Black Jesus and Ancient Egypt Denial

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The ancient Egyptians were black. People whitewash our culture and try to portray the Egyptians as white. The ancient egyptians were dark asf and didn't have no fucking blue eye and straight hair mess hollywrong tries to portray


Well Jesus wasn't white clearly in the scriptures. They portray him as white because of white supremacy



It all goes down to white = best which they try to brainwash us since birth
 

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There's no "assuming" here. He existed as a Jew in a Jewish community which wasn't black.

I see of a lot of these comments are just opinions and not based off facts. Smdh Jesus was a Jew from Ethiopia which were black people. You can also say he was a Hebrew from scriptures. If you did any research you will find out that the real Jews are Hebrew, which are also the so called black folk in America and scattered all across the globe. Have you ever even wondered why those people call themselves Jew-ISH. They are fake claiming to be a bloodline that they are not! People do your research before commenting on serious things like this. It also does matter if he was black or white. If it didnt matter, why do the Elite insist on showing you a white Jesus when history clearly proves he wasn't? Also the Bible gives you a clear description of what he looked like.
 

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I see of a lot of these comments are just opinions and not based off facts. Smdh Jesus was a Jew from Ethiopia which were black people. You can also say he was a Hebrew from scriptures. If you did any research you will find out that the real Jews are Hebrew, which are also the so called black folk in America and scattered all across the globe. Have you ever even wondered why those people call themselves Jew-ISH. They are fake claiming to be a bloodline that they are not! People do your research before commenting on serious things like this. It also does matter if he was black or white. If it didnt matter, why do the Elite insist on showing you a white Jesus when history clearly proves he wasn't? Also the Bible gives you a clear description of what he looked like.
Did you just say Jew ISH as an argument? Lmao!

Clearly your research is f*cked.
 

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I think Jesus looked like this
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and ancient egyptians looked like this
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For the last egyptian pic look at the 1980 person if you want to know how I think they looked like. If you mean Sub-Saharan africans when you say "Black" I don't think they looked like that. Because the mummies sure don't look like that when you look at the shape of their faces.
 

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If Jesus existed, he would be a brown skinned Palestinian Jew. Although there's no evidence he existed.
 

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Well, this thread was entertaining. Greek imports (not the classiest of terms) in regards to rulers was not unheard of in Ancient Egypt. Not to mention the class discrepancy in regards to societal tiers. Yes, Ancient Egypt had very clear tiers in regards to the hierarchical social set up.

Jesus would have been light-skinned individual given the fact that where he belonged from. Middle Eastern doesn't equal black. What the heck? I have seen many people with golden hair and coloured eyes in that region. Heck, golden hair and coloured eyes are very common in South Asia amongst (mostly) the pathans. So, the picture depiction being inaccurate those grounds is absurd.

Caliburn got everything covered anyways. Also, it always surprises me that people call the Europeans white. It's a pet-peeve of mine, given that bar the Celtic (black-haired Europeans), their skin tones are pinkish. Koreans and Chinese are the true whites if skin tones are kept in mind. Bizarre.
 
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And you have just proven my point. One more post like this and I will remove you from this section as it's obvious that either you are trolling or you are completely oblivious about what you are saying, which means you will only cause unnecessary arguments. The fact that, like an immature child, you're going on about "triggered triggered" says it all. Your ignorance is nothing more than a potential hazard for meaningless arguments. So either you act like a mature person or I'm going to kick you out as I don't cut corners when it comes to moderating this section.

Judaism is a religion, the Jewish people however are more than just people who have the same faith. Unlike Christianity and Islam, which are religions that always have been open towards new members, it's extremely hard to become a Jew. Jews believe that they are the chosen people by God and as such you can't just become such a chosen person. They have always been proud about their heritage, their culture and their religion. On top of that they were stigmatized and persecuted for millennia. This all resulted in that Jews had distinctive, isolated communities in society that were hard to get in to or out of. In fact the more they were hunted down, the more obstinate they became and the stronger their communities became. A Jew would almost certainly marry a Jew. Calling them a race is a bit of a stretch, but they are very well genetically distinctive. Many Jews have typical physical features that are attributed to their Jewish ancestry. It often happens in movies that a character knows that another character is Jewish just by looking at him once and/or hearing his last name as many Jews are distinctive in both. You can't say the same thing about Muslims or Christians as they are way too diverse for that. In fact that's the primary reason Christianity broke with Judaism as Christians wanted to allow everyone into their faith, something the Jews did not want.

