Wankwars aside- how exactly are Naru/Sasu stronger than Maddy?

[1000 Chirping Birds]

Rikudou Madara. Tell me at what point in the manga (using panels preferably rather than thoughtless wank) that Naruto and Sasuke became stronger than him.

Bc this forum just seemed to kinda accept that although it took both of them and backup to stand up to Rikudou Madara. Now suddenly Naruto and Sasuke are out of their prime and can still defeat him 1V1 all of a sudden??

Haven't seen Madara or Kaguya for that matter at the top of a Top 10 list for a while. If only Naruto or only Sasuke were needed then the Madara arc would've lasted 2 chapters. Yes I know both Sasuke and Naruto got nice hits in seperately but they weren't anything in the long run and I don't see Naruto or Sasuke on their own surviving what Madara survived and beat. (8 Gates Guy, 4 Kage, rest of the alliance)

A weakened Madara still put up a good fight against the both of them combined.

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[Natsu Shazneel]

Hinata >>>>>>>>>> Madara

 

[SenseiSama]

They're not stronger than his full power but each half of his power is weaker than Naruto and Sasuke's. Sasuke has the superior eye power while Naruto has the superior use of Senjutsu. Naruto and Sasuke's powers combined is a level above JJ Madara.

 

[Jiren]

Madara too OP

 

[InfiniteMugen]

I don't think they where stronger individually. And we never really got to see mads go all out before kaguya came

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

They're not stronger than his full power but each half of his power is weaker than Naruto and Sasuke's. Sasuke has the superior eye power while Naruto has the superior use of Senjutsu. Naruto and Sasuke's powers combined is a level above JJ Madara.

If Sasuke has superior eye power than why did he produce a daughter who wears glasses?

 

[SenseiSama]

If Sasuke has superior eye power than why did he produce a daughter who wears glasses?

Well if you read the manga you would know the only time a Sharingan user has had bad eyesight is when they awaken MS which means Sarada's chakra is already as strong as an MS user

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[Jiren]

If Sasuke has superior eye power than why did he produce a daughter who wears glasses?

He produced daughter who is undefeated

 

[God Of NarutoBase]

They're not stronger than his full power but each half of his power is weaker than Naruto and Sasuke's. Sasuke has the superior eye power while Naruto has the superior use of Senjutsu. Naruto and Sasuke's powers combined is a level above JJ Madara.

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[Your Creepy Stalker]

It was the way that he never managed to lay a finger on them after they got their hagoromo powerup.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

They always get put above Madara in lists and threads. I've done it too but i'm undecided

 

[NextGenNinja]

Don't think they could beat madara 1v1 but as a team, yeah possibly.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Also 'wankwars' is a great word and I want to steal it immediately.

 

[Jiren]

Also 'wankwars' is a great word and I want to steal it immediately.

No you don't deserve to l use it since you participate in them frequently kun:

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

No you don't deserve to l use it since you participate in them frequently kun:

..? Explain.

Wank insinuates I treat characters as anything more than plot devices in a story. I don't care about Naruto/Sasuke and especially don't value my favourites for their power :')

 

[Ambivalence]

Now suddenly Naruto and Sasuke are out of their prime...

Adult Naruto and Sasuke is their prime, not their teen versions.

A weakened Madara still put up a good fight against the both of them combined.

In which manga? Because Madara was getting tossed around easily, and after his only Limbo clone got sealed, another joint attack from Naruto and Sasuke would've been gg. That's why he ran away to get his second Rinnegan.

Naruto or Sasuke can rape 1R JJ Madara, but definitely lose to DR JJ Madara, and get raped by 3-eyed Madara.

 

[SenseiSama]

The op said no wanking. Learn to Obey instructions

In what way is it wanking ? Sasuke has Hagoromo's Rinnegan power in addition to EMS power therefore he has the superior eyes. Can Madara even travel to Kaguya's dimensions ? No he can't.

And Naruto absorbed more energy than Madara's body can handle therefore his use of Senjusu is superior. Naruto's lava RS alone made Madara shit his pants and absorb the Shinju in order to stand a chance of survival.

 

[Tyris]

They die as shown and mads was toying with both.. after tree eating lol b4 tht I'l

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[God Of NarutoBase]

In what way is it wanking ? Sasuke has Hagoromo's Rinnegan power in addition to EMS power therefore he has the superior eyes. Can Madara even travel to Kaguya's dimensions ? No he can't.

How does that make him superior?this is pure character fapping. Sasuke's rinnegan power is nowhere near hagoromo's level of power while madara rinnegan equals hagoromo's in power. How can you say madara can't travel to dimensions when he had kaguya's dojutsu?TF.

And Naruto absorbed more energy than Madara's body can handle therefore his use of Senjusu is superior. Naruto's lava RS alone made Madara shit his pants and absorb the Shinju in order to stand a chance of survival.

First of all,it was kurama that absorbed the NE and what proof do you have that madara body can't handle that amount of NE,when his body was capable of containing kaguya high level chakra quantity and how even does being able to handle much NE make naruto rikudou senjutsu stronger?. See,just more senseless wanking.

 

[SenseiSama]

How does that make him superior?this is pure character fapping. Sasuke's rinnegan power is nowhere near hagoromo's level of power while madara rinnegan equals hagoromo's in power. How can you say madara can't travel to dimensions when he had kaguya's dojutsu?TF.

I'm not talking about Kauya's dojutsu because apart from IT Madara never had the ability to use Kaguya's power which is why she was able to take over his body.

I'm referring to his Rinnegan, Madara's eyes are nowhere near Hagoromo's level, the Sage said he was trying to get close to his power not surpass it.

Without the Juubi Madara's eyes are inferior, if both of them are JuubiJins Sasuke's eyes are superior. Why ? Because Sasuke has Hagoromo's eye power and Indra's eye power while Madara only has Rinnegan.

Madara's Rinnegan = Indra + Ashura

Sasuke's Rinnegan = Indra + Hagoromo

First of all,it was kurama that absorbed the NE and what proof do you have that madara body can't handle that amount of NE,when his body was capable of containing kaguya high level chakra quantity and how even does being able to handle much NE make naruto rikudou senjutsu stronger?. See,just more senseless wanking.

So what if it was Kurama who gathered the NE ? He sent it to Naruto's body therefore Naruto was the one controlling it.


This is what it took for Madara to explode.

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This is what Naruto controlled

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See the difference ? The amount of energy Kurama gathered is comparable to the amount of energy Kaguya absorbs which Madara's body is unable to handle.

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