[Discussion] Is It Xenophobia If Europeans Want Their Countries To Remain Majority White??

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Marin

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Y'all sound hateful asf. You should be angry at your government.

If you choose to be oblivious to the negative effects this mass immigration has on our countries then it's no wonder you see us as hateful. It should also come to no suprise that we see you as ignorant.
 

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If you choose to be oblivious to the negative effects this mass immigration has on our countries then it's no wonder you see us as hateful. It should also come to no suprise that we see you as ignorant.

That is the fualt of Government policies. The people aren't doing much to change that.

You can be mad at the immigrants all you want, its not going to change anything.
 

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Y'all sound hateful asf. You should be angry at your government.

lol you clearly don't know anything about these countries. I don't see how you can have any input if you haven't experienced any of it first hand.
 

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That is the fualt of Government policies. The people aren't doing much to change that.

You can be mad at the immigrants all you want, its not going to change anything.

Why do you think we agree with the policies? I said already that they're the problem.
 

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Y'all sound hateful asf.
how so
i am not Europeon but i can see why the frustration is there.Uncheked immigration is only gonna create more problem
 
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hmm..

Is it xenophobia if the immigrants want to keep their separate and original identity and demand changes in the laws and customs to accommodate their culture?

Or is it xenophobia only if 'natives' want to preserve their culture and apprehensive of issues that may arise because of mass movement of alien population?
 
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To want your countries to remain majority white, you're implying something is wrong with having non-white people at a substantial amount around you. So yeah, I'd say it's latent xenophobia at the least.
 

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Is it Xenophobia if Africans and those of African descent want their lands, countries and wealth back? And if they want those countries to be majority black and not run by Western Governments/Empires or those planted by them?

Also, is it Xenophobia for Native Americans to want their lands back? As you are saying... #European Countries... etc etc. European Countries i guess should then be situated in 'Europe'. Europe being the operative word.

Then again.. to answer the OP:

European history and wealth has only been made by invading other peoples countries. Before they ask for their countries to be 'white' again maybe they should consider stepping out of other peoples countries themselves; or possibly give back the wealth and undo the damage they have done to other nations; bearing in mind it was often people from other nations who built up European civilization.

For people who say they want europe (or even the states) 'white again' i think they have some audacity.

Undo the damage done to other nations, end third world debt (i still cant understand a claim to third world debt when they are the ones who have drained those countries of their wealth plundering their natural resources and putting them in that situation...

Meh

And in regards to 'europe' does anything really need to be said??

Pay them for the 400+ years work and call it a day cool.

I almost wholeheartedly agreed with You until I remembered that the topic of pro-claimed 'xenophobia' in Europe revolves, not around political issues between ethnicities, but the common folk. Common foreigners who fail to respect women, leech off of welfare, idolize criminal behaviour and outdated primitive cultures. In that sense; many european nations were better off without a large percentage of immigrants. For example; there's Always an issue with, for one; morrocan People in the Netherlands. Always. I'm good with some of them but know a lot more that should Just be deported right away.

'Xenophobia' is a term used by the liberal left to put a blindfold on the masses as to ignore the actual inconvenient truths regarding the immigration drama. Nothing racist about wanting to deport problem makers out of your country if they refuse to properly integrate and respect common courtesy.

The common natives have nothing To do with the opprression their government is guilty of towards other countries.
 

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It is only considered Xenophobia if there isn't a good reason for the hate.
But it is proven that immigration and legality is a big issue in countries.
 

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i like Threads like this, shows how many sick ****s are on here.
 

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it's all about economics.
western countries have built their prosperity by stealing the wealth of all the others countries, and is still doing so. and now when people of these stolen countries flee to better life, built on the shoulders and dead bodies of their fathers, the western countries don't welcome them. of course, it's not in their interest.
it's all about scarcity, supremacie, war, economics.

don't give me that crap of open minded westeners advanced civilization. principles, united nations, law, it's all bullshit.
we're living in a jungle.

but what if we could supress scarcity ?