So yeah you are completely wrong. The only thing you are right about, is that it indeed was different 2000 years ago, so I wonder how is it that despite knowing that, you are saying the absurd and false statement that Jesus was black which contradicts what you just said? And how you say that he would have been different from a European despite the reality that Europeans would have also looked differently back then? You are not even making any sense. Not to mention I am taking into consideration how the situation was 2000 years ago, everything I said was true. The Eastern Mediterranean, and even parts of the Middle East, were historically, culturally, genetically and appearance wise at the time of Jesus much more related to the European continent than Central Africa, which is where the people lived who could truly be described as being "black".

What you say doesn't even make sense. Apparently according to you there are only whites and blacks. If you would go from Northern Europe all the way down to the equator, you would go from as pale as snow in Northern Europe to as black as charcoal around the equator. This all has to do with the intensity of the sun, so if you would already start categorizing people based on distinct differences in their skin color, you would end up at least in the double digits, maybe even the triple digits. So if you would actually follow your own messed up reasoning, by all means Jesus was white as he sure resembled someone from Europe more than someone from Central Africa, unless you want to call everyone in Southern Europe black as the further north people went, the lighter their skin became.

How is it possible that you claim you are talking about diversity while you are using the term "black". That on itself invalidates everything you say. I mean look at what you just did. You just said that people were 2000 years ago different, you then ignore that same statement for Europeans and then you post a picture of modern day Egyptians to prove something about Egyptians that lived 5000 years ago. There have been many dynasties in Ancient Egypt and the territories they ruled expanded and shrunk countless of times, so there are huge differences depending on which time, dynasty and place you talk about. However by no means you can describe them as being black on average. The last dynasty was even a Greek one, which really were not black. So you could as easily have given a picture of a bunch of pale Egyptians. You can't even follow your own arguments through, it's almost pathetic that you can't even see your own contradictory statements. You are subjectively deciding who are the original natives and who are not, which on itself is a relative statement because as I said, the further you go into Africa, the darker the skin will become and the territories of Ancient Egypt varied. Jean Grey is absolutely right in saying that you are doing the exact same thing you described in the OP: you vehemently deny things that are painfully obvious.

You have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever about any of the historical matters you talk about and you have even less understanding about the complexities about how history is written and perceived. That became even more obvious about your comment saying that I should not view this from the present...as that's what I have been doing all along, it's you who completely failed at that. Again you say something that's true and then you do exactly the opposite yourself. Everything I said, so far that that is possible, was seen from the correct historical perspective, something you absolutely refuse to do. "Hey, you should not view the past from the present...and here me is holding up a picture of modern day Egyptians to prove something about 5000 years ago"...what?

And I'm not sugarcoating it. If he was not black, he was not black. It's not my fault that apparently you consider everyone that's not as pale as a corps as being black. Btw this has actually already been investigated, so you are denying with non-sensical BS something that has already been researched. Let me give you yet another historical trivia: do you know where exactly several important large migrations entered Europe? Greece, Turkey and the many islands and coastal regions in the Eastern Mediterranean and I'm not talking about some far away migrations from 10 000 BC, I'm talking about migrations that occurred around 1500-1000 BC. How could someone like you who has no knowledge about history whatsoever ever look at historical themes like these with any other perspective then a present day one?


This is the last chance you will get before I will remove you from this section because it is as I predicted. You dropped a controversial statement that is wrong on all fronts which you consequently tried to defend with half-assed arguments that contradict each and every time and this will lead to nothing other than senseless arguments. One of the things I hate the most is when people like you molest and harass history just to cause a stir.



Go get some common sense and a rational mind if you are only going to quote the Bible as almost all of your quotes are irrelevant. Did you ever play that game where you have to whisper a sentence into someone's ear and that person then whispers it in someone else's ear and so on and then when the last person has to say the sentence, it doesn't even remotely resemble the original sentence anymore? Well the exact same thing happened to the Bible, only a thousand times more severe as it was done over a period over 2000 years. So you quoting a sentence about Jesus' looks has almost as much value as someone using a dorito with a face on it to prove how Jesus really looked. Even the church father Augustine said you shouldn't be taking everything that's written in the Bible literally.



I think you quoted the wrong post.

Bro is it really fair that you get to state this long drawn out opinion, but call him ignorant for stating his??
Where are your creditials show me a degree that proves your accreditation and knowledge of this issue.
I feel as if your miss using you authorities here by stating your controversial opinion and indulging in the thread at all.
How can you threaten to remove him from the thread as if your right and he's wrong?
Idk if Christ was black or white or rather his name was even Jesus.
But what I do know is that your in denial and ignored the major points that he stated
He's never argued Christ ethnicity just his portraid skin tone and those skin tones of the ancient Egyptians.
You have "black" Cubans that call and indentify as "black". So yes black is black.
Stay on topic quick tryna make it an issue of racism. You seemed offended

Ps: there may be some typos. I'm using my phone
 
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Why do people deny Jesus Christ being black assuming he was a real person??? And why do people say Ancient Egyptians were not black then use Modern Egypt as proof??

