How is sasuke so strong?

[Holy God]

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Clearly you did not read your own definition. A "modification" refers to a change. A change can be for the better or worse.

@Underlined: Madara obtained healing powers from Senjutsu and not the cells. [

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I already know this. I said Kabuto used Hashirama's modified cells for healing on Sasuke.

@Italic:

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This does not prove a thing. Sasuke still has none of Hashirama's traits.

@Blue:

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That statement is too ambiguous. Madara already knew about the face before being resurrected and that's final. Nothing can trump that evidence.

 

[Edogawa]

Clearly you did not read your own definition. A "modification" refers to a change. A change can be for the better or worse.

It's not my definition. It's an official definition which means denial doesn't work. Modification is an improvement; an improvement is a change for the better. I'll quote what you said:

''The cells were modified to be used for their healing powers.'' - Holy God

The cells modified to for healing purposes is a good thing. See, you worked it out yourself. Good job.

I already know this. I said Kabuto used Hashirama's modified cells for healing on Sasuke.

Hashirama's cells naturally heal regardless of being modified or not. And you need to prove that Kabuto modified them.

This does not prove a thing. Sasuke still has none of Hashirama's traits.

Sasuke's left arm is constructed from Hashirama's genetic materials, which means Sasuke carries Hashirama's genetics. Why is this hard to understand?

That statement is too ambiguous. Madara already knew about the face before being resurrected and that's final. Nothing can trump that evidence.

It's not open to any interpretation. Reading comprehension is what you need.

-Hashirama sees his face on Madara's chest...
-Suggests Madara has been doing some work...
-Madara contradicts his suggestion and says it's the work of Obito's subordinate, who is Kabuto.

 

[Holy God]

It's not my definition. It's an official definition which means denial doesn't work. Modification is an improvement; an improvement is a change for the better. I'll quote what you said:

''The cells were modified to be used for their healing powers.'' - Holy God

The cells modified to for healing purposes is a good thing. See, you worked it out yourself. Good job.

I think we've done this before, but you cannot beat me in definitions. I'll invite you once more to read your own definition, because it seems you have completely missed it once again. It literally says "a change made", which can be for the better or worse as I've already stated. You're using a synonym, which has absolutely zero regard here.

Hashirama's cells naturally heal regardless of being modified or not. And you need to prove that Kabuto modified them.

And yet you just said the healing came from Sage Mode. Which is it?

Sasuke's left arm is constructed from Hashirama's genetic materials, which means Sasuke carries Hashirama's genetics. Why is this hard to understand?

I don't know if you've seen Sasuke, but he doesn't have a left hand.

It's not open to any interpretation. Reading comprehension is what you need.

-Hashirama sees his face on Madara's chest...
-Suggests Madara has been doing some work...
-Madara contradicts his suggestion and says it's the work of Obito's subordinate, who is Kabuto.

Nope, too ambiguous to understand what they are truly talking about. Kabuto only combined the later part of his life with his younger self. On the other hand, Madara already knew about the face before being resurrected, which completely ruins any chance you have at arguing against it.

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[Edogawa]

I think we've done this before, but you cannot beat me in definitions. I'll invite you once more to read your own definition, because it seems you have completely missed it once again. It literally says "a change made", which can be for the better or worse as I've already stated. You're using a synonym, which has absolutely zero regard here.

Modification definition:
''a change made.
plural noun: modifications
"a number of modifications are being carried out to the engines"
synonyms: alteration, adjustment, change, adaptation, improvement,''

Improvement definition:
''an example of improving or being improved.
"an improvement in East–West relations"
synonyms: advance, development, upgrade, change for the better, refinement, enhancement, furtherance, advancement, forwarding''

Now don't tell me you can't define basic words?

And yet you just said the healing came from Sage Mode. Which is it?

