Genetic descents of the Rikudou naturally gain this powers

[Rikudou Tobi]

Genetic descents of the Rikudou naturally gain this powers...
The power to absorb all forms of chakra.

Surprise that I didn't see it at first, but the Boruto movie helped confirmed this for me.
One we know that Ginkaku and Kinkaku are descendant of the Sage of Six path, so you wonder why are these guys of his lineage yet show no special six path abilities like others who had them?
Turns out they do. They have the ability to absorb chakra through consumption.

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The only other person we know that absorbs chakra too but consumption is none other than Momoshiki.

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And if you're still doubting. Look at Madara, he consumed Hashirama's tissues and he still didn't gain any of Hashirama's mokuton and healing powers.

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But he started absorbing once he transplanted Hashirama's chakra (six path power)...

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But once a Rikudou relative gains the rinnegan, they take their absorption ability to a whole new level beyond anyone else.
>Nagato creates a huge bubble that absorbs jutsus in contact/absorbs chakra on physical contact.
>Momoshiki consumes chakra along with their power/Can absorb biju chakra inside a jinchuuriki
>Sasuke can absorb biju chakra inside jinchuuriki as well/absorb chakra on physical contact

 

[Holy God]

Surprise that I didn't see it at first, but the Boruto movie helped confirmed this for me.
One we know that Ginkaku and Kinkaku are descendant of the Sage of Six path, so you wonder why are these guys of his lineage yet show no special six path abilities like others who had them?
Turns out they do. They have the ability to absorb chakra through consumption.

That's not a special ability. It is literally stated that they were the only ones to even attempt it.

And if you're still doubting. Look at Madara, he consumed Hashirama's tissues and he still didn't gain any of Hashirama's mokuton and healing powers.

He didn't digest Hashirama's tissues nor did he eat even close to the amount that the Gold and Silver Brothers did.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

That's not a special ability. It is literally stated that they were the only ones to even attempt it.

Someone else attempted it and died. If you actually read the whole scan.

He didn't digest Hashirama's tissues nor did he eat even close to the amount that the Gold and Silver Brothers did.

He threw up hashirama's tissue meaning he actually consumed it. The quantity is irrelevant considering that when he transplanted it he gained the rinnegan.

 

[Holy God]

Someone else attempted it and died. If you actually read the whole scan.

Ah, I didn't see that. It is then possible that descendants have the ability, but the situation for the dead person is different than the brothers.

He threw up hashirama's tissue meaning he actually consumed it. The quantity is irrelevant considering that when he transplanted it he gained the rinnegan.

Consumption does not equate to digestion. If you eat food you don't utilize its calories until it is digested. The quantity is completely relevant because the experimentation Madara did changed all of his cells, which is why he could replace his right arm with Zetsu's instantly. Madara's cells learned to produce a mixed chakra, unlike mere transplantation where the chakra of the foreign body is completely separate from the host's.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Ah, I didn't see that. It is then possible that descendants have the ability, but the situation for the dead person is different than the brothers.

Yeah that was the whole point. He wasn't rikudou descent so he doesn't have the power to absorb biju power for themselves like the gold and silver brothers.

Consumption does not equate to digestion. If you eat food you don't utilize its calories until it is digested. The quantity is completely relevant because the experimentation Madara did changed all of his cells, which is why he could replace his right arm with Zetsu's instantly. Madara's cells learned to produce a mixed chakra, unlike mere transplantation where the chakra of the foreign body is completely separate from the host's.

You can't assume the internal actions of Madara considering that the tissue was in his body for a long time before coming back to life. He never transplanted any zetsu arm when he was in the cave and zetsu is not hashirama clone either, they're just people in the infinte tsukuyomi. The quantity doesn't matter because that small piece of tissue gave Madara rikudou chakra to awaken the rinnegan.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Anybody can asborb chakra from eating.
Food Pills
Gold and Silver Bro
Naruto Toad Oil
Tsunade Byakugou
In the Chakra is in ever cell of your body, food gets converted into energy, you are what you eat,
Im sure it was a dramatic example of the tranformation technique

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Anybody can asborb chakra from eating.
Food Pills
Gold and Silver Bro
Naruto Toad Oil
Tsunade Byakugou
In the Chakra is in ever cell of your body, food gets converted into energy, you are what you eat,
Im sure it was a dramatic example of the tranformation technique

The third Raikage just said somebody tried to eat the 8 tails chakra and he died. So no, you really can't do that. The Gold and Silver bros. not only absorbed a biju chakra but they gained the power of the kyuubi just by eating it.
Usually when you absorb people's chakra, you don't gain their power unless you are related to the sage of six paths.

 

[Holy God]

You can't assume the internal actions of Madara considering that the tissue was in his body for a long time before coming back to life. He never transplanted any zetsu arm when he was in the cave and zetsu is not hashirama clone either, they're just people in the infinte tsukuyomi. The quantity doesn't matter because that small piece of tissue gave Madara rikudou chakra to awaken the rinnegan.

The tissue was intact, so I can only assume he didn't digest it. Madara had replaced his arm with Zetsu's before using Limbo on the Tailed Beasts, and they were infused with Hashirama's DNA. Hashirama's tissue itself was not what gave Madara chakra, but the combination of his and Hashirama's DNA allowed all of his chakra to change. Transplantation itself doesn't change chakra, just like Kakashi doesn't have Uchiha chakra.

