Alt-Right vs SJWs

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I didn't bother to watch the video or click the links but I read the whole post.

What I took from this is that East Asians are smartest, white people are not far behind, and blacks are kind of far behind, with height and myopia being indicators of IQ.

If this is the case, I think the left probably would fear this because of people trying to sterilize the dull, exterminating groups, etc., or do you think it's just because the left doesn't want to cut back welfare programs?

IMO, I don't really think the poor should be rewarded for having kids in the first place, as I do know people on welfare who do nothing but raise like 4-5 kids. I'm not sure where the Muslim population comes into this IQ thing though since you didn't really mention studies of height, myopia, or IQ. I understand the whole Muslims on welfare get a lot of kids and the whole Islam is a threat to the west thing though.

If you are the Alt-right, then you are one of the good people though, always happy to discuss your opinion even though it's against the mainstream. It's people like Wabbit who I think are cancer though, I know his response was a joke but like I said the alt-right is where the line between shitposting and beliefs blur.
That is the correct ordering - a more precise ordering goes like this:

1. Ashkenazi Jews who have an average score of about 110 on IQ tests

2. East Asians who score around 106 on average

3. Whites whose score is defined as 100

4. Middle-Eastern populations score in the high 80s

5. Black Africans score around 70 in Africa (African-Americans are a different population - they have some White admixture).

Myopia is intrinsically correlated with IQ and though the correlation isn't even all that high, the evidence suggests that some (but not all) of the genes for the two traits overlap (some of the genes responsible for myopia also raise IQ) and the rates of myopia follow the IQ hierarchy more or less exactly.

Height is slightly correlated with IQ in males but the correlation is extrinsic which means that the genes for the two traits are completely different (height genes and IQ genes are separate things) hence why East Asians and Jews tend to be shorter than Blacks despite the IQ gap.

These are actually only two physical variables I took from Jensen for brevity and there are many, many more (several dozens, in fact). Another example is physical maturation rate (related to how quickly you reach puberty) which Shockley mentioned - East Asians mature slowest and Blacks fastest - and the slower the maturation rate, the higher the IQ.

Ashkenazi Jews are an anomaly and there is a compelling theory (by Cochran et al) that suggests that their high-IQ is the result of natural selection only in the past 1000 years or so.

As for the motivations of the left, I think you are on the right track. The idea that humans are genetically unequal is a deeply disturbing one - honestly I wish it weren't true - but my wishing the world to be a certain way will not make it so.
 

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Throw that term around as much as you like, it doesn't land an impact or mean anything to anyone other than people winding themselves up with a fictional image of everything they don't like.
It would impact an SJW. An SJW would have went to court to sue that the posts were oppressing him/her and are causing weigh loss and sleep loss etc
 

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Typical SJW reply when they are presented with truth. Call others Nazis or racists.

tbh right would not come into mainstream without SJWs in the first place. We could have had nice world without even hearing about right or left and then jihad, SJWs and refugee crisis happened. You could hate libtards and the left without being a Nazi white American or europoor. Right wing is not isolated to group of people or country. It is stupid that Europeans and Americans glorify Nazis when their ancestor died to ward them off and Nazis ****ed up Europe and probably killed more white ppl than Jews they hate. It cant be helped nazi racists are the top memesters and they have become face of alt right.
First of all, you misunderstood, second of all, I was not presented the truth at all from your post since all you did was say I was a cuck.

See, I never claimed that the Alt-right only consists of Nazi. What I did say is that it does have Nazis, and because since so many people in the alt-right just shitpost, it's hard to distinguish what many actually think. But I think I didn't generalize fairly, I do remember a leader in Black Lives Matter Canada (I have no idea why it exists) tweeting that she wants God to make sure she doesn't kill all white people, so it does get extreme on both sides of the spectrum.

It would impact an SJW. An SJW would have went to court to sue that the posts were oppressing him/her and are causing weigh loss and sleep loss etc
Only two genders? Check your privilege next time or I'll sue for mind rape.
 
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First of all, you misunderstood, second of all, I was not presented the truth at all from your post since all you did was say I was a cuck.
Truth is that you are either a cuck or muslim

See, I never claimed that the Alt-right only consists of Nazi. What I did say is that it does have Nazis, and because since so many people in the alt-right just shitpost, it's hard to distinguish what many actually think. But I think I didn't generalize fairly, I do remember a leader in Black Lives Matter Canada (I have no idea why it exists) tweeting that she wants God to make sure she doesn't kill all white people, so it does get extreme on both sides of the spectrum.


Only two genders? Check your privilege next time or I'll sue for mind rape.
Did you even read my posts. I said it cant be helped those racist Nazis are the face of the alt right. They are the one who get all the attention from media.
 

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Truth is that you are either a cuck or muslim


Did you even read my posts. I said it cant be helped those racist Nazis are the face of the alt right. They are the one who get all the attention from media.
And you're a retard for proving my point, thank you very much though. And yeah, I got that point which is why I added it wasn't fair and that both sides have extremes, lmao!

