[VS] DMS JJ Obito with rinnegan Vs JJ DRSM Madara

[Kakashistomps]

Location-Kaguya Vs Team 7

Distance-100m

Intel-None

Intent-Kill/Seal/Beat

Conditions-This is Juubi Jin Obito has his Double Mangekyo Sharingans,his rinnegan is on his forehead,with it he can use all of Pain's feats,with bigger scale bc he is Jj and has tons of chakra, +he also has Gyuki Chakra which he stole from Madara and half Kurama which he got via BZ.... Basically everything he ever had combined...hopefully u understand haha
This is Juubi Jin Madara with Double Rinnegan,has rinne sharingan too on His forehead,has Mokuton and Sage Mode....

Restrictions-none, some may say IT Gg but it probably wont work on Obito cuzz he has both Bijjus and Rinnegan,but still for ppl who thinks that it is IT gg it is restricted.

Who wins?

 

[TRE MERCER]

Obito shits. IT can't bypass Rinnegan. Obito PS would abuse Madara. His orbs gets sniped and so does his PS if he decides to use it. Juubidama's obliterate his CT's.

 

[Booker]

So basically a fanfic battle.

 

[Booker]

Anyways JJ Madara knocks JJ Obito around. 4x Limbo makes Kamui nearly a non-factor. Madara's PS > Obito's PS (assuming he can even replicate it like Kakashi). Madara has greater prowess with Rinnegan techs.

Basically whereever it matters JJ Madara is superior.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Obito shits. IT can't bypass Rinnegan. Obito PS would abuse Madara. His orbs gets sniped and so does his PS if he decides to use it. Juubidama's obliterate his CT's.

can Limbo swap counter kamui snipe? or do you think he can counter Limos quickly. Shouldn't Madara PS be slightly ahead in DC due to SM.
OP: does the rinnegan forehead on Obito means he has the power of two rinnegan and can use all it's power bar an unique jutsu like Limbo or Ameno?

 

[Ambivalence]

Obito probably wins considering how amp'd his Kamui speed and strength would be by so much power-ups since merely Sakura's chakra allowed him to open Kaguya's dimensions, while Kakashi with a small portion of JJ Madara's chakra was throwing Kamui Shuriken which warped Kaguya's massive chakra arms. Everything Madara has is nullified by the same stuff Obito also possesses, plus Kamui. Madara does have more raw power, because of the additional Rinnegan plus Hashirama's SM boost but I don't see it making a difference. I don't even see how an accidental Limbo clone warp can be problematic since he can just warp 2 TSB into Kamui for a shield when he needs to be intangible, not that he'll slip up since he can see them with his Rinnegan.

Obito takes it.

 

[SasukeSixPack]

How can you have DMS and Rin'negan at the same time?

 

[makosheva7]

Kamui Susano'o plus Rinnegan techs? Obito mid diff.

 

[Warlocks]

JJ DRSM Madara wins

 

[KidGamer65]

-Madara's PS dumps on Obito's. Kamui Shuriken are countered by any projectile Madara has.

-Shin Jukai Kotan rapes Obito's PS as well as it's basically a world wide version of Hashirama's Jukai Kotan that can absorb chakra via the Shinju's roots.

-Outside of PS combat Kamui is easily countered. Madara can swap with Limbo and leave it in his place, meaning Kamui is essentially null and void since it can't drag Limbo to the other dimension or even hurt it. Then it returns to his body and he rinses and repeats. Or it's just flat out dodged with raw speed.

-Obito's Gudo Dama are useless since they can't block Madara's strongest techniques (CT, PS, etc) and offensively Madara can overpower them with his own techs or match them with his own Gudo Dama.

-Rinnegan techniques are useless as Madara can use every technique Nagato (thus by extension Obito) would be able to use but much stronger as the power of the Rinnegan multiplies when it's with the original user. Obito isn't the original user. Madara is. Then there's the fact that outside all of that, Madara>>Obito.

The only issue is intangibility, but Madara has more chakra than Obito does by far and he's immortal with the Shinju absorbed, so if it comes to outlasting Madara will obviously win. Obito has no legit way of taking him down. All he can do is slip through Madara's attacks until he's out of juice, which will take a hell of a long time but it'll eventually happen.

 

[Unorthodox]

Madara stomps

 

[TRE MERCER]

Anyways JJ Madara knocks JJ Obito around. 4x Limbo makes Kamui nearly a non-factor. Madara's PS > Obito's PS (assuming he can even replicate it like Kakashi). Madara has greater prowess with Rinnegan techs.

Basically whereever it matters JJ Madara is superior.

