[VS] Drake vs Kid

[Ultimodestructico]

Dude you simpleton, that is not what it is about.

The question is if Drake is stronger than Kidd at Sabaody, I don't care about rivalry and where they are in 20 years time.

There is only one answer, at sabaody Drake was obviously the strongest supernova.

Also all your yammering about I don't want to put time and effort into explaining this is the saddest excuse for not being able to find a panel with Kidd doing something. Look how much you already posted in this thread. If you had some actual facts you would have posted it by now.

But you don't. You have nothing

Yeah you have no evidence to support that Drake was the strongest Supernova pre time skip. You state that he kicked a pacifista into the sky or whatever with a kick. That didn't happen.

Kid's bounty is only higher because of civilian casualties, his bounty would still be high and in that range anyway.

I'm not sure what imaginary portrayal you are looking at because Kid has got all the portrayal.

Kid is portrayed to be rivals to Luffy and Law they have been portrayed to be the main 3 as they've actually shown an interest in finding One Piece and having the same dream. Luffy allies with Law, Eustass allies with Apoo and Hawkins. Luffy bounty is 400m, at the same time Eustass was 470m.

Law stated there were two ways to survive in the New World either go against the yonko or work under them. Law, Luffy, Eustass all have the same ideas and plan to take down the yonko. Eustass is one of the main competitors of Luffy and has shown an interest in him stating that he will meet him in the New World multiple times. You say Drake attacked Kaido? Did you see this happen? He attacked Kaido's ally to attract Kaido's attention and then started working under him. If Drake were in Eustass's position it would be the same result he would be beaten and put in a cage as would any other supernova.

You state people have nothing and no panels yet two of your main points which you keep mentioning "Drake kicked a pacifista" and "Kidd couldn't take Zoro's swords" never happened....So where are the panels that support your argument?

You mention how Kidd performed against the supernova yet that wasn't shown either so you're using non cannon material once again...

Even the Supernova that we see fighting Kizara and the pacifista, out of all of them Urouge performed better than Drake if not around the same. So where did you get the idea that Drake was the strongest supernova? He bit it got shot and transformed back, yet Law evaded the same beam. In the manga the beam did scrape Eustass's leg but that was all the damage we saw him take it was a scratch and then that's the last we saw of Eustass until later where he had no visible injuries.

You say I made myself look like a prick but that doesn't change the fact that you don't know the manga that well.....it's easy for you to use non canon material when people aren't going to challenge you on it.....

 

[Love Cook]

Yeah you have no evidence to support that Drake was the strongest Supernova pre time skip. You state that he kicked a pacifista into the sky or whatever with a kick. That didn't happen.

Kid's bounty is only higher because of civilian casualties, his bounty would still be high and in that range anyway.

I'm not sure what imaginary portrayal you are looking at because Kid has got all the portrayal.

Kid is portrayed to be rivals to Luffy and Law they have been portrayed to be the main 3 as they've actually shown an interest in finding One Piece and having the same dream. Luffy allies with Law, Eustass allies with Apoo and Hawkins. Luffy bounty is 400m, at the same time Eustass was 470m.

Law stated there were two ways to survive in the New World either go against the yonko or work under them. Law, Luffy, Eustass all have the same ideas and plan to take down the yonko. Eustass is one of the main competitors of Luffy and has shown an interest in him stating that he will meet him in the New World multiple times. You say Drake attacked Kaido? Did you see this happen? He attacked Kaido's ally to attract Kaido's attention and then started working under him. If Drake were in Eustass's position it would be the same result he would be beaten and put in a cage as would any other supernova.

You state people have nothing and no panels yet two of your main points which you keep mentioning "Drake kicked a pacifista" and "Kidd couldn't take Zoro's swords" never happened....So where are the panels that support your argument?

You mention how Kidd performed against the supernova yet that wasn't shown either so you're using non cannon material once again...

Even the Supernova that we see fighting Kizara and the pacifista, out of all of them Urouge performed better than Drake if not around the same. So where did you get the idea that Drake was the strongest supernova? He bit it got shot and transformed back, yet Law evaded the same beam. In the manga the beam did scrape Eustass's leg but that was all the damage we saw him take it was a scratch and then that's the last we saw of Eustass until later where he had no visible injuries.

You say I made myself look like a prick but that doesn't change the fact that you don't know the manga that well.....it's easy for you to use non canon material when people aren't going to challenge you on it.....

If you want to start over in a week old thread, go for it. But I won't be in it. Go read back the previous 2 pages of thread and you will find a lot of the answers.

And instead of trying to win your court case on a technical error, maybe just admit that there is nothing that portrays Kidd to be stronger at sabaody. I don't care about his growth and his potential because that was not what this thread is about.

Drake kicking the pacifista is canon though.

Don't know the manga well ?, b|tch I've been here since 2009 reading the manga weekly, you were still playing with your firetruck.

