[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 834 Discussion and 835 Predictions

[chopstickchakra]

Wait. That is Lola, right?

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Why is no one talking about this....? It sounds important...

I made a thread on it already. It's not Lola though I thought it was back when she came in a few chapters back. They're either twins or they just happen to look eerily similar. But it says right there her name is Chiffon not Lola. Lola must be a different daughter.

 

[arv993]

In this chapter Doflamingo was made to look almost superior to Big Mom, Caesar felt under Joker he was untouchable, even safe from Big Mom.

Whereas Oda uses everything in the book to make Kaidou look like a God, just the mention of his name has Doflamingo worried.

Either way it keeps adding up her overall character portrayal, chapter by chapter.

Doffy has kaido to back him up. If big mom tries to do anything to Caesar then there's Doffy who's no joke and kaido who he's a partner with.no one starts a war over Caesar. Ur interpretation seems pretty off. Big mom has hype but surely not on the level of kaido.

 

[Punk Hazard]

In this chapter Doflamingo was made to look almost superior to Big Mom, Caesar felt under Joker he was untouchable, even safe from Big Mom.

Whereas Oda uses everything in the book to make Kaidou look like a God, just the mention of his name has Doflamingo worried.

Either way it keeps adding up her overall character portrayal, chapter by chapter.

I mean, not really. Caesar was safe because Yonko avoid fighting with each other for whatever reason. That's why it was so shocking that Shanks met up with WB and confronted Kaido. Caesar simply knew that Big Mom wouldn't risk a fight with another Yonko over someone as small as him because that's just how Yonko operate.

 

[Caliburn]

This was the type of chapter that's all over the place, but doesn't really give much progression overall to the story. Still I like chapters like these as we get bits and pieces of information about a variety of characters.

So Jinbei's punishment is the cheerleader-punishment; being slandered to the point you become a social pariah? Or was he indeed forced to come back on his word because his punishment was to severe? But if that's the case why still bother slandering him?

And I thought there was something amiss when I saw Capone was with Pekoms as if he just wanted to punish him, there really was no need to be secretive about it. What I don't get though is why he even is trying to kill Pekoms in the first place, what's the point of doing that? Either way it's clear he's planning something against Big Mum. And seriously BM really doesn't seem to be very considerate about who she marries to whom as several of her daughters have no quarrel whatsoever in going against her and support their husbands.

Putting the infantile smoking habit aside, that mustache is grossing me out >.>

I've been waiting for a while now how Boa would react on Luffy's new wanted poster

 

[A v i]

Putting the infantile smoking habit aside

That was a pacifier, Wasn't it? It does resemble a stogie though.

 

[Hexuze]

Yeah, that's not Lola. As if it wasn't obvious by the name but they look very similar, only difference is their hair length & Chiffon seems to have no missing teeth. Decent chapter though.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Doffy has kaido to back him up. If big mom tries to do anything to Caesar then there's Doffy who's no joke and kaido who he's a partner with.no one starts a war over Caesar. Ur interpretation seems pretty off. Big mom has hype but surely not on the level of kaido.

I mean, not really. Caesar was safe because Yonko avoid fighting with each other for whatever reason. That's why it was so shocking that Shanks met up with WB and confronted Kaido. Caesar simply knew that Big Mom wouldn't risk a fight with another Yonko over someone as small as him because that's just how Yonko operate.

2^ Was it said anywhere that the others knew Kaido was working with Joker or that Joker was Doffy? You guys say she wouldn't attack Caesar because of Kaidou but their connection was so round about why do you think she was even aware Kaidou was working with Doffy/Caesar on Smile at the same time she was working with Caesar on gigantification drugs? It was never expressed to be common knowledge that Doffy as Joker was working with Caesar to provide tools for Kaidou as far as I remember.

@ Riker, it's still too early to say one way or the other since the only Yonkou we've really seen in action is Teach but why do you think she isn't the weakest? I know you like her power and I agree it is a neat power but we still don't know the extent of it, if you have to be afraid of her it'll be less meaningful in higher up fights. We can say clearly Kaidou is above her right? So my question to you is do you think her hype and current portrayal put her above Teach and Shanks and why? Personally, and I'm sure this is no surprise since we've had discussions lately involving Shanks where you think I overestimate him, I feel the hype around Shanks is higher than the hype of Mom and I think the portrayal of Teach has been above Mom as well. I've noticed Shanks' hype seems to be dropping a bit as we see more and more strong characters appear with no sign of him in sight but the fact he's yet to appear in the midst of strong characters should be a sign he's being delayed for a wave higher tier of opponents.