Limbo is completely useless here since it has 0 feats of swapping Madara cross dimension. Obito can hit and see and sense Limbo via JJ and Rinnegan so Limbo isn't going to be a factor at all. If Madara decides to go PS he gets sniped. Kakahsi with a Kurama chakra boost could snipe something the size of the Juubi Obito with JJ chakra does this with ease. Fire power means 0 when Obito has the haxxed advantage.

can Limbo swap counter kamui snipe? or do you think he can counter Limos quickly. Shouldn't Madara PS be slightly ahead in DC due to SM.
OP: does the rinnegan forehead on Obito means he has the power of two rinnegan and can use all it's power bar an unique jutsu like Limbo or Ameno?

Na unless limbo can swap cross dimension which it can't. Obito can see and sense Limbo's they aren't a problem for him. Madara would have the advantage in terms of Ps but it gets sniped so it doesn't matter.

-Madara's PS dumps on Obito's. Kamui Shuriken are countered by any projectile Madara has.

-Shin Jukai Kotan rapes Obito's PS as well as it's basically a world wide version of Hashirama's Jukai Kotan that can absorb chakra via the Shinju's roots.

-Outside of PS combat Kamui is easily countered. Madara can swap with Limbo and leave it in his place, meaning Kamui is essentially null and void since it can't drag Limbo to the other dimension or even hurt it. Then it returns to his body and he rinses and repeats. Or it's just flat out dodged with raw speed.

Madara ps gets sniped so it doesn't matter if it's stronger than Obito's or not. Let's assume he can use Shin Jukai kotan without using IT. Obito can fly and so would his Ps which means Jukai kotan is completely useless. Juubidama completely erase them anyways. Obito would never need to snipe Madara untill is body is in pieces and Limbo can't switch with Madara cross dimention unless feats of that is shown.

-Obito's Gudo Dama are useless since they can't block Madara's strongest techniques (CT, PS, etc) and offensively Madara can overpower them with his own techs or match them with his own Gudo Dama.

-Rinnegan techniques are useless as Madara can use every technique Nagato (thus by extension Obito) would be able to use but much stronger as the power of the Rinnegan multiplies when it's with the original user. Obito isn't the original user. Madara is. Then there's the fact that outside all of that, Madara>>Obito.

Obito would never need TSB when he can nuke CT or simply warp above the rocks when they fall toward the ground or slip right through them or dice them up with his PS. Ct is completely useless.

The only issue is intangibility, but Madara has more chakra than Obito does by far and he's immortal with the Shinju absorbed, so if it comes to outlasting Madara will obviously win. Obito has no legit way of taking him down. All he can do is slip through Madara's attacks until he's out of juice, which will take a hell of a long time but it'll eventually happen.

Trust me it won't come down to an outlasting battle. Obito uses Ps Madara tries to match Obito ps and him and his Ps gets warped. If he doesn't use ps Obito ps bodies Madara and his limbo's effortlessly.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

madara wins low-mid diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara ps gets sniped so it doesn't matter if it's stronger than Obito's or not. Let's assume he can use Shin Jukai kotan without using IT. Obito can fly and so would his Ps which means Jukai kotan is completely useless. Juubidama completely erase them anyways. Obito would never need to snipe Madara untill is body is in pieces and Limbo can't switch with Madara cross dimention unless feats of that is shown.

Lmao good ol Kamui wank. If he wants to warp something as large as Madara's Susanoo he'll have to gather chakra for it as shown in canon when Kakashi had to spend quite a while gathering chakra to try and warp the Juubi, which is as large as PS. In that interval Madara rapes him w/

-Susanoo.
-Bijuu Dama.
-Jukai Kotan.

And if you want to claim that having more chakra=less or no build up then prove it.

And Shin Jukai Kotan isn't Infinite Tsukuyomi nor is it a tech only usable via IT so I'm not sure what point you thought you were getting at here. And the branches are long enough to traverse the entire earth. L-O-L if you think flight matters here. Not sure how Obito is going to set up Bijuu Dama before his chakra Avatar gets raped.

@bold: Then Kamui never gets used on Madara personally because Obito doesn't have the means to incapacitate him.

Obito would never need TSB when he can nuke CT or simply warp above the rocks when they fall toward the ground or slip right through them or dice them up with his PS. Ct is completely useless.

An irrelevant counter. :lol

Trust me it won't come down to an outlasting battle. Obito uses Ps Madara tries to match Obito ps and him and his Ps gets warped. If he doesn't use ps Obito ps bodies Madara and his limbo's effortlessly.

Uh, no.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Limbo is completely useless here since it has 0 feats of swapping Madara cross dimension. Obito can hit and see and sense Limbo via JJ and Rinnegan so Limbo isn't going to be a factor at all. If Madara decides to go PS he gets sniped. Kakahsi with a Kurama chakra boost could snipe something the size of the Juubi Obito with JJ chakra does this with ease. Fire power means 0 when Obito has the haxxed advantage.