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So long asswipe.

 

[ToshiZO]

^Lmaooo


@Ultimo I can tell by your last reply you already read through the thread.

 

[Ultimodestructico]

If you want to start over in a week old thread, go for it. But I won't be in it. Go read back the previous 2 pages of thread and you will find a lot of the answers.

And instead of trying to win your court case on a technical error, maybe just admit that there is nothing that portrays Kidd to be stronger at sabaody. I don't care about his growth and his potential because that was not what this thread is about.

Drake kicking the pacifista is canon though.

Don't know the manga well ?, b|tch I've been here since 2009 reading the manga weekly, you were still playing with your firetruck.

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So long asswipe.

What answer? All I found was you talking crap about non cannon scenes in the anime.

When was anyone talking about growth? You said Drake had better portrayal when that wasn't the case. What are you comparing when we didn't see Kid fight a pacifista? How can you give someone better portrayal than another when we didn't see what the other can do?


I only came in because you were talking shit like Zoro held his swords down from kid and you mentioned the fight kidd had with the pacifista both of which were non cannon. But apparently when someone uses filler scenes from the anime it's a techincal error.... lol

So this thread is only a week long? So ****ing what? You were still talking nonsense and have no evidence to back up what you're saying.

X drake didn't kick the pacifista you can see right there in the scan you posted...

 

[Love Cook]

^Lmaooo


@Ultimo I can tell by your last reply you already read through the thread.

Don't think so because if that were the case he had to come to the conclusion that Drake is stronger at Sabaody, or he is just as stupid as you are.

 

[Ultimodestructico]

Don't think so because if that were the case he had to come to the conclusion that Drake is stronger at Sabaody, or he is just as stupid as you are.

And how is that? You gave no valid reason to why/how Drake would beat Kid? All you really had was portrayal and even still Kid had better portrayal. Everything else you said doesn't matter because it's non canon.

 

[Ultimodestructico]

^Lmaooo


@Ultimo I can tell by your last reply you already read through the thread.

It had to be done haha

 

[Love Cook]

And how is that? You gave no valid reason to why/how Drake would beat Kid? All you really had was portrayal and even still Kid had better portrayal. Everything else you said doesn't matter because it's non canon.

What are you not going to comment on the panel I provided you now ? First you write this whole sassy essay that I never posted that panel and that I don't know One Piece enough. Then I did the work for you and showed you that you were painfully wrong in the most ironic way by showing that it is you who doesn't know the difference between canon and anime. And all of a sudden you're hopping to a new topic.

But like I said unless you show me something that actually shows better Kidd portrayal I won't be posting here anymore. I fed the troll enough times now, you must be quite thick, if that is not the case at least your skull is.

So your homework for today, 1 panel that shows the better portrayal of Kidd over Drake.

Because in your own words:

even still Kid had better portrayal.

Good luck ! I can't wait to see a cool Kidd panel that hasn't been discovered yet.

 

[Nox]

Pre TS: Drake
Post TS: Kidd

The Supernova started their journey's at the same relative time. Which means when Luffy was trapped in a barrel, Drake had long been a RA. X Drake is 33. He is in the same age group as Smoker. Yet, held superiority to him. All that stood between him an VA level was haki. His performance in SA and subsequently fighting a NW pirate paints him in positive light.

However, I am inclined to give the TS fight to Kid. Alongside the SH he is one of the youngest Nova. The benefits of age means faster growth times/potential. People are quick to speak of portrayal but will dismiss the Kid-Law have shared with Luffy. Post TS, those two alongside Drake and Hawkins lead the news waves. All major moves in the NW have been instigated by them and whereas BB is Luffy's antithesis, Kidd is his foil. By no means I am saying he is equal to Luffy but i'll give him the nod. Stylistically Drake has shown he relies on blades which mean he is bound to be affected by Kid's DF. inb4Zorowasn't. As if somehow Kidd had directed his efforts to messing with him.

 

[Ultimodestructico]

What are you not going to comment on the panel I provided you now ? First you write this whole sassy essay that I never posted that panel and that I don't know One Piece enough. Then I did the work for you and showed you that you were painfully wrong in the most ironic way by showing that it is you who doesn't know the difference between canon and anime. And all of a sudden you're hopping to a new topic.

But like I said unless you show me something that actually shows better Kidd portrayal I won't be posting here anymore. I fed the troll enough times now, you must be quite thick, if that is not the case at least your skull is.

So your homework for today, 1 panel that shows the better portrayal of Kidd over Drake.

Because in your own words:



Good luck ! I can't wait to see a cool Kidd panel that hasn't been discovered yet.

I already commented about your panel. Drake didn't kick the pacifista I said and it shows right there his weapons are in front of him and his legs are behind him. I didn't ignore it you ignored my answer.