[video=youtube;Yb5ivvcTvRQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb5ivvcTvRQ[/video]
 

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it's all about economics.
western countries have built their prosperity by stealing the wealth of all the others countries, and is still doing so. and now when people of these stolen countries flee to better life, built on the shoulders and dead bodies of their fathers, the western countries don't welcome them. of course, it's not in their interest.
it's all about scarcity, supremacie, war, economics.

don't give me that crap of open minded westeners advanced civilization. principles, united nations, law, it's all bullshit.
we're living in a jungle.

but what if we could supress scarcity ?

[video=youtube;Yb5ivvcTvRQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb5ivvcTvRQ[/video]

Actually, they are welcomed and accepted into our welfare system. They Just pose many issues on the long run. Many of them think their outdatrd cultures are superior and refuse to adapt properly. The media does It's best to keep negative news of immigrants at bay but the facts keep stacking up and when People speak up they are called xenophobes and racist by ignorant sheep. Lordraikage's post is a good example.

Even on my vacation in southern Belgium and France it was made clear by the Walloniers (place in Belgium) that theft rates and sexual harrassment skyrocketed after that refugee centre appeared..in a place where there is no work.
 

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it's all about economics.
western countries have built their prosperity by stealing the wealth of all the others countries, and is still doing so. and now when people of these stolen countries flee to better life, built on the shoulders and dead bodies of their fathers, the western countries don't welcome them. of course, it's not in their interest.
it's all about scarcity, supremacie, war, economics.

don't give me that crap of open minded westeners advanced civilization. principles, united nations, law, it's all bullshit.
we're living in a jungle.

but what if we could supress scarcity ?

[video=youtube;Yb5ivvcTvRQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb5ivvcTvRQ[/ video]

I would be more impressed with that talk, if Turks and many of the "middle Easter"/ West Asian people hadn't invaded South Asia over and over and looted and enslaved people for centuries. ( mass slaughters, burning down universities and libraries yada yada..) Changed demographics and cultural sensibilities and beliefs and ended up carving out two large chunks out of the country in name of the newer religion.

Instead of pointing fingers people need to find a way to accept their own diversity in the region referred to as "middle east". When you cannot live up with your own diversities cultural or ethnic or different sects and are always at one war or another, accusing only others of not being tolerant enough is kind of empty.
 

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I would be more impressed with that talk, if Turks and many of the "middle Easter"/ West Asian people hadn't invaded South Asia over and over and looted and enslaved people for centuries. ( mass slaughters, burning down universities and libraries yada yada..) Changed demographics and cultural sensibilities and beliefs and ended up carving out two large chunks out of the country in name of the newer religion.

Instead of pointing fingers people need to find a way to accept their own diversity in the region referred to as "middle east". When you cannot live up with your own diversities cultural or ethnic or different sects and are always at one war or another, accusing only others of not being tolerant enough is kind of empty.

you didn't understand what I wanted to say, I always find that problem with you, concentrate more on what I've written.
 

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you didn't understand what I wanted to say, I always find that problem with you, concentrate more on what I've written.

She nailed it perfectly. If that's not what you said then you ought to construct your thoughts better.
 

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European history and wealth has only been made by invading other peoples countries. Before they ask for their countries to be 'white' again maybe they should consider stepping out of other peoples countries themselves; or possibly give back the wealth and undo the damage they have done to other nations; bearing in mind it was often people from other nations who built up European civilization.

For people who say they want europe (or even the states) 'white again' i think they have some audacity.

Undo the damage done to other nations, end third world debt (i still cant understand a claim to third world debt when they are the ones who have drained those countries of their wealth plundering their natural resources and putting them in that situation...

Meh

And in regards to 'europe' does anything really need to be said??

Pay them for the 400+ years work and call it a day cool.

 

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They should. However... it seems that after utilising other nations wealth and people to build up their own and at the expense of tose people; they dont want them anymore. Their job is done so they expect them to just go back where they came from. Taking no responsibility and benefiting from the wealth created whilst continuing to drain the countries of the resources.