This was the type of chapter that's all over the place, but doesn't really give much progression overall to the story. Still I like chapters like these as we get bits and pieces of information about a variety of characters.

So Jinbei's punishment is the cheerleader-punishment; being slandered to the point you become a social pariah? Or was he indeed forced to come back on his word because his punishment was to severe? But if that's the case why still bother slandering him?

And I thought there was something amiss when I saw Capone was with Pekoms as if he just wanted to punish him, there really was no need to be secretive about it. What I don't get though is why he even is trying to kill Pekoms in the first place, what's the point of doing that? Either way it's clear he's planning something against Big Mum. And seriously BM really doesn't seem to be very considerate about who she marries to whom as several of her daughters have no quarrel whatsoever in going against her and support their husbands.

Putting the infantile smoking habit aside, that mustache is grossing me out >.>

I've been waiting for a while now how Boa would react on Luffy's new wanted poster

Maybe she killed/punished him then published the paper as a disclaimer to future actions and as a smear to his name

 

[ToshiZO]

Doffy has kaido to back him up. If big mom tries to do anything to Caesar then there's Doffy who's no joke and kaido who he's a partner with.no one starts a war over Caesar. Ur interpretation seems pretty off. Big mom has hype but surely not on the level of kaido.

I mean, not really. Caesar was safe because Yonko avoid fighting with each other for whatever reason. That's why it was so shocking that Shanks met up with WB and confronted Kaido. Caesar simply knew that Big Mom wouldn't risk a fight with another Yonko over someone as small as him because that's just how Yonko operate.

What chopstick said. How are you so sure she knew about Kaido's smiles being in that factory, when she is too stupid to even realize Caesar is using her money? She seemed completely out of the loop.

Either way she is clearly not on the other 3's level of portrayal, she's easily distinguished for me until further notice

 

[loj]

2^ Was it said anywhere that the others knew Kaido was working with Joker or that Joker was Doffy? You guys say she wouldn't attack Caesar because of Kaidou but their connection was so round about why do you think she was even aware Kaidou was working with Doffy/Caesar on Smile at the same time she was working with Caesar on gigantification drugs? It was never expressed to be common knowledge that Doffy as Joker was working with Caesar to provide tools for Kaidou as far as I remember.

@ Riker, it's still too early to say one way or the other since the only Yonkou we've really seen in action is Teach but why do you think she isn't the weakest? I know you like her power and I agree it is a neat power but we still don't know the extent of it, if you have to be afraid of her it'll be less meaningful in higher up fights. We can say clearly Kaidou is above her right? So my question to you is do you think her hype and current portrayal put her above Teach and Shanks and why? Personally, and I'm sure this is no surprise since we've had discussions lately involving Shanks where you think I overestimate him, I feel the hype around Shanks is higher than the hype of Mom and I think the portrayal of Teach has been above Mom as well. I've noticed Shanks' hype seems to be dropping a bit as we see more and more strong characters appear with no sign of him in sight but the fact he's yet to appear in the midst of strong characters should be a sign he's being delayed for a wave higher tier of opponents.



Maybe she killed/punished him then published the paper as a disclaimer to future actions and as a smear to his name

killing Jinbei off panel would be terrible.

 

[A v i]

What chopstick said. How are you so sure she knew about Kaido's smiles being in that factory, when she is too stupid to even realize Caesar is using her money? She seemed completely out of the loop.

Either way she is clearly not on the other 3's level of portrayal, she's easily distinguished for me until further notice

Whether or not she knows about his connection with Joker/Kaido is irrelevant as she hasn't even realized that she's being deceived. Caesar feels safe by being under Joker's wing because he knows about his connection with Kaido. I agree with your point though, She doesn't seem as intimidating and powerful as the rest of the Yonko. I can't put it in words, But I certainly am not getting Yonko-like vibe from her presence.

 

[chopstickchakra]

killing Jinbei off panel would be terrible.

Well if he is dead, though he's likely not, we wouldn't really need to see it happen since we know the situation that led up to it so it's not like we'd be missing a whole lot by not seeing that moment.

 

[arv993]

What chopstick said. How are you so sure she knew about Kaido's smiles being in that factory, when she is too stupid to even realize Caesar is using her money? She seemed completely out of the loop.

Either way she is clearly not on the other 3's level of portrayal, she's easily distinguished for me until further notice

It's not what she knows but what Caesar knows. He thinks since he has Doffy and kaido he can use big mom for money and when she asks for results he would just ask Doffy who is using Caesar for kaido to back him up. That was his plan. It's pretty simple logic. He pretty much points it out this chapter. She is on a high hype level in terms of her being able to summon anyone and have high alliances.