What new topic? You haven't stated any reasons as to why Kidd would lose to Drake? You're entire argument has crumbled the second you tried to use non cannon material. You stated you have 1 panel of Zoro resisting getting his swords taken away. Show us please? I don't care if it's 3 weeks old if someone is talking nonsense then it has to be argued.

You don't know One Piece or how to debate if you're using non cannon material to fight your point.

Show me the panel of someone resisting getting their weapon taken away.
Show me the panel of Eustass fighting a pacifista.

It's so easy for you to say Drake performed better when we didn't see Eustass fight. We know his ability is centred around magnetism yet you think Drake it gonna be holding onto his weapons? How?

The panels shows Eustass's portrayal are there.

Eustass:

Higher bounty than Luffy at 315m then when Luffy bounty was 400m his was 470m
Somehow he evaded Scrathmens attack which even Kizara didn't.
We've already seen he's a rival to Luffy and Law as they were standing and fought together and he stated lets meet again in the New World
He had the guts to attack Big Mom ships, fight Kaido and want to defeat Shanks.
While Luffy allied with one captain he allies with 2.
He has connections to the underworld.
He was his own base on an island.
He has also stated that he wants to find One Piece this alone makes him a rival to Luffy.
He is mentioned as one of the Big troublemakers by people in the New World. E.g. Tamago mentioned it, Brownbeard mentioned it, Kaido states he from THAT generation.
Crucified other pirates in the new world, he is ruthless, fearless, and will fight alone who challenges his dream as will Luffy.
He withstood Rayleigh's conquerors haki and Rayleigh even noted that him and Law did it so easily and were not pushovers.

Drake:

Hit a pacifista into a wall.
Bit a pacifista.
Former marine.
Attacked Scotch to get Kaido attention and then work under Kaido.
Stopped a fight between Uroge and Killer.
Also made a name for himself in the New World.
Beat Caribou.


What portrayal does Drake have that is better than Kid?

This is what you said:

"Good luck ! I can't wait to see a cool Kidd panel that hasn't been discovered yet"

So because Drake is cool he beats Kid in a fight? If non cannon scenes and portrayal are all you have then I'm sorry but it amounts to nothing here.

Who cares who is cooler? How is Drake beating Kid in a fight? His weapons that are the main focus of his attacks and only successful attacks already put him at a disadvantage to Kid. His dinosaur form is slow and has short arms, it's also a bigger target.

Just from the marines in front of him Kid gathered enough metal to make a hand that rivalled Luffy's gear 3rd in size and is no doubt stronger than rubber and there was no disadvantage of that attack e.g he wasn't tired, didn't strain his body like Luffy did.

I have to give Kid this fight.

 

[Love Cook]

I already commented about your panel. Drake didn't kick the pacifista I said and it shows right there his weapons are in front of him and his legs are behind him. I didn't ignore it you ignored my answer.

What new topic? You haven't stated any reasons as to why Kidd would lose to Drake? You're entire argument has crumbled the second you tried to use non cannon material. You stated you have 1 panel of Zoro resisting getting his swords taken away. Show us please? I don't care if it's 3 weeks old if someone is talking nonsense then it has to be argued.

You don't know One Piece or how to debate if you're using non cannon material to fight your point.

Show me the panel of someone resisting getting their weapon taken away.
Show me the panel of Eustass fighting a pacifista.

It's so easy for you to say Drake performed better when we didn't see Eustass fight. We know his ability is centred around magnetism yet you think Drake it gonna be holding onto his weapons? How?

The panels shows Eustass's portrayal are there.

Eustass:

Higher bounty than Luffy at 315m then when Luffy bounty was 400m his was 470m
Somehow he evaded Scrathmens attack which even Kizara didn't.
We've already seen he's a rival to Luffy and Law as they were standing and fought together and he stated lets meet again in the New World
He had the guts to attack Big Mom ships, fight Kaido and want to defeat Shanks.
While Luffy allied with one captain he allies with 2.
He has connections to the underworld.
He was his own base on an island.
He has also stated that he wants to find One Piece this alone makes him a rival to Luffy.
He is mentioned as one of the Big troublemakers by people in the New World. E.g. Tamago mentioned it, Brownbeard mentioned it, Kaido states he from THAT generation.
Crucified other pirates in the new world, he is ruthless, fearless, and will fight alone who challenges his dream as will Luffy.
He withstood Rayleigh's conquerors haki and Rayleigh even noted that him and Law did it so easily and were not pushovers.

Drake:

Hit a pacifista into a wall.
Bit a pacifista.
Former marine.
Attacked Scotch to get Kaido attention and then work under Kaido.
Stopped a fight between Uroge and Killer.
Also made a name for himself in the New World.
Beat Caribou.


What portrayal does Drake have that is better than Kid?

This is what you said:

"Good luck ! I can't wait to see a cool Kidd panel that hasn't been discovered yet"

So because Drake is cool he beats Kid in a fight? If non cannon scenes and portrayal are all you have then I'm sorry but it amounts to nothing here.