Na unless limbo can swap cross dimension which it can't. Obito can see and sense Limbo's they aren't a problem for him. Madara would have the advantage in terms of Ps but it gets sniped so it doesn't matter.

Madara ps gets sniped so it doesn't matter if it's stronger than Obito's or not. Let's assume he can use Shin Jukai kotan without using IT. Obito can fly and so would his Ps which means Jukai kotan is completely useless. Juubidama completely erase them anyways. Obito would never need to snipe Madara untill is body is in pieces and Limbo can't switch with Madara cross dimention unless feats of that is shown.


Obito would never need TSB when he can nuke CT or simply warp above the rocks when they fall toward the ground or slip right through them or dice them up with his PS. Ct is completely useless.


Trust me it won't come down to an outlasting battle. Obito uses Ps Madara tries to match Obito ps and him and his Ps gets warped. If he doesn't use ps Obito ps bodies Madara and his limbo's effortlessly.

I mean can it counter kamui mid warp? Not when Madara is already in Kamuiworld.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Lmao good ol Kamui wank. If he wants to warp something as large as Madara's Susanoo he'll have to gather chakra for it as shown in canon when Kakashi had to spend quite a while gathering chakra to try and warp the Juubi, which is as large as PS. In that interval Madara rapes him w/

-Susanoo.
-Bijuu Dama.
-Jukai Kotan.

And if you want to claim that having more chakra=less or no build up then prove it.

Obito gathering Chakra isn't going to give Madara the win when his intangibility completely slips through all of his attacks. Also No Juubi is much bigger than Ps since we seen Gyuki the size of it's finger[

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] Not to mention Kakashi was going to warp the Juubi with all of it's tails so double that size. Obito slips through Susanoo bijuudama is blocked via TSB Jokai kotan is useless when he can fly.

And Shin Jukai Kotan isn't Infinite Tsukuyomi nor is it a tech only usable via IT so I'm not sure what point you thought you were getting at here. And the branches are long enough to traverse the entire earth. L-O-L if you think flight matters here. Not sure how Obito is going to set up Bijuu Dama before his chakra Avatar gets raped.

I said if i didn't say he couldn't do it. It's not like the branches would ever reach Obito when he can completely eradicate them in his aoe with Kamui shurikens or Juubidama's. Obito doesn't need to set up Bijuudama's he spits the Juubi out and let it go ham.

@bold: Then Kamui never gets used on Madara personally because Obito doesn't have the means to incapacitate him.
An irrelevant counter. :lol
Uh, no.

Yes he does. Once his chakra storing is ready he goes Ps snipes Madara's ps while Madara is inside of it taking him out as well if he decides to take it down Ps recks him. It's simple. Hax beats DC and that all Madara has here since Limbo is completely useless.

I mean can it counter kamui mid warp? Not when Madara is already in Kamuiworld.

Med warp this is dms my friend it managed to get inside Kaguya portal which is a speed feat RSM Naruto couldn't even achieve while being literally about 10 feet away. What do you mean Madara is already in kamui land.

 

[KidGamer65]

Obito gathering Chakra isn't going to give Madara the win when his intangibility completely slips through all of his attacks. Also No Juubi is much bigger than Ps since we seen Gyuki the size of it's finger[

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] Not to mention Kakashi was going to warp the Juubi with all of it's tails so double that size. Obito slips through Susanoo bijuudama is blocked via TSB Jokai kotan is useless when he can fly.

Uh, no. Gyuki is the size of V2 Juubi's head as shown in the Manga. PS's hand and head are the same size as Bijuu. And Kakashi only said he'll make it vanish. Only the Juubi's body can be seen clearly from his POV so it's more likely that he was going to just warp it's body. The rest is irrelevant because that's not meant to defeat Obito.

And flying doesn't let him evade roots that spread across the entire planet. :lol

Not like it changes the fact he needs to build up chakra.

I said if i didn't say he couldn't do it. It's not like the branches would ever reach Obito when he can completely eradicate them in his aoe with Kamui shurikens or Juubidama's. Obito doesn't need to set up Bijuudama's he spits the Juubi out and let it go ham.

He has 4 Shuriken, and he won't get BD off before he gets caught, and even if he does Hashirama was going to use his Jukai Kotan to divert the trajectory away from the battlefield let alone a worldwide scale version of the jutsu that absorbs all forms of chakra. :lol

As for the fanfic in the bold. Scans or don't bother. Juubi's evolution are automatic, and when it has enough power it evolves. Thus Obito can release the Shinju and nothing else. The only way he has access to BD is via the tree, as if it matters anyway because the Shinju is the last form of the Juubi and it's roots absorb all forms of chakra. Juubi is no exception.

Yes he does. Once his chakra storing is ready he goes Ps snipes Madara's ps while Madara is inside of it taking him out as well if he decides to take it down Ps recks him. It's simple. Hax beats DC and that all Madara has here since Limbo is completely useless.

