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That tiny cut ... what? Karin never healed him from that. What are you talking about? Also, this debate is irrelevant, as Bee and Sasuke both used Ninjutsu there.

Are you serious right now or just one of those ones who won't back down when he's wrong? It wasn't one tiny cut at all but I admire your dedication to saying something so blantatly wrong. This is the events as they happened
Sasuke gets stabbed 6 times at once, 1 dead center of his chest and twice more in his lungs. Sasuke manages to prevent the lethal area hits from delivering a lethal finish but ends up on the floor vulnerable to a finishing shot.
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Sasuke gets saved from a death blow
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Karin uses that save by Suigetsu to heal Sasuke from his 6 stab wounds; you seem to think because they only focused on one the other 5 wounds weren't there or something, no they were there and they were healed as well.
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But, let me reply anyway as you replied: Viz Translation, "thank you, Karin." The wounds were never fatal. The point was skill here. Sasuke proved to be the more skilled one. No body claimed that Sasuke wasn't injured. He was. But the wounds were minor compared to the fatal wounds that could have straight up killed him. He also healed, because he was already badly injured. Add this injury on top and he absoluely needed to heal. Already posted a scan for this. So, no body is clinging. As everything is backed with manga evidence. Heck, Bee disagrees. What's there to debate?

The scan we both posted and this site itself hosts both say "Karin you SAVED me"
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Sasuke even wakes up panting because of the lost air of having both lungs stabbed.

If Sasuke was the more skilled one he wouldn't have been knocked on the floor posed for a kill shot do you even know what skill means? If Sasuke was more skilled he wouldn't have needed Taka to keep distrascting Bee, he wouldn't have needed to drop his sword and use Chidori. Bee outclassed him in swordplay that's why he resorted to ninjutsu. Sasuke had more potential and growth but he absolutely in no way shape or form had better sword skills then Bee then, he may now but really he just relies on his overwhelming power difference not technique.

Bee showing he was impressed Sasuke stopped them from killing him isn't even in the same country as him saying Sasuke is better with a sword the **** you on?

His stabs failed as he meant to kill him. No body is using words to play you as I am the one who posted the detailed scans. Already explained the healing part above.

GTFO right now, right now. Firstly I posted the scans to you, you're not the one who posted anything. Second, Bee never claimed to be there to kill Sasuke whereas the same can't be said for Taka because halfway through the battle they started trying to kill him. Just because you feel Sasuke could have doesn't mean **** since Kishi decided he shouldn't.


So? Who cares? Sasuke has only one sword. With that out of the picture, there was nothing he could do. The best he could do was throw it in another hand and use Chidori to avoid the fatal hits. Evading Bee was not an option when Bee was so close.

What does this even have to do with anything I said r the topic? If Sasuke loses his only sword that's on him, you can't bust out full on ninjutsu in a sword battle and say no it's okay I lost my sword. If you lose your only sword in the middle of a sword battle you better be able to disarm your opponent or you lost. Besides this whole point is moot, 1 on 1 Bee beat Sasuke and shown here
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No help = No Sasuke there's literally nothing that can refute this, If there were onloy those two than the fight we saw would have ended without Bee even going into cloak form.

Suigetsu said to kill him? You do realize that when Bee was falling down, Sasuke could have easily blitzed him and cut his head off? You also realize that when Suigetsu had Bee in his Hydrafication, Sasuke could have speared it through his skull? You also realize that he could have never turned off Amatrerasu, killing Bee? Going at someone with the intent doesn't mean he intended to kill him when he deliberately didn't kill Bee here. Thrice, might I add.
So did Bee right before he created the opening for Kenjutsu? Heck, he created it with injecting more Raiton chakra and Ninjutsu. What's your point? It's OK for Bee to use it, but if Sasuke does it, it's fowl play?




Bee created the whole opening with Ninjutsu:

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Bee's Sword was covered with Raiton charge when Sasuke struck his blade against his. Your Suigtesu example also falls along the same lines, as Bee was using Ninjutsu there as well:

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Sasuke never received a fatal blow from Bee other than after that Genjutsu. How many times do I have to post that scan? Are you deliberately ignoring the manga? Seriously?