You said this:

''Madara used Hashirama's original cells and Sasuke used modified cells. It's the exact reason why one has instant regeneration, Wood Style, and Hashirama's face and the other doesn't.'' - Holy God

Madara gained instant regeneration after taking Senjutsu directly from Hashirama. Hashirama's cells naturally heal. Heal and instant regeneration aren't the same thing.

Keep a track of what you say because an opponent can easily use your contradictions against you.

I don't know if you've seen Sasuke, but he doesn't have a left hand.

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Nope, too ambiguous to understand what they are truly talking about. Kabuto only combined the later part of his life with his younger self. On the other hand, Madara already knew about the face before being resurrected, which completely ruins any chance you have at arguing against it.

Jesus...Ok, let me try another approach with images, because you have difficulty with words. This is the last time I'm doing this for you.

Madara's wound doesn't show Hashirama's face after his fight:

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Madara asks Kabuto what he did to his body after he sees Hashirama's face on his wound:

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In conjunction with he said that Kabuto did this after contradicting Hashirama's suggestion, you can now stop your little ambiguous. There is no open interpretation for a fact. End of discussion.

 

[Holy God]

Modification definition:
''a change made.
plural noun: modifications
"a number of modifications are being carried out to the engines"
synonyms: alteration, adjustment, change, adaptation, improvement,''

Improvement definition:
''an example of improving or being improved.
"an improvement in East–West relations"
synonyms: advance, development, upgrade, change for the better, refinement, enhancement, furtherance, advancement, forwarding''

Now don't tell me you can't define basic words?

All irrelevant buddy. You're using the definition of "improvement", not "modification". A synonym is not a definition.

You said this:

''Madara used Hashirama's original cells and Sasuke used modified cells. It's the exact reason why one has instant regeneration, Wood Style, and Hashirama's face and the other doesn't.'' - Holy God

Madara gained instant regeneration after taking Senjutsu directly from Hashirama. Hashirama's cells naturally heal. Heal and instant regeneration aren't the same thing.

I will also quote myself. "I already know this."

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Thus he carries none of Hashirama's attributes.

Jesus...Ok, let me try another approach with images, because you have difficulty with words. This is the last time I'm doing this for you.

Madara's wound doesn't show Hashirama's face after his fight:

I see that you're assuming Madara already used Hashirama's cells at that point and that they even had their effect yet.

Madara asks Kabuto what he did to his body after he sees Hashirama's face on his wound:

In conjunction with he said that Kabuto did this after contradicting Hashirama's suggestion, you can now stop your little ambiguous. There is no open interpretation for a fact. End of discussion.

When did Madara ever look at his chest to determine whether or not Hashirama's face was there?

 

[Honord Sage]

Post a screenshot or something for proof.

To lazy to watch the movie? well then you are going to have to wait till Boruto Manga get to that part sine the Boruto Manga is using the movie as the story right now.

 

[Honord Sage]

You telling me they left Naruto stranded in Momo dimension for 3 days.

Sasuke had to train and equip Boruto for the mission.

 

[NextGenNinja]

To lazy to watch the movie? well then you are going to have to wait till Boruto Manga get to that part sine the Boruto Manga is using the movie as the story right now.

I think you're confusing the last with the boruto movie, man. In the last it was said naruto was knocked out for three days.

 

[Honord Sage]

I think you're confusing the last with the boruto movie, man. In the last it was said naruto was knocked out for three days.

No,Naruto apologies to theBad men because its ben 3 days of drawing Kurama chakra and their no ware near drawing Naruto as reference the Akauski when they lost people would take them hours to day to drain a Tailed Beast from its Host.

 

[NextGenNinja]

No,Naruto apologies to theBad men because its ben 3 days of drawing Kurama chakra and their no ware near drawing Naruto as reference the Akauski when they lost people would take them hours to day to drain a Tailed Beast from its Host.

I rewatched that scene and there's no mention of it being three days, all momoshiki said was it's taking "too long".