Who cares who is cooler? How is Drake beating Kid in a fight? His weapons that are the main focus of his attacks and only successful attacks already put him at a disadvantage to Kid. His dinosaur form is slow and has short arms, it's also a bigger target.

Just from the marines in front of him Kid gathered enough metal to make a hand that rivalled Luffy's gear 3rd in size and is no doubt stronger than rubber and there was no disadvantage of that attack e.g he wasn't tired, didn't strain his body like Luffy did.

I have to give Kid this fight.

Cool most of these feats are post time skip, really helpful for a pre-skip fight.

Smashing a pacifista with weapons or kicking whatever it's hard to tell on that panel, fact is that those weapons are also part of his arsenal so him using that is also part of his power. And it looks like his left leg is lining up for a kick or just coming back from one just like they portrayed it in the anime. There is also an impact mark near his leg. It still is a casual attack while every other supernova had to use powerful attacks to make an impact on a PX.

So everything you said changes nothing. Drake was the strongest on Sabaody, it's super cool and awesome he got so much portrayal standing next to god Luffy and pope Law making him some promise for the future, but we're talking about 'location - sabaody' here

 

[Ultimodestructico]

Cool most of these feats are post time skip, really helpful for a pre-skip fight.

Smashing a pacifista with weapons or kicking whatever it's hard to tell on that panel, fact is that those weapons are also part of his arsenal so him using that is also part of his power. And it looks like his left leg is lining up for a kick or just coming back from one just like they portrayed it in the anime. There is also an impact mark near his leg. It still is a casual attack while every other supernova had to use powerful attacks to make an impact on a PX.

So everything you said changes nothing. Drake was the strongest on Sabaody, it's super cool and awesome he got so much portrayal standing next to god Luffy and pope Law making him some promise for the future, but we're talking about 'location - sabaody' here

Note the word portrayal. You're acting like portrayal wins a fight. Either way Eustass had greater portrayal.

Drake feats at the time:

Rear Admiral
Hit a pacifista
Bit a pacifista
Shot by a pacifista
kicked by Kizaru
Ancient Zoan


Eustass at the time:

Higher bounty than Luffy at 315m then when Luffy bounty was 400m his was 470m
Somehow he evaded Scrathmens attack which even Kizaru didn't.
We've already seen he's a rival to Luffy and Law as they were standing and fought together and he stated lets meet again in the New World
He has also stated that he wants to find One Piece this alone makes him a rival to Luffy.
Crucified other pirates in the new world, he is ruthless, fearless, and will fight alone who challenges his dream as will Luffy.
He withstood Rayleigh's conquerors haki and Rayleigh even noted that him and Law did it so easily and were not pushovers.
Was fighting a pacifista and wasn't shown to be injured by the time Law got there.
Scratched by a pacifista.



Still not seeing what greater portrayal he has. Unless you have some secret panels for us? I also stated how Drake it at a disadvantage to kid and how he would win the fight. You still haven't given a reason to how Drake would win this fight other than portrayal? What portrayal???

 

[Love Cook]

Note the word portrayal. You're acting like portrayal wins a fight. Either way Eustass had greater portrayal.

Drake feats at the time:

Rear Admiral
Hit a pacifista
Bit a pacifista
Shot by a pacifista
kicked by Kizaru
Ancient Zoan


Eustass at the time:

Higher bounty than Luffy at 315m then when Luffy bounty was 400m his was 470m
Somehow he evaded Scrathmens attack which even Kizaru didn't.
We've already seen he's a rival to Luffy and Law as they were standing and fought together and he stated lets meet again in the New World
He has also stated that he wants to find One Piece this alone makes him a rival to Luffy.
Crucified other pirates in the new world, he is ruthless, fearless, and will fight alone who challenges his dream as will Luffy.
He withstood Rayleigh's conquerors haki and Rayleigh even noted that him and Law did it so easily and were not pushovers.
Was fighting a pacifista and wasn't shown to be injured by the time Law got there.
Scratched by a pacifista.



Still not seeing what greater portrayal he has. Unless you have some secret panels for us? I also stated how Drake it at a disadvantage to kid and how he would win the fight. You still haven't given a reason to how Drake would win this fight other than portrayal? What portrayal???

piss off worm, this has just gotten to a new level of stupid.

 

[Ultimodestructico]

piss off worm, this has just gotten to a new level of stupid.

Ahh random insults due to not having an argument. Success is so sweet so juicy. It was nice talking to you

 

[Love Cook]

Ahh random insults due to not having an argument. Success is so sweet so juicy. It was nice talking to you

No it's not succes you ponce. At some point it just isn't worth talking to retards anymore. You're spamming the same stuff like a broken record, and you don't care if you're right or wrong.