Well now it's official you didn't bother to read the OP and are just arguing based on your thoughts rather than the thread. OP said coating your blade with an element is acceptable. So using that as an excuse in this thread has no place.

But even if it did, Sasuke used raiton first, Bee matched him. Right before that page at the start of the attack Sasuke adds lightning on his blade and Taka says stuff like nothing can stop a raiton blade.
 

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Are you serious right now or just one of those ones who won't back down when he's wrong? It wasn't one tiny cut at all but I admire your dedication to saying something so blantatly wrong. This is the events as they happened
Sasuke gets stabbed 6 times at once, 1 dead center of his chest and twice more in his lungs. Sasuke manages to prevent the lethal area hits from delivering a lethal finish but ends up on the floor vulnerable to a finishing shot.

Sasuke did get a tiny cut in the Kenjutsu battle. What am I denying? Already covered the stabs part.

Sasuke gets saved from a death blow

Karin uses that save by Suigetsu to heal Sasuke from his 6 stab wounds; you seem to think because they only focused on one the other 5 wounds weren't there or something, no they were there and they were healed as well.

Covered this as well.

The scan we both posted and this site itself hosts both say "Karin you SAVED me"
Sasuke even wakes up panting because of the lost air of having both lungs stabbed.

What are you reading? Gave the VIZ translation for this. He says, "Thank you, Karin." He never got "saved" there as you have repeatedly claimed as some kind of fact. The second line is just plain fictional. Heck, so is the first line.

If Sasuke was the more skilled one he wouldn't have been knocked on the floor posed for a kill shot do you even know what skill means? If Sasuke was more skilled he wouldn't have needed Taka to keep distrascting Bee, he wouldn't have needed to drop his sword and use Chidori. Bee outclassed him in swordplay that's why he resorted to ninjutsu. Sasuke had more potential and growth but he absolutely in no way shape or form had better sword skills then Bee then, he may now but really he just relies on his overwhelming power difference not technique.

If Bee was more skilled, he wouldn't have allowed an injured man from making three movements from literally two inches away when the stab movement was already made. If you cannot see skill in this, then let be it your own subjective opinion that is subject to not be taken seriously then.

He used Chidori to gain an upper hand. This part of your post makes no sense. Is Ninjutsu with a sword not allowed or something? Never claimed Sasuke had more Kenjutsu skills than Bee. Don't type things nobody claimed. To me, they are on equal footing; one is better at offense and the other at defense.

GTFO right now, right now. Firstly I posted the scans to you, you're not the one who posted anything. Second, Bee never claimed to be there to kill Sasuke whereas the same can't be said for Taka because halfway through the battle they started trying to kill him. Just because you feel Sasuke could have doesn't mean **** since Kishi decided he shouldn't.

So edgy and cool. Anyhow, Bee transformed into BM, used his cloaked form and let loose a Bijuu Dama, went at Sasuke with an intent to kill several times whereas Sasuke didn't avail three instances ... yup, he wasn't serious at all. No sir. Gotta go with your version.

Let's see what fictions you posted:

He was panting, because his lungs got punctured. Evidence? Nowhere. Made-up completely.
He got saved as he says so to karin. Evidence? Provided it three times that the translation is false. It's not my fault you cannot seem to read.
Sasuke was more skilled than Bee. Evidence? Never claimed it.


Already covered this as well.

Well now it's official you didn't bother to read the OP and are just arguing based on your thoughts rather than the thread. OP said coating your blade with an element is acceptable. So using that as an excuse in this thread has no place.

But even if it did, Sasuke used raiton first, Bee matched him. Right before that page at the start of the attack Sasuke adds lightning on his blade and Taka says stuff like nothing can stop a raiton blade.

Doesn't matter who used it first, they both had it when the Swords clashed. So, pointless argument, really.
 
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Bee has him matched and surpassed on movements and stops his ration blade
I didn't wanna post each page because it's literally the entire chapter

I'll leave these two pics though and notice the wording Death bares it's fangs, that's Kishi telling us Bee was gonna win.
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Annnnnd Suigetsu saves him. Discussion over, Sasuke lost 1v1 against Bee in Kinjutsu in that instance.
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He was so done, he needed Karin just to get him back in the fight
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So explain again how Bee didn't win that match? And you can see his stabs worked since Sasuke is healing a wound in that panel. Sasuke even resorted to ninjutsu while Bee stayed with his swords.
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Oh man look Sasuke almost dies again
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So Sasuke lost the sword fight and the fight.