But I did learn something today, Alt-right is not the term for these annoying ****s, the term is Storm ***, and you happen to be one, lol. Keep parroting bs you learn from edgy internet memes, though.
 

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I gave up on either side due to all of the crazy stuff from both so I just block them out, sorry I know everyone want people to join a side but I really don't see a reason to so I just do what I need to so I can get through my day and live to the next. I just don't want that kind of constant stress and extra drama in my life of constantly trying to fight an opposing side because they say something or are having a debate. I just want to go with my day of a regular boring existence. sorry everyone that is just how I want to do things.
 

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I gave up on either side due to all of the crazy stuff from both so I just block them out, sorry I know everyone want people to join a side but I really don't see a reason to so I just do what I need to so I can get through my day and live to the next. I just don't want that kind of constant stress and extra drama in my life of constantly trying to fight an opposing side because they say something or are having a debate. I just want to go with my day of a regular boring existence. sorry everyone that is just how I want to do things.
Respect for that.
 

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And you're a retard for proving my point, thank you very much though. And yeah, I got that point which is why I added it wasn't fair and that both sides have extremes, lmao!

But I did learn something today, Alt-right is not the term for these annoying ****s, the term is Storm ***, and you happen to be one, lol. Keep parroting bs you learn from edgy internet memes, though.
You are a delusional pleb who misinterprets stuff and feel superior that you are holding middle ground. [Same kind of ppl can be found on ND who say hey I am intelligent and morally superior because I dislike both Naruto and Sasuke fans, they suck.] First you call me a nazi, then you call me a nazi using other word.
 
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You are a delusional pleb who misinterprets stuff and feel superior that you are holding middle ground. [Same kind of ppl can be found on ND who say hey I am intelligent and morally superior because I dislike both Naruto and Sasuke fans, they suck.] First you call me a nazi, then you call me a nazi using other word.
I didn't call you a nazi once, moron. I said the alt-right consists of Nazis too, and this is the 2nd time I'm repeating that to you. The irony when you say I misinterpret. I called you a storm f*g because you just kept claiming I was a cuck, which is distinct of storm f*gs to do.
And I don't think I'm superior to you for your side of the poltical spectrum. I really do think Narushima is smarter than me and he's on the same side as you, so your point is bull.

A nazi or nazi sympathizer is someone who practically worships Hitler or supports his fascist ideology and I have no reason to think you do that so why would I call you one?
 
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I gave up on either side due to all of the crazy stuff from both so I just block them out, sorry I know everyone want people to join a side but I really don't see a reason to so I just do what I need to so I can get through my day and live to the next. I just don't want that kind of constant stress and extra drama in my life of constantly trying to fight an opposing side because they say something or are having a debate. I just want to go with my day of a regular boring existence. sorry everyone that is just how I want to do things.
This. Right. Here.

Same thing with me. I only got tired reading between their debates. It only wastes my time and gives me an unnecessary headache.
 
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I didn't call you a nazi once, moron.
I said the alt-right consists of Nazis too, and this is the 2nd time I'm repeating that to you. The irony when you say I misinterpret. I called you a storm f*g because you just kept claiming I was a cuck, which is distinct of storm f*gs to do.
10/10 logic. SJWs are easy to identify generally trying to ban things like free speech, constant accusations of rape, etc. The Alt-right is people joking about Nazis, and actually Nazis at times. If it wasn't for the fact you guys go from a scale of logical to toxic, your unfunny attempts at irony or use of memes in politics, people would probably take you guys more seriously.
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You called me nazi in teh first reply then you said you are not correctly generalizing and then you called me storm*** which basically means neonazi. You basically kept calling me a nazi while I called you a cuck, the thing is i would not have called you a cuck if have nt come calling about right is worse like a blanket sjw.

And I don't think I'm superior to you for your side of the poltical spectrum. I really do think Narushima is smarter than me and he's on the same side as you, so your point is bull.
The whole point of this thread is to circlejerk and call others trash for others, for you to pass on that SJWs are harmless and alt right is the problem when right would have come in mainstream without SJWs to validate their concerns.If you are not SJW then you are probably a refugee who profits from them.
 

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You called me nazi in teh first reply then you said you are not correctly generalizing and then you called me storm*** which basically means neonazi. You basically kept calling me a nazi while I called you a cuck, the thing is i would not have called you a cuck if have nt come calling about right is worse like a blanket sjw.


The whole point of this thread is to circlejerk and call others trash for others, for you to pass on that SJWs are harmless and alt right is the problem when right would have come in mainstream without SJWs to validate their concerns.If you are not SJW then you are probably a refugee who profits from them.
Actual nazis AT TIMES. YOU GUYS as in the Alt-Right. I didn't call you a nazi. Okay, I think my understanding of storm ***s might be wrong. I thought it was a dude who calls everyone a cuck, but apparently to you, it's a nazi. If so, my bad. The first time I did not call you a nazi and that's just your reading comprehension that's to blame. The second time, when I called you a storm f*g, if that means Nazi, again, my bad.

My point was to see which one of the groups was worse and then you came along validating my post by doing exactly what I said makes the alt-right look bad. The point of my thread was to see others' opinions on this. I didn't circle jerk anyone. I took the two other seemingly alt-righters opinions into account as well. And again, I already conceded and said to you SJWs are dangerous and I'm being unfair.

