Sasuke's EMS Perfect Susanoo

[Holy God]

There's no appearance attached to Perfect Susano'o in regards to the blade. The only thing mentioned in its DB Entry is the manifestation of clad armor and the invocation of a "complete body", so it's pure speculation to assume that the blade has a significant factor in Perfect Susano'os appearance when Kishimoto doesn't seem to think so.

I was never a big fan of that specific argument in the first place, but you can't explain why Madara's sword is the same in both instances while Sasuke's isn't. The sword is always consistent; it isn't up to their imagination, just like their armor. This however, as you said, is pure speculation, just like saying their appearance is similar thus they are the same. The only solid fact is that Sasuke never used it otherwise despite wanting to end the fight as fast as possible.

Then Perfect Susano'os name wouldn't be included in Iso Susano'os Databook Entry because a Databook Entry for Kanseitai Susano'o hadn't been created yet.

That's not how it works. Kishimoto knew what Perfect Susano'o was before even making the Majestic Attire: Susano'o entry. I'm sure there have been times where characters or abilities have been mentioned before their actual appearance in the Databook.

 

[Netflix and Chill]

that's not PS but legged v3 susanoo. This is actually more closer to PS than that

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Lol I just realized you used KG's reply from a debate we had a couple years back

I guess I'll use my replays from that thread as well

No. If Sasuke had pulled out flying PS with Juugo supplying it with his senjutsu and Naruto went BSM against Juubito, that would have been a better plan, in many ways.

Like I mentioned in another thread, Sasuke with Naruto's cloak =

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Sasuke linked directly to Naruto's chakra =

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Sasuke after receiving

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Sasuke after receiving a boost from the

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Simple scaling.

Edit: oh wait I misquoted you, I ment to quote your post where you posted KG's reply, guess you deleted it.

 

[Netflix and Chill]

Actually here's the entire debate about Sasuke's PS where KG and his cronies jumped me for speaking logic if anyone's interested

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Back when I actually cared for debating people on here.

 

[NarutoX28]

I was never a big fan of that specific argument in the first place, but you can't explain why Madara's sword is the same in both instances while Sasuke's isn't. The sword is always consistent; it isn't up to their imagination, just like their armor. This however, as you said, is pure speculation, just like saying their appearance is similar thus they are the same. The only solid fact is that Sasuke never used it otherwise despite wanting to end the fight as fast as possible.

It wouldn't matter. That can easily be explained that the author specifically chooses to draw the blades the way he does is because that's his artistic style as opposed to Perfect Susano'os armor which is actually considered relevant to the author. I'm also not a fan of your argument, but Sasuke not opting for it can easily be explained through his ocular prowess naturally developing as he battled.

That's not how it works. Kishimoto knew what Perfect Susano'o was before even making the Majestic Attire: Susano'o entry. I'm sure there have been times where characters or abilities have been mentioned before their actual appearance in the Databook.

Fair enough.

 

[Holy God]

It wouldn't matter. That can easily be explained that the author specifically chooses to draw the blades the way he does is because that's his artistic style as opposed to Perfect Susano'os armor which is actually considered relevant to the author. I'm also not a fan of your argument, but Sasuke not opting for it can easily be explained through his ocular prowess naturally developing as he battled.

His artistic style did not deviate with Madara, which is the point of the comparison. Sasuke's Sharingan developing to a new level of Susano'o in such an instant once again goes into the realm of fiction (possible but not factual) and when that is relied upon to support another hypothesis, it becomes all too questionable. At the end of the day, the only true evidence to support the notion is appearance and I personally cannot accept that as evidence enough. It's really an irrelevant topic in the first place however since it wouldn't change the story as he obviously couldn't use it the majority of the fight.

 

[Jiren]

that's not PS but legged v3 susanoo. This is actually more closer to PS than that

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That is what the next stage of his Susanoo should look like.

 

[KidGamer65]

If people could read then no one would be making these threads, but considering you have the same morons from literally over a year ago "arguing" the same stance despite being proved wrong multiple times I'm not really surprised. That's why we have arguments like:

"lolol didn't use it against Obito so he doesn't have it"

Didn't use V4 Susanoo against Obito either. :lol

"lolol he didn't use it standalone"

Who cares? The question is does he have it, and that's proof.

"lolol Iso Susanoo takes on a form near identical to Perfect Susanoo's just for fun even if the user can only make up to a V4 Susanoo"

^^^ Stupidest argument I've ever read on this topic. Even though the jutsu is stated to be wrapping the user's Susanoo around Kurama. So how can Sasuke wrap a level of Susanoo around Kurama that he didn't possess in the first place? :lol

 

[Dizzldot]

If people could read then no one would be making these threads, but considering you have the same morons from literally over a year ago "arguing" the same stance despite being proved wrong multiple times I'm not really surprised. That's why we have arguments like:

"lolol didn't use it against Obito so he doesn't have it"

Didn't use V4 Susanoo against Obito either. :lol

"lolol he didn't use it standalone"

Who cares? The question is does he have it, and that's proof.