So one last time, I'll put you in your spot, after that you can go jerk yourself off in your captain Kidd cosplay with the iron grip again.

Note the word portrayal. You're acting like portrayal wins a fight. Either way Eustass had greater portrayal.

Drake feats at the time:

Rear Admiral
Hit a pacifista
Bit a pacifista
Shot by a pacifista
kicked by Kizaru
Ancient Zoan


Eustass at the time:

Higher bounty than Luffy at 315m then when Luffy bounty was 400m his was 470m
Somehow he evaded Scrathmens attack which even Kizaru didn't.
We've already seen he's a rival to Luffy and Law as they were standing and fought together and he stated lets meet again in the New World
He has also stated that he wants to find One Piece this alone makes him a rival to Luffy.
Crucified other pirates in the new world, he is ruthless, fearless, and will fight alone who challenges his dream as will Luffy.
He withstood Rayleigh's conquerors haki and Rayleigh even noted that him and Law did it so easily and were not pushovers.
Was fighting a pacifista and wasn't shown to be injured by the time Law got there.
Scratched by a pacifista.

First of all, the way you summarized this is already pretty childish, trying to make Drake's feats as small as possible and exaggerating Kidd's feats. Let's run by them one by one.

Higher bounty than Luffy.
I'll stop you right there, go to the start of this topic which you conveniently forgot and get educated by Shakky why his bounty is higher than Luffy's

Also Luffy was stuck on an island for 2 years with his bounty, and only weeks after that he got a 500M bounty surpassing Kidd. Somehow you couldn't resist to make this post time skip again

Evaded Apoo's attack

This was not even a serious fight but a skirmish, besides it was post timeskip. Kizaru only got hit because he is a logia and doesn't care and to demonstrate Apoo's powers in part 1. Same goes for Urouge's form and Drake's T-Rex. Unless you're saying that Kidd is better than Kizaru too, but if that is the case they should take away your internet in the mental hospital.

We've already seen he's a rival to Luffy and Law
Means shit, cool thing for the future isn't going to help him on sabaody

He has also stated that he wants to find One Piece this alone makes him a rival to Luffy.
Cool, he has dreams. Maybe in one of them he can beat Drake. Today we learned he got his ass kicked on Big Mom's island because of that. So Kidd is at least the character that got his ass handed to him by multiple yonkou.

Crucified other pirates in the new world
Crucifying fodder, always good to raise that fake bounty some more

He withstood Rayleigh's conquerors haki
He withstood shit, Rayleigh analyzed the situation before using his haki and only targeted the guards. Or do Brook and Bepo have the same iron will as Kidd ?

Was fighting a pacifista and wasn't shown to be injured by the time Law got there.


Without any indication of time or what happened this is pure speculation, but ok I guess not getting hit is just as impressive as sending one flying through a wall with a kick.

Scratched by a pacifista.

How is this a feat ?

Still not seeing what greater portrayal he has. Unless you have some secret panels for us? I also stated how Drake it at a disadvantage to kid and how he would win the fight. You still haven't given a reason to how Drake would win this fight other than portrayal? What portrayal???

Also when you replied on me last time and tried to lecture me on portrayal you clearly missed the sarcasm. Maybe the God Luffy and Pope Law wasn't enough to hint that. But you're the one talking about portrayal. I'm the one talking feats, let's make that clear. So the one thing I agree on with you is that portrayal doesn't win you fights.

The world portrays Buggy as a savior and fear him as a sSichibukai, bur his feats are shit
Dressrosa portrays Usopp as god, but his feats don't make him one
Kidd standing next to Law and Luffy portrays him as a rival, but that doesn't mean he is stronger than Drake on Sabaody. Who has run through the military ranks, is older, is smarter, and has shown better feats pre-skip.

So based of all that there is only one conclusion, you're indeed a worm, you should've just pissed off, and the insult wasn't random because what you typed really was a new level of stupid.

This was my last post, have fun *******.

 

[Ultimodestructico]

No it's not succes you ponce. At some point it just isn't worth talking to retards anymore. You're spamming the same stuff like a broken record, and you don't care if you're right or wrong.

So one last time, I'll put you in your spot, after that you can go jerk yourself off in your captain Kidd cosplay with the iron grip again.




First of all, the way you summarized this is already pretty childish, trying to make Drake's feats as small as possible and exaggerating Kidd's feats. Let's run by them one by one.

Higher bounty than Luffy.
I'll stop you right there, go to the start of this topic which you conveniently forgot and get educated by Shakky why his bounty is higher than Luffy's

Also Luffy was stuck on an island for 2 years with his bounty, and only weeks after that he got a 500M bounty surpassing Kidd. Somehow you couldn't resist to make this post time skip again

Evaded Apoo's attack

This was not even a serious fight but a skirmish, besides it was post timeskip. Kizaru only got hit because he is a logia and doesn't care and to demonstrate Apoo's powers in part 1. Same goes for Urouge's form and Drake's T-Rex. Unless you're saying that Kidd is better than Kizaru too, but if that is the case they should take away your internet in the mental hospital.