 

[Char Aznable]

Madara used the bit of tissue from Hashirama to heal his wounds and create white zetsus. It's how he awoke the rinnegan at an old age.

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[Rikudou Tobi]

The tissue was intact, so I can only assume he didn't digest it. Madara had replaced his arm with Zetsu's before using Limbo on the Tailed Beasts, and they were infused with Hashirama's DNA. Hashirama's tissue itself was not what gave Madara chakra, but the combination of his and Hashirama's DNA allowed all of his chakra to change. Transplantation itself doesn't change chakra, just like Kakashi doesn't have Uchiha chakra.

Madara gaining an arm to replace his has nothing to with him being able to absorb chakra. And those white zetsu cannot transfer hashirmama power like that. Nobody gained wood release by placing zetsu pieces on them but that's another topic for another day.

Madara transplanting Hashirama's tissue did give him rikudou chakra because he gained hashirama's chakra through transplant, he couldn't gain chakra through consumption like the gold and silver brothers. Danzo, Tobi, and many others could not gain hashirama's chakra without transplant.

 

[Holy God]

Madara gaining an arm to replace his has nothing to with him being able to absorb chakra. And those white zetsu cannot transfer hashirmama power like that. Nobody gained wood release by placing zetsu pieces on them but that's another topic for another day.

Madara transplanting Hashirama's tissue did give him rikudou chakra because he gained hashirama's chakra through transplant, he couldn't gain chakra through consumption like the gold and silver brothers. Danzo, Tobi, and many others could not gain hashirama's chakra without transplant.

You're not getting the difference between mere transplantation and what Madara/Kabuto did. In transplantation, the chakra from the foreign body will always be separate from the hosts', just like Danzo only had Shisui's chakra in his Sharingan. Madara was able to merge Hashirama's DNA, thus making all of his regular cells change to create a mixture between their chakra. All of Madara's chakra was changed to become a hybrid. It's not like the small amount of chakra just mixed with Madara's own, because chakra does not mix like that.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

You're not getting the difference between mere transplantation and what Madara/Kabuto did. In transplantation, the chakra from the foreign body will always be separate from the hosts', just like Danzo only had Shisui's chakra in his Sharingan. Madara was able to merge Hashirama's DNA, thus making all of his regular cells change to create a mixture between their chakra. All of Madara's chakra was changed to become a hybrid. It's not like the small amount of chakra just mixed with Madara's own, because chakra does not mix like that.

Manga says that the small portion of chakra merged with Madara after the transplant.

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You need to know that Madara mixed that chakra to gain the rinnegan, there was a period when he didn't like Danzo and he still had his mangekyo sharingan. Which is here: "nothing happened at first."

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But what does this have to do with the gold and silver brothers.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Quick question about something I noticed, wasn't madara actually able to use mokuton after eating and... "Integrating?" That piece of hashi that he bit off?

 

[patrickscott]

Quick question about something I noticed, wasn't madara actually able to use mokuton after eating and... "Integrating?" That piece of hashi that he bit off?

It was a kekkai Genkai from what I understand so, ya that's pretty much how blood and dna works.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

It was a kekkai Genkai from what I understand so, ya that's pretty much how blood and dna works.

Pff yea, I didn't even open the spoiler, that's my bad lol

 

[To Whatever]

Pff yea, I didn't even open the spoiler, that's my bad lol

I made the same mistake

 

[Holy God]

Manga says that the small portion of chakra merged with Madara after the transplant.

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Yes, their chakra merged through their genetics merging. Chakra does not merge on it's own, just like nobody from the Shinobi Alliance can still access Kurama's chakra and how people with transplanted eyes never gain their chakra.

You need to know that Madara mixed that chakra to gain the rinnegan, there was a period when he didn't like Danzo and he still had his mangekyo sharingan. Which is here: "nothing happened at first."

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I'm aware, but I'm not sure how that has anything to do with the above.

But what does this have to do with the gold and silver brothers.

It has nothing to do with the theory now, but I still wonder why you even consider the Gold and Silver Brothers to be a distant relative to Hagoromo but not Madara who is of a more direct lineage.

 

[To Whatever]

Yes, their chakra merged through their genetics merging. Chakra does not merge on it's own, just like nobody from the Shinobi Alliance can still access Kurama's chakra and how people with transplanted eyes never gain their chakra.


I'm aware, but I'm not sure how that has anything to do with the above.



It has nothing to do with the theory now, but I still wonder why you even consider the Gold and Silver Brothers to be a distant relative to Hagoromo but not Madara who is of a more direct lineage.

Nice logic, cant argue with this

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Quick question about something I noticed, wasn't madara actually able to use mokuton after eating and... "Integrating?" That piece of hashi that he bit off?

He needs Hashirama's chakra to use it. But he's was not like Gin&Kin who can eat people's tissue and integrate with their powers like they did the kyuubi (Six path descent). Madara would only be able to absorb people's power once he mixes asura's chakra to gain hagoromoo.

 

[Dizzldot]

It was a kekkai Genkai from what I understand so, ya that's pretty much how blood and dna works.

I don't think he got wood style after that I think what allowed him to use it was Kabuto integrating it because as and edo tensei he said he wanted to check something and then used it