 

[Honord Sage]

I rewatched that scene and there's no mention of it being three days, all momoshiki said was it's taking "too long".

Naruto's response to that was sorry its taken 3 days. We will have hard copy in Boruto Manga their right now in the chuning exam the beginning. Sines the guys writhing and drawing it right out of the movie.

 

[NextGenNinja]

Naruto's response to that was sorry its taken 3 days. We will have hard copy in Boruto Manga their right now in the chuning exam the beginning. Sines the guys writhing and drawing it right out of the movie.

Alright, see you until then.

 

[SAmIDeXtEr]

Sasuke's been executing several reps of pull ups at my backyard

 

[shelke]

Sasuke's strength has always been amazing:

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Not to mention he was also faster than Naruto in the movie. Not really a surprise. The guy is a prodigy.

 

[DIzmiz01]

Sasuke's strength has always been amazing:

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Not to mention he was also faster than Naruto in the movie. Not really a surprise. The guy is a prodigy.

Wasn't "faster" lol

 

[shelke]

Wasn't "faster" lol

He was, actually. But sure, what is going to be your ready-made excuse? He wasn't moving fast enough? He wasn't going full speed? He wasn't using this or that? He was tired? They were doing a co-ordinated attack (my favourite)? There you go. I got you covered.

 

[DIzmiz01]

He was, actually. But sure, what is going to be your ready-made excuse? He wasn't moving fast enough? He wasn't going full speed? He wasn't using this or that? He was tired? They were doing a co-ordinated attack (my favourite)? There you go. I got you covered.

No I'm just telling you one character attacking first doesn't make them faster especially in a movie setting lol and when he wasn't as fast as the raikage when naruto was faster....Im guessing you gap sasuke if you were so ready to defend but failed. Im not gunna respond to your next response I've learned by now everyone has an opinion there's no reason to debate this further you lost


And about the strength thing, looking at Danzo's kick against Karin looked as fast as sasuke's vs Momo so maybe Danzo Kicks as hard as sasuke and RSM Naruto?! or maybe animators show things at speed to make them look cool....

 

[shelke]

No I'm just telling you one character attacking first doesn't make them faster especially in a movie setting lol and when he wasn't as fast as the raikage when naruto was faster....Im guessing you gap sasuke if you were so ready to defend but failed. Im not gunna respond to your next response I've learned by now everyone has an opinion there's no reason to debate this further you lost

And about the strength thing, looking at Danzo's kick against Karin looked as fast as sasuke's vs Momo so maybe Danzo Kicks as hard as sasuke and RSM Naruto?! or maybe animators show things at speed to make them look cool....

Nope, he literally managed to outspeed him when both of them were running side by side. No amount of excuses will change that. Raikage? He was faster than Raikage without the Bijuu augmentation to his Raiton Cloak. He (KCM Naruto) was? Oh, you mean that lucky slip when he got his face bashed in by ... everybody? And repeatedly at that, despite Bee, Gai and Kakashi stepping in repeatedly to pull him out of hairy situations? Despite the aid of clones as well? Sure.

Nice excuses, man.

 

[TheSages456]

Where was it shown or stated that Sasuke & Naruto were equals in every physical department? They were coordinating their attacks. Sasuke is inferior to cloaked Naruto in all stats bar visual perception.

Sasuke's feats in the movie aren't above anything seen in the series. Animated by the same studio, the majority of relevant characters would display comparable feats.

The same studio animated Deva Path punching the ground and forming an ocean, which eclipses any strength feat shown by Naruto & Sasuke in that movie, yet Deva Path is weaker than Sage mode Naruto when it comes to physical strength.

Sasuke and Kinshiki's fight in the Boruto movie portrayed them with lightning, but this effect is completely absent in the Boruto manga.
Did the animators take artistic liberties in the movies to spice up the fights? Yes.

Does that necessarily make the feats invalid? No

 

[deadtor93]

I will side with option 4