Misunderstood: Kotoamatsukami

[Sasuke The Solo God]

People believe that it is a one shot infallible pown and i'm here to suggest an alternative to its power and why we've seen shisui not use it like on uchiha clan head or danzou.

1. For koto to work, the idea/thought implanted into the opponents head must be reasonable and believable. Saying in a one v one shisui one shots with koto command suicide will only work on someone already struggling with depression and thoughts of suicide bc its more believable.

2. Anyone with a strong will and strong self awareness will be able to challenge the thoughts implanted (especially suicide) and ultimately overcome it.

3. For it to work on the kinds of people in point 2. Shisui would have to give a more reasonable idea such as, this battle is not worth the casualties so we should retreat.

People who have a high regard for themselves and comrades will question *kill your team mates and urself*.

Yes I believe this is much like how inception(movie) works.

Any thoughts or counter arguments?

 

[Dizzldot]

He was confident it would work on the entire uchiha clan so Id say what he wants is pretty absolute

 

[Sasuke The Solo God]

He was confident it would work on the entire uchiha clan so Id say what he wants is pretty absolute

Then why didn't he do it? Instead, he knew it wouldn't work, thats why he gave his second eye to Itachi.

 

[Dizzldot]

Then why didn't he do it? Instead, he knew it wouldn't work, thats why he gave his second eye to Itachi.

He was planning on it if I remember and then danzo stole one of his eyes and everything went to shit and the anbu tried to kill him so he killed himself

 

[The Necromancer]

That's a possibility. The confirmed targets have all been influenced with an idea not outside of their own beliefs.

-Danzo's use on Mifune forced him to recommend Danzo lead the SA, an idea Mifune already stated he believed.
-Shisui desired to use it on Fugaku to stop the coup before it happened, Fugaku likely didn't want to resort to violence at all in the first place.
-Itachi obviously already wanted to defend Konoha, but needed to override Kabuto's mind control talisman.
-We don't know what context Ao and Shisui's battle was in, but it may have been a small skirmish between respected adversaries the way Minato and Bee fought as begrudging, yet respected enemies.
-And Danzo's desire to use it on Tobi might have made sense, as Tobi was likely the type to throw away any assets to further his own agenda.

 

[Jokule67]

Then why didn't he do it? Instead, he knew it wouldn't work, thats why he gave his second eye to Itachi.

Even Danzo knew it wouldnt work. Danzo may be an ass but he knows his stuff.

Lol Shisui may either be Kira from Death Note or Lelouche from Code Geass.

He was planning on it if I remember and then danzo stole one of his eyes and everything went to shit and the anbu tried to kill him so he killed himself

Shisui was most likely going to use it on Fugaku. Danzo didnt believe that would work and I dont either.

 

[The Necromancer]

Shisui was most likely going to use it on Fugaku. Danzo didnt believe that would work and I dont either.

Scan of that claim? Because Danzo stopping Shisui and stealing his eye is pretty good proof that he actually thought it would work.

 

[Draw]

Everyone on the base thinks Koto is the most powerful technique that is unrelated to god powers, so I mean this is a lost cause my friend. But you're right Koto does not just one shot someone

 

[The Necromancer]

Everyone on the base thinks Koto is the most powerful technique that is unrelated to god powers, so I mean this is a lost cause my friend. But you're right Koto does not just one shot someone

I mean... on paper, it does. It literally re-writes your memories as the user sees fit.

 

[Jokule67]

Scan of that claim? Because Danzo stopping Shisui and stealing his eye is pretty good proof that he actually thought it would work.

No, he didnt believe Shisui would succeed thats why he took matters into his own hands.

 

[The Necromancer]

No, he didnt believe Shisui would succeed thats why he took matters into his own hands.

Danzo didn't want Shisui to succeed... :|

 

[Jokule67]

Danzo didn't want Shisui to succeed... :|

Koto only works on one person. Thats a huge gamble amd Danzo did not trust Shisui.

 

[The Necromancer]

Koto only works on one person. Thats a huge gamble amd Danzo did not trust Shisui.

Danzo didn't want Shisui to succeed... :|

 

[Jokule67]

Danzo didn't want Shisui to succeed... :|

It wasnt a garrauntee that he would. Shisui was not confident in it himself. Changing one person doesnt change the whole clan.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Damn were down to 4 relevant threads in this section today, how sad :elmo:

Ot: every jutsu has a weakness

 

[The Necromancer]

It wasnt a garrauntee that he would. Shisui was not confident in it himself. Changing one person doesnt change the whole clan.

Sure. That's why Danzo ripped Shisui's eye out of his head, nearly jeopardizing his entire plan to wipe out the uchiha, gain a sleeper agent, and gain an arm full of Sharingan. /logic

 

[Jokule67]

Sure. That's why Danzo ripped Shisui's eye out of his head, nearly jeopardizing his entire plan to wipe out the uchiha, gain a sleeper agent, and gain an arm full of Sharingan. /logic

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He doesnt trust Shisui. Its obvious you overpower Koto to affect multiple people when it does not.

 

[The Necromancer]

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He doesnt trust Shisui. Its obvious you overpower Koto to affect multiple people when it does not.

-sigh-

He doesn't trust Shisui, because he knows Shisui will try to do something Danzo doesn't want.

That's why Danzo stopped him. It was directly contradictory to Danzo's goals.

I don't trust Hitler, doesn't mean we have the same goals but a different approach.

 

[Wolves]

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He doesnt trust Shisui. Its obvious you overpower Koto to affect multiple people when it does not.

bruh wut Lol

 

[Troyg39]

He doesnt trust Shisui. Its obvious you overpower Koto to affect multiple people when it does not.

Kage Summit bruh

OT: Question. Say in a one on one fight, you use Koto to make your opponent use a strong jutsu in their arsenal and believe it has defeated you, thus completely letting their guard down for a finishing blow of your own. Would this work and still make Koto sort of a one shot jutsu?