"lolol Iso Susanoo takes on a form near identical to Perfect Susanoo's just for fun even if the user can only make up to a V4 Susanoo"

^^^ Stupidest argument I've ever read on this topic. Even though the jutsu is stated to be wrapping the user's Susanoo around Kurama. So how can Sasuke wrap a level of Susanoo around Kurama that he didn't possess in the first place? :lol

Disproving an argument isn't proving yours

 

[KidGamer65]

Disproving an argument isn't proving yours

I don't need to disprove an argument to prove mine because the Manga already proves my argument. :lol All you jokers have to do is wipe your eyes and read it.

 

[Dizzldot]

I don't need to disprove an argument to prove mine because the Manga already proves my argument. :lol All you jokers have to do is wipe your eyes and read it.

No, the manga doesn't prove your argument in anyway considering sasuke never used PS before the rinnegan sorry bro you can speculated on the armor but you'll get nowhere without solid evidence aka him using PS

 

[KidGamer65]

No, the manga doesn't prove your argument in anyway considering sasuke never used PS before the rinnegan sorry bro you can speculated on the armor but you'll get nowhere without solid evidence aka him using PS

Pull your head out of your ass and learn what speculation is.

-Iso Susanoo covering Kurama w/ the user's Susanoo isn't speculation.
-Sasuke doing so isn't speculation.
-The armor Sasuke made for Kurama being identical to Perfect Susanoo isn't speculation.

"hahaa sasuke never used ps" is irrelevant when he can't cover Kurama w/ an armor he doesn't have. This is elementary logic kid.

Where is the speculation here? Oh wait, I expect no logical answer from you or anyone in this thread or on this site.

Not sure why you bothered to reply to my post if you had literally nothing intelligent to add to the discussion. :lol

 

[NarutoX28]

No, the manga doesn't prove your argument in anyway considering sasuke never used PS before the rinnegan sorry bro you can speculated on the armor but you'll get nowhere without solid evidence aka him using PS

So you're calling him out for speculating yet you're doing supposedly doing the same by assuming that Sasuke never used PS without any concrete evidence. That's rather amusing.

 

[123fire]

Rinnegan made sasuke perform PS

 

[Warlocks]

legged Susano = Sasuke with Kurama 's cloak

Iso Susanoo covering Kurama = sasuke with Kurama 's cloak

he never did none of this(legged Susano/Iso Susanoo covering Kurama) by himself

 

[patrickscott]

legged Susano = Sasuke with Kurama 's cloak

Iso Susanoo covering Kurama = sasuke with Kurama 's cloak

he never did none of this(legged Susano/Iso Susanoo covering Kurama) by himself

Oh come on man, the scan is right there. All juugo did was give him nature energy to be able to touch the God Tree remember? The rest was all him with legged Susanoo. That was as far as he could perfect it with his EMS because he didn't have six paths chakra to form full body. Therefore that was his EMS's perfect susanoo at that time to the best of his abilities.

 

[patrickscott]

Sorry bro. L

Lol what? That was his EMS's perfect Susanoo without six paths chakra, how many times do i need to state that in this thread?

 

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Teen Sasuke(EMS)

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Adult sasuke

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Wow very identical and they both have tengu Nose which is a Signature of PS and the Armor.

But wait, im a butthurt sasuke hater so he doesnt have PS.

 

[patrickscott]

Teen Sasuke(EMS)

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Adult sasuke

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Wow very identical and they both have tengu Nose which is a Signature of PS and the Armor.

But wait, im a butthurt sasuke hater so he doesnt have PS.

Bro all I am saying in this thread for the people that are mentally challenged is the obvious facct that since he used legged susanoo, it was pretty clear he had access to PS, however what he lacked was the powerful chakra to form the full body that's all.

 

[King Of Pop]

still cant believe this argument is going on.

legged Susano = Sasuke with Kurama 's cloak

Iso Susanoo covering Kurama = sasuke with Kurama 's cloak

he never did none of this(legged Susano/Iso Susanoo covering Kurama) by himself

wrong, sasuke had no cloak when using ps on kurama. take this fail out of here. seriously? its not that hard to read the manga

 

[lndra]

Lol what? That was his EMS's perfect Susanoo without six paths chakra, how many times do i need to state that in this thread?

That's not PS bro