 

[ToshiZO]

It's not what she knows but what Caesar knows. He thinks since he has Doffy and kaido he can use big mom for money and when she asks for results he would just ask Doffy who is using Caesar for kaido to back him up. That was his plan. It's pretty simple logic. He pretty much points it out this chapter. She is on a high hype level in terms of her being able to summon anyone and have high alliances.

She is definitely not on a high hype level. Maybe for an average pirate yeah...but for Yonkou standard her hype is below average at best.

 

[arv993]

She is definitely not on a high hype level. Maybe for an average pirate yeah...but for Yonkou standard her hype is below average at best.

High relative to most characters and she's still being built up. She's not portrayed at doffys level like u said. She seems like at least admiral level but time will tell.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

lol I loved Caesar's making of excuses. He wasn't doing anything in favor for Big-Mom. The hilarious part is that she had got a copy of everything of Punk-Hazard and rebuilt the facility with iron.

 

[Punk Hazard]

2^ Was it said anywhere that the others knew Kaido was working with Joker or that Joker was Doffy? You guys say she wouldn't attack Caesar because of Kaidou but their connection was so round about why do you think she was even aware Kaidou was working with Doffy/Caesar on Smile at the same time she was working with Caesar on gigantification drugs? It was never expressed to be common knowledge that Doffy as Joker was working with Caesar to provide tools for Kaidou as far as I remember.

@ Riker, it's still too early to say one way or the other since the only Yonkou we've really seen in action is Teach but why do you think she isn't the weakest? I know you like her power and I agree it is a neat power but we still don't know the extent of it, if you have to be afraid of her it'll be less meaningful in higher up fights. We can say clearly Kaidou is above her right? So my question to you is do you think her hype and current portrayal put her above Teach and Shanks and why? Personally, and I'm sure this is no surprise since we've had discussions lately involving Shanks where you think I overestimate him, I feel the hype around Shanks is higher than the hype of Mom and I think the portrayal of Teach has been above Mom as well. I've noticed Shanks' hype seems to be dropping a bit as we see more and more strong characters appear with no sign of him in sight but the fact he's yet to appear in the midst of strong characters should be a sign he's being delayed for a wave higher tier of opponents.



Maybe she killed/punished him then published the paper as a disclaimer to future actions and as a smear to his name

I never said I didn't think she was the weakest, I just think all this "Big Mom is soooo weak for a Yonko" swill is laughably premature

 

[Bogard]

I mean, not really. Caesar was safe because Yonko avoid fighting with each other for whatever reason. That's why it was so shocking that Shanks met up with WB and confronted Kaido. Caesar simply knew that Big Mom wouldn't risk a fight with another Yonko over someone as small as him because that's just how Yonko operate.

Big Mom declared giantification as her dream. Caesar definitely wasn't "minor" in that goal.
Kaido wouldn't care about fighting another yonkos if it's an obstacle to his goal
Whatever the case, it still puts her hype below the other yonkos thus far

 

[bajram]

The whole Sanji cuffed story seems bullshit its probably the only thing that is leaving a bitter taste in such a great set up for an arc.

Otherwise great chap, Bege made up this chapter for me.

 

[Bogard]

The whole Sanji cuffed story seems bullshit its probably the only thing that is leaving a bitter taste in such a great set up for an arc.

Otherwise great chap, Bege made up this chapter for me.

Bege acting like the true gangsta infront of his son was awesome indeed. Poor Pekoms though. He is treated like trash ever since Zou. I'm not sure why Oda is doing that. I wonder about the structure of Big Mom's crew though. Normally someone like Pekoms should be a commander even if a lower one, but he never really got that type of presentation(he was presented as a fighter). Same goes for Randolph(and the other ones were initially presented at the same time as him) and Bobbins has yet to have an intro box. It seems that she doesn't have the standard commanders structures yonko seem to possess and there is also the ministers that need to be taken into consideration with the eldest son of this chapter who is probably high in rank too

 

[Punk Hazard]

The whole Sanji cuffed story seems bullshit its probably the only thing that is leaving a bitter taste in such a great set up for an arc.

Otherwise great chap, Bege made up this chapter for me.

You mean the handcuffs? Considering even the world's strongest man could get pierced by ordinary bullets, I don't see why so many people are *****ing over this. Like, sure, logically Sanji should just Haki up and survive, but why are people acting like this is the first time Oda has done shit like this?