I'd think that after having done all of that they should be the last to be complaining about foreign people in thei land.

it's all about economics.
western countries have built their prosperity by stealing the wealth of all the others countries, and is still doing so. and now when people of these stolen countries flee to better life, built on the shoulders and dead bodies of their fathers, the western countries don't welcome them. of course, it's not in their interest.
it's all about scarcity, supremacie, war, economics.

don't give me that crap of open minded westeners advanced civilization. principles, united nations, law, it's all bullshit.
we're living in a jungle.

but what if we could supress scarcity ?

Oh?

Singapore. Hong Kong. Macau.

All three were colonized by Europeans.

All three were barren wastelands that had and still have virtually zero natural resources.

And yet - all three are now wealthier and enjoy higher standards of living than your average European country.

You kids talk about economics but you seem to understand nothing about that subject; in particular, one of its few reliable and accurate models of the real world - which mathematically demonstrates that long-run economic growth is not driven by labour and capital:



Notice that while the capital function K plays an important role in the economic output function Y, the growth of Y and therefore the economy always converges to an equilibrium, regardless of capital. There is only one, and only one, thing that can increase economic output per worker in the long run - and that is the growth of technology, the term g in the model.

All European countries, with the partial exception of those unfortunate Eastern European states that were afflicted with communism (actually even they experienced significant growth, it's just that it was severely stunted compared to the west), have grown continuously since the industrial revolution. They did not reach a static equilibrium, and the highest economic growth rates precipitated in the late 20th century, long after Europeans supposedly 'stole' capital from you.

And likewise once communism was abandoned, East Asian countries, regardless of their initial resources (in fact East Asia is probably the most resource deficient part of the world humans inhabit), have exploded with economic growth.

The problem for you Africans and Muslims is that the term g is pretty much entirely a function of 'human capital' and that in turn is delimited by national cognitive ability.

You can have all the capital in the world but you will not enjoy first world living standards unless you have first world intelligence. Oil rich gulf Arab countries (Saudi, Qatar, UAE, Oman etc) have gotten around that problem by hiring intelligent foreigners to do all the infrastructure building for them. But they have failed to develop real economies outside the export of oil and once that black gold runs out, those countries will begin a downward spiral into the third world standards of living which is their potential.

By contrast nations like Japan, no matter how deficient they are in resources, will, by virtue of the high intelligence, and therefore human capital, of her people, find the means to first world living standards (Japan currently does so with its high-tech manufacturing in which it leads the world).
 
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If we're talking about the increase of migrants immigrating from the Middle East and North Africa to Europe over the passed year, the answer is no. That's not Xenophobia, it's Thanatophobia. You're assuming the reason they don't want mass immigration is because they want to maintain a white majority demographic, not because of the potential death and clashing cultural stances that bring upon said death.
 
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The answers to the questions this 'toff' has posed are simple.

Re. Question: How long must former colonial countries have to answer for the wealth they have stolen and the countries resources they have plundered?

Simple answer: For as long as those same countries continue to benefit from the same said wealth! For as long as politicians, that toff being one of them, are born inheriting that wealth from their forefathers who were slave owners. For as long as these countries CONTINUE to enter the lands of others doing the same thing yet acting like victims after instigating a refugee crisis! And for as long as the same governments continue to act as if they have no money for their own citizens, health services, etc. blaming poor government finance on immigration yet at the same time they are spending BILLIONS on nuclear weapons and money to line their own pockets! pulling the wool over the eyes of the masses, making their fellow rich get richer and the poorer in society get poorer; targeting the sick and the elderly! Avoiding tax, opening offshore accounts, giving themselves Million Pound/Dollar Bonuses and pay rises yet slashing the welfare of the most vulnerable: all whilst blaming it on 'immigration'. Bullshit. Immigration is an issue that can be resolved. However the crooked-handedness of these politicians is something that will take much longer!

Oh please! As i said (regarding them giving back what they have taken): Start treating people fairly and equally for a start! And stop trying to pocket public money! At the same time give back what you stole from those other nations as you are still making money from it, and the irony is that the same airhead citizens cant even see whats happening; they're blaming the immigrants. Dumbasses
 
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