We've already seen he's a rival to Luffy and Law
Means shit, cool thing for the future isn't going to help him on sabaody

He has also stated that he wants to find One Piece this alone makes him a rival to Luffy.
Cool, he has dreams. Maybe in one of them he can beat Drake. Today we learned he got his ass kicked on Big Mom's island because of that. So Kidd is at least the character that got his ass handed to him by multiple yonkou.

Crucified other pirates in the new world
Crucifying fodder, always good to raise that fake bounty some more

He withstood Rayleigh's conquerors haki
He withstood shit, Rayleigh analyzed the situation before using his haki and only targeted the guards. Or do Brook and Bepo have the same iron will as Kidd ?

Was fighting a pacifista and wasn't shown to be injured by the time Law got there.


Without any indication of time or what happened this is pure speculation, but ok I guess not getting hit is just as impressive as sending one flying through a wall with a kick.

Scratched by a pacifista.

How is this a feat ?



Also when you replied on me last time and tried to lecture me on portrayal you clearly missed the sarcasm. Maybe the God Luffy and Pope Law wasn't enough to hint that. But you're the one talking about portrayal. I'm the one talking feats, let's make that clear. So the one thing I agree on with you is that portrayal doesn't win you fights.

The world portrays Buggy as a savior and fear him as a sSichibukai, bur his feats are shit
Dressrosa portrays Usopp as god, but his feats don't make him one
Kidd standing next to Law and Luffy portrays him as a rival, but that doesn't mean he is stronger than Drake on Sabaody. Who has run through the military ranks, is older, is smarter, and has shown better feats pre-skip.

So based of all that there is only one conclusion, you're indeed a worm, you should've just pissed off, and the insult wasn't random because what you typed really was a new level of stupid.

This was my last post, have fun *******.

I only came here because you were using non canon feats which you seem to be ignoring now how convenient I've asked you many times to show us the panel you have of Zoro resisting getting his swords taken? You still haven't shown or admitted you were wrong about this. It was non cannom. Also jerk off in cosplay? So if someone doesn't agree with you and has the opposite argument they are jerking off to the character? And you say you say my arguments and posts are childish lol.... stay salty bro

I never said having a higher bounty meant anything but seeing as you love portrayal so much I thought I'd mention it the mentioning that there was someone on the island with a higher bounty than Luffy was good portrayal and the only reason it was "higher" is because he causes civilian damage too, his bounty is still incredibly large. You don't get a large bounty from attacking townsfolk alone. Look at arlong his bounty wasn't that high and he even went around killing marines and the knew he was occupying islands and killing people.

I said at the time Luffy's bounty was 400m, Kid's was 470m and that's the truth I'm not going to assume that Luffy's bounty was going to skyrocket on it's own if he went into the new world straight away. Luffy couldn't even manage to go into the New World right away and even if he did he wasn't going to go to Punk Hazard, he wasn't going to go to Dressrosa so his bounty would probably have still been 400m.

What are you talking about Apoo and kid skirmish was PRE time skip in a bar in Sabody, Apoo uses his ability and Eustass somehow evades it and is not injured. When did anyone say Eustass over Kizaru? I surely didn't nor did I imply it but nice one it's like you did 2+2 and got 5.
Kizaru is the fastest character so far he did not even realise what was happening when his hand flew off and if it was a normal explosion then he wouldn't have blown up. The explosion was basically inside his body. Surely that's more impressive than kicking a pacifista it was also the climax and the end of the chapter

As I said Urouge was drawing blood from a pacifista with punches. punched it into a wall. Then got shot.
Drake kicked it into a wall. Bit it and it bled. Then got shot.

What exactly is it that Drake did that was so special that you can easily claim he was the strongest Supernova pre time skip? What exactly are you basing this off?

Yes it does help him on Sabody because it showed that the 3 of them were rivals from that point on and would be main focuses later on. Yes it's a dream that is also the same as Luffy and Law. It shows their rivalry. You can make it seem little if you want and make jokes about it but what exactly is Drake doing?

At least he's fighting the yonko. I like Drake and all but all he and Capone have done is become yonko lackeys what's so great about that?

If anything it's Law, Luffy and Kidd that are directly facing the yonko. And so what if he got beaten?? You're acting like that is unbelievable? That was within the 2 year gap so while Luffy was fighting elephants, Kidd was sinking yonko ships and causing chaos in her territory. If any other supernova fought it would be the same result. We've already learned that Urouge beat a yonko commander but that was recently as he was injured on Ballon Terminal. Luffy has to use G4 to fight these Yonko commanders and Luffy also was snuck in and told exactly where to go by Pudding and also allied with Peckoms. Luffy always had it easy. Kidd went straight into her territory I doubt he had all the help Luffy had.

