Minato & Kakashi vs Gai & Ei

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Location - Sasuke vs Deidara
Distance - 50m
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Conditions - Everyone is healthy, Kakashi is war arc
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Team two wins because nothing has been shown to get through Ei's armor except his own attack. Gai and Ei are too fast to get hit by Kamui. I'll explain myself further if you ask but i have team two Mid Diff, only because it will be extremely hard to take out Minato, Kakashi gets taken out first quite easily.
 
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Kakashi is about as good as toast in this match. He can't land Kamui on these two top tier speedsters, and his only method of avoiding them is easily due to their destructive nature. Leaving Minato to fend against both Ay and Gai; and even FTG is not going to cut it between V2 Ay Shunshin and 7G Gai's striking speed. As well as Hirudora's AoE covering the battlefield, which Minato can't simply avoid.

Team two take it medium-high difficulty.
 

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Kakashi is about as good as toast in this match. He can't land Kamui on these two top tier speedsters, and his only method of avoiding them is easily due to their destructive nature. Leaving Minato to fend against both Ay and Gai; and even FTG is not going to cut it between V2 Ay Shunshin and 7G Gai's striking speed. As well as Hirudora's AoE covering the battlefield, which Minato can't simply avoid.

Team two take it medium-high difficulty.

If Minato tags Ay like he easily could of in canon, he can right into a Kamui, ending him instantly. His only means of combat is close quarters engagement, so Minato is bound to tag him eventually. Minato can also tag Kakashi and teleport him if he's in danger, amongst their clones for confusion, allowing for an opening. Hirodura can get redirected by S/T barrier as well, unless he uses it in short range.
 

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If Minato tags Ay like he easily could of in canon, he can right into a Kamui, ending him instantly. His only means of combat is close quarters engagement, so Minato is bound to tag him eventually. Minato can also tag Kakashi and teleport him if he's in danger, amongst their clones for confusion, allowing for an opening. Hirodura can get redirected by S/T barrier as well, unless he uses it in short range.

How do you suppose that working with Gai around? Even for a second, Kakashi is never getting the chance to sit idly to Kamui anyone. The moment he does that, is the moment he gets plowed. The same applies with Minato if he attempts to redirect Hirudora with S/T. With how quickly both 7G Gai and V2 Ay can shunshin or run up on any tag, the teleporting around game isn't going to suffice. Hirudora to the ground eliminates that strategy anyways.
 

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How do you suppose that working with Gai around? Even for a second, Kakashi is never getting the chance to sit idly to Kamui anyone. The moment he does that, is the moment he gets plowed. The same applies with Minato if he attempts to redirect Hirudora with S/T. With how quickly both 7G Gai and V2 Ay can shunshin or run up on any tag, the teleporting around game isn't going to suffice. Hirudora to the ground eliminates that strategy anyways.


both kakashi and minato are clone users -_-
 

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How do you suppose that working with Gai around? Even for a second, Kakashi is never getting the chance to sit idly to Kamui anyone. The moment he does that, is the moment he gets plowed. The same applies with Minato if he attempts to redirect Hirudora with S/T. With how quickly both 7G Gai and V2 Ay can shunshin or run up on any tag, the teleporting around game isn't going to suffice. Hirudora to the ground eliminates that strategy anyways.

Either through the use of clones, or Minato teleporting him to safety. Maybe even both. Minato can easily look after Kakashi while he tags Ay, as his top speed becomes of little trouble to Minato who after seeing it only once, can react to indicatively easily based on his facial expression [ ]. I also don't believe Ay can maintain this speed for too long, as his chakra rises to tailed beast levels [ ] in order to achieve V2 speed. Ay has never been shown to maintain this speed for extensive periods of time, and it's pretty obvious he can't. He'd have to revert back to V1 as he did repeatedly with Madara allowing for a swift capitalisation. It's easy to track tags when Minato had them spread in an enclosed area, but this won't be the case when fighting two top tier speedsters. They'd be spread out over a much greater distance.
 

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Guy and Ay win

-- Kakashi is non factor. He gets blitzed by either of the two, and none of his attacks have even the slightest chance of landing.

-- minato isn't saving Kakashi this time, not when he has to worry about the other one blitzing his head off, and he certainly can't take them out. As Ay and Guy employ the same strategy of Ay by pressuring minato to teleport after their strike and go full blitz at his next location. Guy can do this even easier since he managed to tag even Jin Madara
 

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Kakashi w/ Minato's clone as support is enough to evade Ay and Gai's attacks once Minato spreads his markings around. Hirudora is useless here due to S/T Barrier and Kamui. If it's fired S/T Barrier takes care of it, if Gai tries to blow it up not only will him and Ay get caught in the crossfire, but Kakashi can just warp him and Minato away using Kamui and then warp back after the impact.

So Ay and Gai basically have to deal with 2 Minato's, and a Kakashi w/ support from a clone that lets him dodge their attacks. Match is probably going to turn towards the s/t duo's favor when Minato gets Ay into the same position he had him in canon, Gai won't be able to save him because he'll have another Minato (clone or original, doesn't really matter) to deal with and Kakashi will have Kamui ready to snipe him if he dashes and stops to try and save Ay from Minato's onslaught. Either that or Gai's 7G falls due to stamina (this might take a while though, but Gai is definitely using more energy to use the 7G than Minato is using to teleport) and he reverts to 6G and gets raped by Hiraishin or Kamui.

