Sasuke doesn't have borrowed power

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Sasuke didn't beg for the curse seal and Orochimaru didn't give him power, pills did

I'm a retard? I drive a Lotus and what do you

Btw driving a lotus doesn't make you not retarded, if you do nice car
 

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Youre right. He has stolen and given powers, not borrowed.
 

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Youre right. He has stolen and given powers, not borrowed.

Your forgetting Sasuke lost power such as Curse Seal permanently, never to regain again meaning never having Senjutsu chakra again. Then again Sasuke is crazy for not learning Sage Mode like Kabuto.
 

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Correct. Uchihas used Sharingans of fallen comrades all the time to learn the secrets of Sharingan and create Izanami and other techs. This is clearly mentioned in the stories Itachi narrates on Uchihas trying to gain EMS and the abuse of Izanagi and the creation of its pair, Izanami. Naruto wankers simply need poor excuses to validate his fox-chakra hogging. It isn't the same. It'll never be the same no matter which way anyone spins it. As one is Clan legacy and the other isn't.

CS was never a borrowed power, as Sasuke fought for his life, led Orochimaru into a trap and defeated him on the tier he had chosen for Sasuke. He was impressed and he forced it upon him; a seal which is survived through by one in ten people. Sasuke earned that power. Unlike Naruto.

The only power I would legitimately call borrowed or gifted would be the Sage's Chakra. But as Sasuke was the only person capable enough to awaken Rinnegan, it loses half of its meaning.
 

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I am surprised there is no databook about EMS, since we have a Databook about Sharingan, Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnengan. I wonder if there is a databook on Rinne-Sharingan which Kaguya and Madara has.
 

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Your forgetting Sasuke lost power such as Curse Seal permanently, never to regain again meaning never having Senjutsu chakra again. Then again Sasuke is crazy for not learning Sage Mode like Kabuto.
This doesnt change the fact that Curse Seal was given to him.
 

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This doesnt change the fact that Curse Seal was given to him.

Maybe I misunderstood what you meant in your previous post, but didn't you say Sasuke stolen and given power, but not borrowed? I was just adding that Sasuke lost his borrowed power even though he worked hard.

Anyway I agree the Curse Seal was given to him, just like how Naruto was given Kurama both not having a choice in the matter.
 

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Uchiha fans base = nuu, Uchiwa power is solo
All other fanbase = knows what Uchiha stands for.
Can't reach ems and Rinnegan without external power up. In other words, they would remain blind fodders
 

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Uchiha fans base = nuu, Uchiwa power is solo
All other fanbase = knows what Uchiha stands for.
Can't reach ems and Rinnegan without external power up. In other words, they would remain blind fodders

It is like they didn't even read the Manga.
 

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Correct. Uchihas used Sharingans of fallen comrades all the time to learn the secrets of Sharingan and create Izanami and other techs. This is clearly mentioned in the stories Itachi narrates on Uchihas trying to gain EMS and the abuse of Izanagi and the creation of its pair, Izanami. Naruto wankers simply need poor excuses to validate his fox-chakra hogging. It isn't the same. It'll never be the same no matter which way anyone spins it. As one is Clan legacy and the other isn't.

CS was never a borrowed power, as Sasuke fought for his life, led Orochimaru into a trap and defeated him on the tier he had chosen for Sasuke. He was impressed and he forced it upon him; a seal which is survived through by one in ten people. Sasuke earned that power. Unlike Naruto.

The only power I would legitimately call borrowed or gifted would be the Sage's Chakra. But as Sasuke was the only person capable enough to awaken Rinnegan, it loses half of its meaning.

So with all this crap you just said you really think Naruto didnt earn Kurama? All that he's been through? Wow.

News flash
Naruto struggled with Kyuubi since day 1 with no family since day 1.

Trained to try and control the power.
Eventually fought Kurama and was recognized by him stripping him of power and eventually gaining his respect.

And last but not least Naruto is the only one capable of handling Kyuubis chakra with such skill.

Both Sasuke and Naruto are the only existing ninja capable of wielding their power ups.
 
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Uchiha fans base = nuu, Uchiwa power is solo
All other fanbase = knows what Uchiha stands for.
Can't reach ems and Rinnegan without external power up. In other words, they would remain blind fodders

In a way it funny if a Uchiha wants to reach the pinnicle level of their Sharingan they need external power from someone. If a Uchiha wants to be a Jinchuuriki then he needs external DNA from either Senju or Uzumaki, although becoming a Jinchuuriki is a external power on itself.

Madara needed these to get to his pinnicle powers:
1st Madara brother eyes for EMS
2nd Hashirama DNA for Mokuton and Rinnengan and to be able to become a Jinchuuriki
3rd Juubi Jin
 

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Maybe I misunderstood what you meant in your previous post, but didn't you say Sasuke stolen and given power, but not borrowed? I was just adding that Sasuke lost his borrowed power even though he worked hard.
Yes i said this. He didnt borrow Curse Seal, it was given to him.
Anyway I agree the Curse Seal was given to him, just like how Naruto was given Kurama both not having a choice in the matter.
I disagree with this. Sasuke unlike newborn Naruto had choice.
 

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Correct. Uchihas used Sharingans of fallen comrades all the time to learn the secrets of Sharingan and create Izanami and other techs. This is clearly mentioned in the stories Itachi narrates on Uchihas trying to gain EMS and the abuse of Izanagi and the creation of its pair, Izanami. Naruto wankers simply need poor excuses to validate his fox-chakra hogging. It isn't the same. It'll never be the same no matter which way anyone spins it. As one is Clan legacy and the other isn't.

CS was never a borrowed power, as Sasuke fought for his life, led Orochimaru into a trap and defeated him on the tier he had chosen for Sasuke. He was impressed and he forced it upon him; a seal which is survived through by one in ten people. Sasuke earned that power. Unlike Naruto.

The only power I would legitimately call borrowed or gifted would be the Sage's Chakra. But as Sasuke was the only person capable enough to awaken Rinnegan, it loses half of its meaning.

Didn't kakashi help sasuke out by putting a seal on the curse mark? Or did I just imagine that scene....

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It is like they didn't even read the Manga.

Not to mention useless wank despite having zero knowledge about manga, always lol worthy posts tbh :lmao:
In a way it funny if a Uchiha wants to reach the pinnicle level of their Sharingan they need external power from someone. If a Uchiha wants to be a Jinchuuriki then he needs external DNA from either Senju or Uzumaki, although becoming a Jinchuuriki is a external power on itself.

Madara needed these to get to his pinnicle powers:
1st Madara brother eyes for EMS
2nd Hashirama DNA for Mokuton and Rinnengan and to be able to become a Jinchuuriki
3rd Juubi Jin
Glad to see someone at least knows how to comprehend
 
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