If I'm not an SJW then I'm a refugee who profits from them? What kind of black and white view of the world do you have? I'm sorry to say but the world isn't that simple. I was born in the states, my parents are hard working, law-abiding citizens. We're not some welfare leeches. My god, this is exactly what I was talking about. But I know, all this means to you is that I'm an SJW with your black and white logic. I'm not, I think feminism in the first world is just women trying to feel special that they're fighting for a cause. I think BLM race baits, and I believe a country should do what's in their best interest first, if national security is one of those, fine by me. But I also think people need to leave the ME the f*ck alone.
 
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I honestly don't know what either mean :lol
Same here. lol

That is the correct ordering - a more precise ordering goes like this:

1. Ashkenazi Jews who have an average score of about 110 on IQ tests

2. East Asians who score around 106 on average

3. Whites whose score is defined as 100

4. Middle-Eastern populations score in the high 80s

5. Black Africans score around 70 in Africa (African-Americans are a different population - they have some White admixture).

Myopia is intrinsically correlated with IQ and though the correlation isn't even all that high, the evidence suggests that some (but not all) of the genes for the two traits overlap (some of the genes responsible for myopia also raise IQ) and the rates of myopia follow the IQ hierarchy more or less exactly.

Height is slightly correlated with IQ in males but the correlation is extrinsic which means that the genes for the two traits are completely different (height genes and IQ genes are separate things) hence why East Asians and Jews tend to be shorter than Blacks despite the IQ gap.

These are actually only two physical variables I took from Jensen for brevity and there are many, many more (several dozens, in fact). Another example is physical maturation rate (related to how quickly you reach puberty) which Shockley mentioned - East Asians mature slowest and Blacks fastest - and the slower the maturation rate, the higher the IQ.

Ashkenazi Jews are an anomaly and there is a compelling theory (by Cochran et al) that suggests that their high-IQ is the result of natural selection only in the past 1000 years or so.

As for the motivations of the left, I think you are on the right track. The idea that humans are genetically unequal is a deeply disturbing one - honestly I wish it weren't true - but my wishing the world to be a certain way will not make it so.
I prefer the title "genetically different".

Thanks for informative posts though. I will check it out.
 
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The alt right movement is a response to all the SJW propaganda being pushed on the media. I have yet to encounter a person who you could consider extreme alt-right the way I have with SJW's, but if any one would be as so kind to point them out, I'd be to acknowledge them.
 

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The alt right movement is a response to all the SJW propaganda being pushed on the media. I have yet to encounter a person who you could consider extreme alt-right the way I have with SJW's, but if any one would be as so kind to point them out, I'd be to acknowledge them.
I can literally swap around every use of the 'alt-right' for every time you said 'SJW' and still have a completely valid sentence.

Think above having 1 of 2 labels. Political beliefs are complex.
 

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Actual nazis AT TIMES. YOU GUYS as in the Alt-Right. I didn't call you a nazi. Okay, I think my understanding of storm ***s might be wrong. I thought it was a dude who calls everyone a cuck, but apparently to you, it's a nazi. If so, my bad. The first time I did not call you a nazi and that's just your reading comprehension that's to blame. The second time, when I called you a storm f*g, if that means Nazi, again, my bad.

My point was to see which one of the groups was worse and then you came along validating my post by doing exactly what I said makes the alt-right look bad. The point of my thread was to see others' opinions on this. I didn't circle jerk anyone. I took the two other seemingly alt-righters opinions into account as well. And again, I already conceded and said to you SJWs are dangerous and I'm being unfair.

If I'm not an SJW then I'm a refugee who profits from them? What kind of black and white view of the world do you have? I'm sorry to say but the world isn't that simple. I was born in the states, my parents are hard working, law-abiding citizens. We're not some welfare leeches. My god, this is exactly what I was talking about. But I know, all this means to you is that I'm an SJW with your black and white logic. I'm not, I think feminism in the first world is just women trying to feel special that they're fighting for a cause. I think BLM race baits, and I believe a country should do what's in their best interest first, if national security is one of those, fine by me. But I also think people need to leave the ME the f*ck alone.
Fair enough
 
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I prefer the title "genetically different".

Thanks for informative posts though. I will check it out.
The odd thing is that this issue is only explosive when people talk about groups that tend to underperform compared to Europeans (mostly African and Muslim world derived peoples).

When Gregory Cochran et al came out with their paper arguing that the Ashkenazi Jewish advantage in intelligence was not only hereditary but a product of natural selection, media outlets all over the west reported it as if it were just another interesting scientific theory (heck, some even bordered on celebration) - e.g. this nonchalant report by the very leftist economist newspaper:



And Cochran was not attacked by the media/academia for it.

There was a documentary on political correctness in the SJW-land of Norway and in the episode on IQ, though some other IQ researchers were dismissed as extremists, Cochran and his theory were again portrayed nonchalantly:

[video=youtube;7R-hTToDRzs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R-hTToDRzs[/video]
 
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