They say the color of Jesus doesn't matter but still protray him as white. Fox news and youtube users.

What do people get out of this? Rewriting history..

Your thoughts....

Some "people" threat the image of Christ as their last hope. And you definitely offended some "people"
 
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Honestly who gives a **** he was gods son so he would have the power to change his skin color only a racist would be doing what your doing

So white people are racist then because they changed the appearance of Jesus to look like what they look like what do you have to say about that... if he is the representation of God and man then why would he look like one race???
 

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So white people are racist then because they changed the appearance of Jesus to look like what they look like what do you have to say about that... if he is the representation of God and man then why would he look like one race???

He is the son of god so skin color changing is just a speck on what his power is so i dont understand why anyone now a days are using the lord as a weapon of racism you people need to get a grip
 

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He is the son of god so skin color changing is just a speck on what his power is so i dont understand why anyone now a days are using the lord as a weapon of racism you people need to get a grip
I've never understood how Christianity and racism mesh together, but they do so often. The two are so contradictory.

Well, this thread was entertaining. Greek imports (not the classiest of terms) in regards to rulers was not unheard of in Ancient Egypt. Not to mention the class discrepancy in regards to societal tiers. Yes, Ancient Egypt had very clear tiers in regards to the hierarchical social set up.

Jesus would have been light-skinned individual given the fact that where he belonged from. Middle Eastern doesn't equal black. What the heck? I have seen many people with golden hair and coloured eyes in that region. Heck, golden hair and coloured eyes are very common in South Asia amongst (mostly) the pathans. So, the picture depiction being inaccurate those grounds is absurd.

Caliburn got everything covered anyways. Also, it always surprises me that people call the Europeans white. It's a pet-peeve of mine, given that bar the Celtic (black-haired Europeans), their skin tones are pinkish. Koreans and Chinese are the true whites if skin tones are kept in mind. Bizarre.
Aye, thanks for the shout out at bold.

Fun fact, East Asians were considered white up until the 14 ish century. Then a few 'white people' suddenly became hysterical and wanted to make sure they were superior.
 
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Yes i totally agree dude Jesus was Black;king Arthur was black even f@#kin Clint Eastwood was black once

These white people changed everything smh
 

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You know it are threads like these that automatically make me wary of certain people and if I see them creating topics of this nature repetitively, I will not hesitate to remove them from this section as either you are attempting to troll or you are clearly not suited to hold discussions like these and that is problematic as you could cause severe arguments for no reason whatsoever.

There might be people who resent the idea that Jesus didn't look exactly like how he is most commonly portrayed. Jesus was a Jew who lived in what is now Israel and Palestine, so most likely his looks wouldn't have been much different than the other people who lived there, meaning he would have had a slightly darker skin than an average European. However that and being black are so far apart it makes me wonder if you even understand what the word "black" means. The Eastern Mediterranean has always had strong connections with the European continent, in particular with Greece, long before Jesus was even born. So in the end it might be uncomfortable for some people to accept that Jesus didn't look exactly as they expected him to be, however he wouldn't have been that drastically different either. He could have possibly blend in in ancient Greece or Southern Italy.

This all however is completely different than a black Jesus as he really was not black and the same thing applies to ancient Egyptians. Modern day Egyptians will not look identical to them, but by no means you could ever describe them as being black.

Lastly rewriting history and what you are talking about are not even remotely the same thing. Apparently you are under the impression that people had cameras 2000 years ago to take pictures and could easily mass spread those pictures and that then someone said "oh, I don't like the way he looks, I'm going to change it". Obviously this was not the case, so when people wanted to create an image of Jesus, they pretty much portrayed him in a way that was the most comfortable and familiar to them. Many traditional representations; like God, saints etc.; even predate Christianity. This by no means is "rewriting history", in fact this does not even have anything to do with writing history or historical research at all. When someone today would make a drawing of a deceased person, however he draws it a bit different because it's going to be used for a commercial, an exposition or something else, is he rewriting history? No. That drawing was made for a specific purpose in mind. It's however possible that that drawing would become so popular that it automatically started to represent that person. That's not rewriting history as it was not made with the intention of "this is how he should look like" and it's the same thing with how Jesus was represented visually. People didn't make representations of Jesus to be historically accurate, they made them because they wanted to be closer to him, so that they could look at him etc.

Seriously.
Egypt was a melting pot, essentially, and there were black pharaohs as Nubia was south of it and once conquered it. Another reason we know they were black or at least a decent amount of them were was the art. A lot of them clearly show Black people. However, it's true that Greece has conquered it and there were white pharaohs as well.
 
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