5G Ura Renge to penetrate Gaara's Armor of Sand and even then Gaara protected himself from the final impact using his gourd. Naruto's physical power doesn't even come close to the physical power generated by 5G's Lee's strength and speed so Gaara still beats him.

Naruto already used Kunai + explosive seal against Gaara himself and it ****ed up Gaara's shukaku v2, he could use that here too.
 

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I don't see how all the clones don't just get dispersed with Sand Tsunami....
 

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Naruto already used Kunai + explosive seal against Gaara himself and it ****ed up Gaara's shukaku v2, he could use that here too.

True, but not really necessary.
 

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I don't see how all the clones don't just get dispersed with Sand Tsunami....

Gaara only has the gourd sand on this location since in CE he can't make more out of the floor.
 
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