Crucifying fodder shows that he's ruthless and actually kills people. He's not afraid to go the extra mile.

Have you read the manga? Rayleigh himself states they withstood it. He used Haki on everyone in the room except the Strawhats who were fighting the guards. Sachi, Law's crew member, stated he nearly passed out. The haki hit all of kidd's crew and all of Law's crew too.

Exactly you're the one speculating that he somehow didn't perform better than Kid. Why is it do you think that they didn't show Kidd and Law fight? Law can slash it to pieces and Kid controls metal....... It's so easy for you to say Drake performed better when all he did was bite and hit it. What do you mean indication of time it was clear by the time Law got there the fight had commenced e.g there was a body on the floor, smoke was clearing and Kidd's crew were fighting. Kid also had time to gather enough metal to cover both his hands. The second the pacifista saw Law it attacked it's obvious the fight had started before Law arrived they were already fighting and Eustass himself was not injured. He got scratched by a beam that went straight threw Drake and he reverted back to human form, Drake even had knowledge of the pacifista before hand.


Your argument is the same as saying that at Sabody Kizaru was stronger than Akainu. When we hadn't seen Akainu fight.

We didn't see what Kid could do. Yet you can so easily claim that Drake performed better and is the strongest because he did more?

Drake performed worse than Urouge so what makes Drake the best pre time skip? I may have mentioned portrayal but even your argument that Drake had better portrayal was weak lol

Drake's main attacks are from his weapons. Eustass can take them away.
Drake is fast I'll give him that.
Drake turns into a dinosaur and Eustass crushes him and shoots metal at him. We've already seen the Dino form is slow so how is he getting out of that? How is Drake winning this fight you still haven't told anyone.

Call me a worm or whatever but it doesn't make your argument any better. Maybe it's for the best that you don't post again ok?

 

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No it's not succes you ponce. At some point it just isn't worth talking to retards anymore. You're spamming the same stuff like a broken record, and you don't care if you're right or wrong.

So one last time, I'll put you in your spot, after that you can go jerk yourself off in your captain Kidd cosplay with the iron grip again.




First of all, the way you summarized this is already pretty childish, trying to make Drake's feats as small as possible and exaggerating Kidd's feats. Let's run by them one by one.

Higher bounty than Luffy.
I'll stop you right there, go to the start of this topic which you conveniently forgot and get educated by Shakky why his bounty is higher than Luffy's

Also Luffy was stuck on an island for 2 years with his bounty, and only weeks after that he got a 500M bounty surpassing Kidd. Somehow you couldn't resist to make this post time skip again

Evaded Apoo's attack

This was not even a serious fight but a skirmish, besides it was post timeskip. Kizaru only got hit because he is a logia and doesn't care and to demonstrate Apoo's powers in part 1. Same goes for Urouge's form and Drake's T-Rex. Unless you're saying that Kidd is better than Kizaru too, but if that is the case they should take away your internet in the mental hospital.

We've already seen he's a rival to Luffy and Law
Means shit, cool thing for the future isn't going to help him on sabaody

He has also stated that he wants to find One Piece this alone makes him a rival to Luffy.
Cool, he has dreams. Maybe in one of them he can beat Drake. Today we learned he got his ass kicked on Big Mom's island because of that. So Kidd is at least the character that got his ass handed to him by multiple yonkou.

Crucified other pirates in the new world
Crucifying fodder, always good to raise that fake bounty some more

He withstood Rayleigh's conquerors haki
He withstood shit, Rayleigh analyzed the situation before using his haki and only targeted the guards. Or do Brook and Bepo have the same iron will as Kidd ?

Was fighting a pacifista and wasn't shown to be injured by the time Law got there.


Without any indication of time or what happened this is pure speculation, but ok I guess not getting hit is just as impressive as sending one flying through a wall with a kick.

Scratched by a pacifista.

How is this a feat ?



Also when you replied on me last time and tried to lecture me on portrayal you clearly missed the sarcasm. Maybe the God Luffy and Pope Law wasn't enough to hint that. But you're the one talking about portrayal. I'm the one talking feats, let's make that clear. So the one thing I agree on with you is that portrayal doesn't win you fights.

The world portrays Buggy as a savior and fear him as a sSichibukai, bur his feats are shit
Dressrosa portrays Usopp as god, but his feats don't make him one
Kidd standing next to Law and Luffy portrays him as a rival, but that doesn't mean he is stronger than Drake on Sabaody. Who has run through the military ranks, is older, is smarter, and has shown better feats pre-skip.

So based of all that there is only one conclusion, you're indeed a worm, you should've just pissed off, and the insult wasn't random because what you typed really was a new level of stupid.

This was my last post, have fun *******.

Actually, Rayleigh didn't exclude the other crews from his blast of Haoshoku.