What does this prove, this was an inexperienced teenager vs a old ass man whose had more years with a sword than Sasuke had on the earth so...current adult sasuke with 1 arm and only use a sword wrecks, bee, mifune, kakashi, darui, orochimaru, kisame, all the 7 ninja swordsman ever all at the same time Neg diff....


Current sasuke is too damn fast his first step would be an instant kill, every step he takes would result.in an instant kill because he is too fast for anybody below rikudo enhanced or otsutsuki level
 

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Kbee>Sasuke in kenjutsu
 

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Sasuke did get a tiny cut in the Kenjutsu battle. What am I denying? Already covered the stabs part.



Covered this as well.



What are you reading? Gave the VIZ translation for this. He says, "Thank you, Karin." He never got "saved" there as you have repeatedly claimed as some kind of fact. The second line is just plain fictional. Heck, so is the first line.



If Bee was more skilled, he wouldn't have allowed an injured man from making three movements from literally two inches away when the stab movement was already made. If you cannot see skill in this, then let be it your own subjective opinion that is subject to not be taken seriously then.

He used Chidori to gain an upper hand. This part of your post makes no sense. Is Ninjutsu with a sword not allowed or something? Never claimed Sasuke had more Kenjutsu skills than Bee. Don't type things nobody claimed. To me, they are on equal footing; one is better at offense and the other at defense.



So edgy and cool. Anyhow, Bee transformed into BM, used his cloaked form and let loose a Bijuu Dama, went at Sasuke with an intent to kill several times whereas Sasuke didn't avail three instances ... yup, he wasn't serious at all. No sir. Gotta go with your version.

Let's see what fictions you posted:

He was panting, because his lungs got punctured. Evidence? Nowhere. Made-up completely.
He got saved as he says so to karin. Evidence? Provided it three times that the translation is false. It's not my fault you cannot seem to read.
Sasuke was more skilled than Bee. Evidence? Never claimed it.



Already covered this as well.



Doesn't matter who used it first, they both had it when the Swords clashed. So, pointless argument, really.

You are beyond ridiculous, post your viz scan then where Sasuke doesn't admit she saved him because I've posted the scan twice already where he says it. If you can't even post a page of this then you have nothing to argue as everything shows you to be wrong. You haven't shown a single piece of evidence yet all you've been doing is denying the images presented in the manga.

You covered it, wrong. Sasuke was saved from a death blow by Suigetsu and he was revived by Karin, if neither had been there SAsuke would have died, therefor he lost the sword match.

Never claimed Sasuke had more Kenjutsu skills than Bee
That's all you've been claiming this entire thread but it's clear by how these posts have gone you have no capabilities to comprehend the manga, these posts or debates so go on continue living your life as one of the minority who actually believes Sasuke in any shape or form won that fight against Bee.

Manga evidence shows pant word bubbles in that page, page before it shows swords going in on angles from his side that's where your lungs are I'm sure even grade schoolers like you can do that math.

You haven't provided anything you just keep saying it, I think you need to go buy a dictionary. Provided means show proof of a claim so far all you've done is make a claim whereas I posted the proof from the manga that this very site hosts where he says Karin you saved me and she says yeah. So I'll humor your idiocy and give you one last chance. If you can't post a scan from Viz where it doesn't have the words Saved me in that panel then there's no reason to continue with someone who can't back up his own opinions. Everything I've said I've given you a scan to stand behind it's not my fault you choose to deny what's right in front of your eyes.

I love when people get proven wrong then say yeah well this whole topics pointless anyway. It wasn't pointless 20 mins ago when you were trying to convince people you were right lol poor egos smh.
 

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You are beyond ridiculous, post your viz scan then where Sasuke doesn't admit she saved him because I've posted the scan twice already where he says it. If you can't even post a page of this then you have nothing to argue as everything shows you to be wrong. You haven't shown a single piece of evidence yet all you've been doing is denying the images presented in the manga.