His chakra storing will never be ready before his PS is obliterated by Madara so the rest of this doesn't matter.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Uh, no. Gyuki is the size of V2 Juubi's head as shown in the Manga. PS's hand and head are the same size as Bijuu. And Kakashi only said he'll make it vanish. Only the Juubi's body can be seen clearly from his POV so it's more likely that he was going to just warp it's body. The rest is irrelevant because that's not meant to defeat Obito.

And flying doesn't let him evade roots that spread across the entire planet. :lol

Not like it changes the fact he needs to build up chakra.

Na Madara Ps i no were near that much bigger than the Bijuu but w/e Obito still snipes it. Doesn't matter how far the stretch they aren't fast enough to catch Obito plus he can slip through them so there completely useless and irrelevant. Madara can't take out Obito before the build up this is what this comes down to so stop with the non-sense.

He has 4 Shuriken, and he won't get BD off before he gets caught, and even if he does Hashirama was going to use his Jukai Kotan to divert the trajectory away from the battlefield let alone a worldwide scale version of the jutsu that absorbs all forms of chakra. :lol

As for the fanfic in the bold. Scans or don't bother. Juubi's evolution are automatic, and when it has enough power it evolves. Thus Obito can release the Shinju and nothing else. The only way he has access to BD is via the tree, as if it matters anyway because the Shinju is the last form of the Juubi and it's roots absorb all forms of chakra. Juubi is no exception.

He's never going to get caught. TSB explosion shits on roots Kamui shurikens does as well plus their weapons/extensions to a Susanoo and Susanoo have shown to have limitless amount of time they can use there weapons/extensions. Can Sasuke run out of Susanoo arrows? Nope can Itachi run out of Magatama's. You talk about Fanfic? I want to see Madara preform planetary Jukai kotan without I.T. Also when Obito spit the Juubi Madara ask with a question mark if he's going to use Infinite Tsukuyomi implying that he could do other things with Juubi. Unless you think Madara was just being ignorant and asking a question to something that he already knew was going to happen like when someone see you with Milk and bow and a spoon and ask you are you going to make Cereal.(Not the best example i know)

His chakra storing will never be ready before his PS is obliterated by Madara so the rest of this doesn't matter.

Obito never puts up his ps until his Chakra storing his ready he just simply slip through Madara's techs.

 

[Oblivionx]

obito is haxxed. I'd side with him.

 

[KidGamer65]

Na Madara Ps i no were near that much bigger than the Bijuu but w/e Obito still snipes it. Doesn't matter how far the stretch they aren't fast enough to catch Obito plus he can slip through them so there completely useless and irrelevant. Madara can't take out Obito before the build up this is what this comes down to so stop with the non-sense.

It is.

-dwarfs Myojinmon.
-Myojinmon dwarfs Bijuu. Bijuu can sit on top of Myojinmon. :lol

Where are you getting all this nonsense from? These branches caught the entire world's population in a matter of moments. They are large, they are fast, and Obito isn't dodging shit while in PS as no PS has ever shown speed on that level. I've already addressed the last sentence, and Obito being able to slip through them is irrelevant because they aren't to take Obito out. So stop mentioning that. :lol Read pal.

He's never going to get caught. TSB explosion shits on roots Kamui shurikens does as well plus their weapons/extensions to a Susanoo and Susanoo have shown to have limitless amount of time they can use there weapons/extensions. Can Sasuke run out of Susanoo arrows? Nope can Itachi run out of Magatama's. You talk about Fanfic? I want to see Madara preform planetary Jukai kotan without I.T. Also when Obito spit the Juubi Madara ask with a question mark if he's going to use Infinite Tsukuyomi implying that he could do other things with Juubi. Unless you think Madara was just being ignorant and asking a question to something that he already knew was going to happen like when someone see you with Milk and bow and a spoon and ask you are you going to make Cereal.(Not the best example i know)

Unless anything you listed above can permanently destroy the Shinju's roots or cover enough AoE to rape something on a global scale don't bother mentioning it. Your dumb strategy has Obito spamming small attacks in comparison to Jukai Kotan, a technique that literally are the Shinju's roots and can spread across the entire world. :lol

Jukai Kotan and IT aren't the same jutsu. IT is used to trap them in Genjutsu and Jukai Kotan is used to absorb their chakra and tether them to the Shinju. So this point is irrelevant. And the bold is probably the most ridiculous point I have ever seen. First of all, the "other things" can be anything else the Shinju is capable of as it can do more than IT. Second of all, people in real life and in fiction have asked questions like this that don't need any answer so I'm not sure what you thought you were getting at.

Obito never puts up his ps until his Chakra storing his ready he just simply slip through Madara's techs.

And what exactly does this change? If he doesn't have Susanoo up Madara has no reason to ever put his Susanoo up. :lol Jesus.