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I only came here because you were using non canon feats which you seem to be ignoring now how convenient I've asked you many times to show us the panel you have of Zoro resisting getting his swords taken? You still haven't shown or admitted you were wrong about this. It was non cannom. Also jerk off in cosplay? So if someone doesn't agree with you and has the opposite argument they are jerking off to the character? And you say you say my arguments and posts are childish lol.... stay salty bro

I never said having a higher bounty meant anything but seeing as you love portrayal so much I thought I'd mention it the mentioning that there was someone on the island with a higher bounty than Luffy was good portrayal and the only reason it was "higher" is because he causes civilian damage too, his bounty is still incredibly large. You don't get a large bounty from attacking townsfolk alone. Look at arlong his bounty wasn't that high and he even went around killing marines and the knew he was occupying islands and killing people.

I said at the time Luffy's bounty was 400m, Kid's was 470m and that's the truth I'm not going to assume that Luffy's bounty was going to skyrocket on it's own if he went into the new world straight away. Luffy couldn't even manage to go into the New World right away and even if he did he wasn't going to go to Punk Hazard, he wasn't going to go to Dressrosa so his bounty would probably have still been 400m.

What are you talking about Apoo and kid skirmish was PRE time skip in a bar in Sabody, Apoo uses his ability and Eustass somehow evades it and is not injured. When did anyone say Eustass over Kizaru? I surely didn't nor did I imply it but nice one it's like you did 2+2 and got 5.
Kizaru is the fastest character so far he did not even realise what was happening when his hand flew off and if it was a normal explosion then he wouldn't have blown up. The explosion was basically inside his body. Surely that's more impressive than kicking a pacifista it was also the climax and the end of the chapter

As I said Urouge was drawing blood from a pacifista with punches. punched it into a wall. Then got shot.
Drake kicked it into a wall. Bit it and it bled. Then got shot.

What exactly is it that Drake did that was so special that you can easily claim he was the strongest Supernova pre time skip? What exactly are you basing this off?

Yes it does help him on Sabody because it showed that the 3 of them were rivals from that point on and would be main focuses later on. Yes it's a dream that is also the same as Luffy and Law. It shows their rivalry. You can make it seem little if you want and make jokes about it but what exactly is Drake doing?

At least he's fighting the yonko. I like Drake and all but all he and Capone have done is become yonko lackeys what's so great about that?

If anything it's Law, Luffy and Kidd that are directly facing the yonko. And so what if he got beaten?? You're acting like that is unbelievable? That was within the 2 year gap so while Luffy was fighting elephants, Kidd was sinking yonko ships and causing chaos in her territory. If any other supernova fought it would be the same result. We've already learned that Urouge beat a yonko commander but that was recently as he was injured on Ballon Terminal. Luffy has to use G4 to fight these Yonko commanders and Luffy also was snuck in and told exactly where to go by Pudding and also allied with Peckoms. Luffy always had it easy. Kidd went straight into her territory I doubt he had all the help Luffy had.

Crucifying fodder shows that he's ruthless and actually kills people. He's not afraid to go the extra mile.

Have you read the manga? Rayleigh himself states they withstood it. He used Haki on everyone in the room except the Strawhats who were fighting the guards. Sachi, Law's crew member, stated he nearly passed out. The haki hit all of kidd's crew and all of Law's crew too.

Exactly you're the one speculating that he somehow didn't perform better than Kid. Why is it do you think that they didn't show Kidd and Law fight? Law can slash it to pieces and Kid controls metal....... It's so easy for you to say Drake performed better when all he did was bite and hit it. What do you mean indication of time it was clear by the time Law got there the fight had commenced e.g there was a body on the floor, smoke was clearing and Kidd's crew were fighting. Kid also had time to gather enough metal to cover both his hands. The second the pacifista saw Law it attacked it's obvious the fight had started before Law arrived they were already fighting and Eustass himself was not injured. He got scratched by a beam that went straight threw Drake and he reverted back to human form, Drake even had knowledge of the pacifista before hand.


Your argument is the same as saying that at Sabody Kizaru was stronger than Akainu. When we hadn't seen Akainu fight.

We didn't see what Kid could do. Yet you can so easily claim that Drake performed better and is the strongest because he did more?

Drake performed worse than Urouge so what makes Drake the best pre time skip? I may have mentioned portrayal but even your argument that Drake had better portrayal was weak lol

Drake's main attacks are from his weapons. Eustass can take them away.
Drake is fast I'll give him that.
Drake turns into a dinosaur and Eustass crushes him and shoots metal at him. We've already seen the Dino form is slow so how is he getting out of that? How is Drake winning this fight you still haven't told anyone.

Call me a worm or whatever but it doesn't make your argument any better. Maybe it's for the best that you don't post again ok?

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After this chapter, it feels Drake's portrayal took more of a hit than anything. Until further explanation he was to Kaidou what Capone was to Big Mom.

 

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