You covered it, wrong. Sasuke was saved from a death blow by Suigetsu and he was revived by Karin, if neither had been there Sasuke would have died, therefor he lost the sword match.

That's all you've been claiming this entire thread but it's clear by how these posts have gone you have no capabilities to comprehend the manga, these posts or debates so go on continue living your life as one of the minority who actually believes Sasuke in any shape or form won that fight against Bee.

Manga evidence shows pant word bubbles in that page, page before it shows swords going in on angles from his side that's where your lungs are I'm sure even grade schoolers like you can do that math.

You haven't provided anything you just keep saying it, I think you need to go buy a dictionary. Provided means show proof of a claim so far all you've done is make a claim whereas I posted the proof from the manga that this very site hosts where he says Karin you saved me and she says yeah. So I'll humor your idiocy and give you one last chance. If you can't post a scan from Viz where it doesn't have the words Saved me in that panel then there's no reason to continue with someone who can't back up his own opinions. Everything I've said I've given you a scan to stand behind it's not my fault you choose to deny what's right in front of your eyes.

I love when people get proven wrong then say yeah well this whole topics pointless anyway. It wasn't pointless 20 mins ago when you were trying to convince people you were right lol poor egos smh.

I am more of a light-hearted romantic, but I shall try to accommodate that attack as well. If only by molding it more to my liking. Shoo clever! As for the Viz scan, then let me ask around and see if anyone still has it. Back in the day it was posted a lot on here. But, I am sure once it is posted, you will just craft another petty excuse as these paragraphs show. I asked you for scans to show me that he was breathing deeply as his lungs got stabbed through. Where are they? Didn't I post and made reference to that Killer Bee scan about five times? Then you have the gall to talk about comprehension?

I didn't know this make-believe fight has Sasuke heavily injured and inhibited as well. But hey, gotta go with the fight that makes your half-backed, sans scans argument seem slightly valid.

Nobody cares what a bunch of degenerates that cannot read a simple visual image right believe, when Bee and Hachibi straight up disprove the whole thing. Bee never won the entire fight and his intention to stab and kill his opponent miserabily failed. He himself admits it. Nobody cares if you disagree or your imaginary "many many" people do. If it is the sole argument that you have, then you might as well just keep it, as that's the oldest trick in the book, "I am right, because I have a bunch of fools backing me." In fact, nothing you have stated about the stabs is even remotely canon. It's fiction. But hey, "people believe me and I got comprehension on my side ... just no manga scans to back up this context." Seen this game play out too many times on NB to take it seriously.

What have you proven wrong? That Karin claim is false. He was breathing deeply becasue his lungs got punchtered. Made up fiction. That's two claims that don't even exist in the manga. Yup, ironic.
 
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What the hell is this debate about?? A newly MS Sasuke has nothing on Adult Rinnengan Sasuke. Meaning bee would be killed in seconds..
 

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What the hell is this debate about?? A newly MS Sasuke has nothing on Adult Rinnengan Sasuke. Meaning bee would be killed in seconds..

You are late to the party. I simply need a Viz scan to end this nonsense. I have asked a few people, let's see if they can get it.
 

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A viz scan of what?



^ This page. Man, I should have saved it when Dantee posted it way back. Might as well just ask for it in the Viz scan thread.
 

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You are beyond ridiculous, post your viz scan then where Sasuke doesn't admit she saved him because I've posted the scan twice already where he says it. If you can't even post a page of this then you have nothing to argue as everything shows you to be wrong. You haven't shown a single piece of evidence yet all you've been doing is denying the images presented in the manga.

You covered it, wrong. Sasuke was saved from a death blow by Suigetsu and he was revived by Karin, if neither had been there SAsuke would have died, therefor he lost the sword match.


That's all you've been claiming this entire thread but it's clear by how these posts have gone you have no capabilities to comprehend the manga, these posts or debates so go on continue living your life as one of the minority who actually believes Sasuke in any shape or form won that fight against Bee.

Manga evidence shows pant word bubbles in that page, page before it shows swords going in on angles from his side that's where your lungs are I'm sure even grade schoolers like you can do that math.