S/T Duo win one way or another.

Guy and Ay win

-- Kakashi is non factor. He gets blitzed by either of the two, and none of his attacks have even the slightest chance of landing.

-- minato isn't saving Kakashi this time, not when he has to worry about the other one blitzing his head off, and he certainly can't take them out. As Ay and Guy employ the same strategy of Ay by pressuring minato to teleport after their strike and go full blitz at his next location. Guy can do this even easier since he managed to tag even Jin Madara

Minato has clones, and 50m distance to start off with. A clone and a marking on Kakashi while the original spreads Kunai across the area like he did against Ay means that Kakashi isn't going to get blitzed nor does Minato himself fall to a blitz any time soon. The bold strategy doesn't even work considering the area here is much larger than it was against Ay.

Team two wins because nothing has been shown to get through Ei's armor except his own attack. Gai and Ei are too fast to get hit by Kamui. I'll explain myself further if you ask but i have team two Mid Diff, only because it will be extremely hard to take out Minato, Kakashi gets taken out first quite easily.

Lmao you have the wrong Ay here.
 

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Kakashi is about as good as toast in this match. He can't land Kamui on these two top tier speedsters, and his only method of avoiding them is easily due to their destructive nature. Leaving Minato to fend against both Ay and Gai; and even FTG is not going to cut it between V2 Ay Shunshin and 7G Gai's striking speed. As well as Hirudora's AoE covering the battlefield, which Minato can't simply avoid.

Team two take it medium-high difficulty.

nice, so minato isn't as invulnerable as people pretend him to be.
 

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Either through the use of clones, or Minato teleporting him to safety. Maybe even both. Minato can easily look after Kakashi while he tags Ay, as his top speed becomes of little trouble to Minato who after seeing it only once, can react to indicatively easily based on his facial expression [ ]. I also don't believe Ay can maintain this speed for too long, as his chakra rises to tailed beast levels [ ] in order to achieve V2 speed. Ay has never been shown to maintain this speed for extensive periods of time, and it's pretty obvious he can't. He'd have to revert back to V1 as he did repeatedly with Madara allowing for a swift capitalisation. It's easy to track tags when Minato had them spread in an enclosed area, but this won't be the case when fighting two top tier speedsters. They'd be spread out over a much greater distance.

Minato will have an extremely tough time tagging Ay if both him and Gai do collaborated attacks. Clones make things more tricky, but keep in mind they're slower with Hiraishin [ ] and speed is pivotal in this match. However, if Ay can't keep up his V2 Shunshin speed then I have to concede. Gai can't do everything here, and V1 Ay isn't going to cut it.
 

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Minato will have an extremely tough time tagging Ay if both him and Gai do collaborated attacks. Clones make things more tricky, but keep in mind they're slower with Hiraishin [ ] and speed is pivotal in this match. However, if Ay can't keep up his V2 Shunshin speed then I have to concede. Gai can't do everything here, and V1 Ay isn't going to cut it.

If they're both coming for Minato, then one of them is getting blasted by Kamui. When Ay attacks his target he commits leaving himself open [ ]-[ ] for a brief moment. I just feel as if Minato and Kakashi have too many combinations here. And yeah, he can't maintain that speed for extensive periods of time as he has to muster up Bijuu like levels of chakra in order to execute it.
 

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If they're both coming for Minato, then one of them is getting blasted by Kamui. When Ay attacks his target he commits leaving himself open [ ]-[ ] for a brief moment. I just feel as if Minato and Kakashi have too many combinations here. And yeah, he can't maintain that speed for extensive periods of time as he has to muster up Bijuu like levels of chakra in order to execute it.

Not necessarily, Kakashi can't track all their movements. Even if he slightly could, he surely can't physically follow them (adjust his neck and body in their direction) in time to use Kamui. I think that Ay slows down as he strikes. Makes no sense that he can strike that fast while moving at top speed, when and managed to intercept it. But yeah, I change my mind, Kakashi and Minato win it. Ay is a scrub (sorry EZQ).
 

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Not necessarily, Kakashi can't track all their movements. Even if he slightly could, he surely can't physically follow them (adjust his neck and body in their direction) in time to use Kamui. I think that Ay slows down as he strikes. Makes no sense that he can strike that fast while moving at top speed, when and managed to intercept it. But yeah, I change my mind, Kakashi and Minato win it. Ay is a scrub (sorry EZQ).

He doesn't have to track Ay's speed at all. If Minato's the target, then he already knows where to look. The minute he stops or slows down, he gets taken out

Since you change your mind, I'll stop here.
 

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Well. Team one has many ways to win.
 

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Not necessarily, Kakashi can't track all their movements. Even if he slightly could, he surely can't physically follow them (adjust his neck and body in their direction) in time to use Kamui. I think that Ay slows down as he strikes. Makes no sense that he can strike that fast while moving at top speed, when and managed to intercept it. But yeah, I change my mind, Kakashi and Minato win it. Ay is a scrub (sorry EZQ).

lmaoo. I don't like Ay that much. I just tought he was badass in this avatar.
 
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