You haven't provided anything you just keep saying it, I think you need to go buy a dictionary. Provided means show proof of a claim so far all you've done is make a claim whereas I posted the proof from the manga that this very site hosts where he says Karin you saved me and she says yeah. So I'll humor your idiocy and give you one last chance. If you can't post a scan from Viz where it doesn't have the words Saved me in that panel then there's no reason to continue with someone who can't back up his own opinions. Everything I've said I've given you a scan to stand behind it's not my fault you choose to deny what's right in front of your eyes.

I love when people get proven wrong then say yeah well this whole topics pointless anyway. It wasn't pointless 20 mins ago when you were trying to convince people you were right lol poor egos smh
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I would just ignore him, he is obviously trolling.
 

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What the hell is this debate about?? A newly MS Sasuke has nothing on Adult Rinnengan Sasuke. Meaning bee would be killed in seconds..

They obv debating on who is superior in kenjutsu and who got stomped in their 1 on 1. Sasuke got stomped obv I think that other guys is trolling.
 

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I am more of a light-hearted romantic, but I shall try to accommodate that attack as well. If only by molding it more to my liking. Shoo clever! As for the Viz scan, then let me ask around and see if anyone still has it. Back in the day it was posted a lot on here. But, I am sure once it is posted, you will just craft another petty excuse as these paragraphs shows. I asked you for scans to show me that he was breathing deeply as his lungs got stabbed through. Where are they? Didn't I post and made reference to that Killer Bee scan about five times? Then you have the gall to talk about comprehension?

I didn't know this make-believe fight has Sasuke heavily injured and inhibited as well. But hey, gotta go with the fight that makes your half-backed, sans scans argument seem slightly valid.

Nobody cares what a bunch of degenerates that cannot read a simple viusal image right believe, when Bee and Hachibi straight up disprove the whole thing. Bee never won the entire fight and his intention to stab and kill his opponent miserabily failed. He himself admits it. Nobody cares if you disagree or some imaginary people do. If it is the sole argument that you have, then you might as well just keep it, as that's the oldest trick in the book, "I am right, because I have a bunch of fools backing me." In fact, nothing you have stated about the stabs is even remotely canon. It's fiction. But hey, "people believe me and I got comprehension on my side ... just no manga scans to back up this context." Seen this game play out too many times on NB to take it seriously.

What have you proven wrong? That Karin claim is false. He was breathing deeply becasue his lungs got punchtered. Made up fiction. That's two claims that don't even exist in the manga. Yup, ironic.

That's a lot of pretty words for still having no picture to back up your claim. So to recap you claim it says nothing about saving, yet every manga page available has the words Karin you saved me on them.
 

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That's a lot of pretty words for still having no picture to back up your claim. So to recap you claim it says nothing about saving, yet every manga page available has the words Karin you saved me on them.

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But, I am dead sure you will make about five excuses for this one too. Let's bet five bucks on it. So, guess what? Your whole argument surrounding he punctured lungs, the huffing, the mortal wounds and what not are not worth the consideration. They are non-canon and made up.
 
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They obv debating on who is superior in kenjutsu and who got stomped in their 1 on 1. Sasuke got stomped obv I think that other guys is trolling.

But why.. That fight has nothing to do with the thread.. Bee has no chance against adult Sasuke
 

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But, I am dead sure you will make about five excuses for this one too. Let's bet five bucks on it. So, guess what? Your whole argument surrounding he punctured lungs, the huffing, the mortal wounds and what not are not worth the consideration. They are non-canon and made up.

There's still panting even in those panels. It says Huf Huf in two different panels. So he didn't say saved me in the viz, you were right about one translation point. Karin didn't save him, but Suigetsu still did.
 

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There's still panting even in those panels. It says Huf Huf in two different panels. So he didn't say saved me in the viz, you were right about one translation point. Karin didn't save him, but Suigetsu still did.

There you go. Now was that so hard?
 

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LMFAO

>Drawing shows Sasuke getting saved.
>Needs panel of Sasuke saying he was saved for it to have happened.

He is trolling.
 

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LMFAO

>Drawing shows Sasuke getting saved.
>Needs panel of Sasuke saying he was saved for it to have happened.

He is trolling.

You came here to add to the circle jerk? Brilliant.
 
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